TUV public meeting in East Belfast tomorrow night…

Got this notice a few days ago from David Vance who is on the panel of a TUV public meeting in Albertbridge Road Orange Hall tomorrow night (29th January)… Speakers will include the Party President, William Ross, Party Leader Jim Allister and political commentator David Vance. Don’t know about Willie Ross, but Allister and David will no doubt put on good show… Could be good steam.. I am presuming all are welcome..

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  • Drumlins Rock

    if nothing else comes out between now and may harry, its still his to lose though, I dont think the TUV will make that big an impact unless Jimbo takes NA. if my Vance stands in EB what would be a reasoanlbe vote for him do you think?

  • scarecrow

    All decent unionists are welcome in TUV.

    Thats like all decent people vote DUP, bit of a laff after recent events?

    Love your diversity btw.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    David Vance (hello sir) wont be “in it to win it”. When it is all over he will quite properly look at his vote and say does this represent a quota for Stormont.
    So the target is around 4,500 votes anda look to see how Dawn Purvis has done.
    After the 18 seats have been decided, TUV will sit down and calculate the number of seats they will pick up in the Stormont or even super Council elections.
    People like David Vance, one of the nearly men in local politics will increase his profile considerably. No doubt we will see him on the TUV Election broadcast and on TV news etc.

    So there is no reasonable expectation of winning East Belfast (we can take Mr Vances confidence as the usual confidence in these situations).

    The real target is further down the line. Mr Vance will I suspect get a little more than his target and will certainly pick up a seat in Stormont elections.
    I fully expect him to be David vance MLA and certainly if I lived in East Belfast would give him a high preference as I will be doing same for his party colleague in my constituency.

  • Comrade Stalin

    All decent unionists are welcome in TUV.

    Along with indecent ones who raise petitions for the release of loyalist paramilitaries.

  • Harry J

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    All decent unionists are welcome in TUV.

    Along with indecent ones who raise petitions for the release of loyalist paramilitaries.
    Posted by Comrade Stalin on Jan 30, 2010 @ 05:09 PM

    David did you sign the TUV petition to release this criminal?

  • riverlagan

    Harry Toan, TUV Belfast Chairman, and former Councillor for Mountpotinger, will not take kindly to David Vance nudging his way into East Belfast.

    He must have thought after getting rid of Charlie Tosh(who was his only serious competition in regards to being nominated as a cadidate for any future election(s)) that he would be the nomination for Westminster.

    I bet he’s not happy 🙂

  • Harry J

    I appreciate your grasp of reality is not that strong otherwise how to explain your nonsense about a TUV petition to release a criminal. There is no such petition but keep repeating it, so long as you believe it that’s fine. But since you mention it, how about the pro-Agreement parties petition to release hundreds of convicted murderers, to install IRA godfathers in government and debase the rule of law?

    Fitzjameshorse

    Thank you for the kind words.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Mr Vance,
    I thought it was a reasonable assessment. And of course youre right to point up that declared members of the Irish Republican Army are in government and no coincidence that the two actually IN the Office of the First/Deputy Minister have the history they have.

    As to the point on Harry Toan, I did not actually know he was still involved at this level. I am not a great believer in Toans version of street politics/street theatre and that would rebound on him.
    I think this IS the dilemna of the TUV.
    If Simpson, Moutray or Wells (as rumoured) had also jumped ship, the TUV would be in a much better position than just being seen as Sunny Jims party.
    The Election in May will increase the profile of a few….but will shine an unwelcome light on dinosaurs like Toan…..and (say it aint so) Willie Ross.

  • Fitzjameshorse

    In politics, as in everyday life, it’s good to have a wide variety of contribution and TUV have some very experienced people as well as some young and energetic members. I think everyone has a part to play.

    Not sure about Mr Simpson or Mr Moutray- they have sat in there long enough and swallowed their principles but if they have a Damascene conversion, our door is open to all!

  • Harry J

    how about the pro-Agreement parties petition to release hundreds of convicted murderers, to install IRA godfathers in government and debase the rule of law?..

    david wasnt that supported by a referendum?

    David, did you sign the TUV petition to release a loyalist killer or not?

  • Poor Harry – just keep saying it, it will exist if you repeat it enough, honest. No more debate with you, way too dull.

  • Drumlins Rock

    David, how many candidates do yous intend to stand?
    guessing at Jim in NA
    Mel Lucas SA?
    Keith Harbinson LV?
    D Calvert UB?
    W Ross in EL?
    Millar in MU?
    Turgon in F&ST;!
    Wille Fraser N&A ?
    Yourself in EB?

    and the rest… have forgot whos about

  • riverlagan

    David,

    Glad you have the right attitude towards having young members play a part within the party. Sadly, people like Mr.Toan want the spotlight all too themselves.

  • Drumlins

    Still being decided but we understand the importance of providing a voice to the disenfranchised.

    riverlagan

    One of the things that impresses me most about TUV is the wide age range. I guess all parties need the experience of the more mature and the energy of the young. I think it’s great younger people do engage and would do all I can to encourage it. It’s so easy for younger people to switch off, I understand that. But it’s reassuring to me to see so many in TUV. I think I mentioned this back when I first attended a TUV conference, it was noticable to me.

    But we shouldn’t dismiss the more experienced people. I know we have supporters across the seven ages of man – and longer! – and I appreciate them all. Their presence in TUV is down to Jim Allister and his rock solid brand of unionism.

  • Harry J

    So david, you dont deny signing the petition then

  • LOL – poor Harry. Keep wishing and the “TUV petition” you want to exist will exist. Go on, click your heels, maybe you’ll be in Kansas.

  • Harry J

    Their presence in TUV is down to Jim Allister and his rock solid brand of unionism. ……….

    what that before or after Jim supported his 2004 euro manifesto when he supported mandatory coaltion

    …”here are three potential forms of
    administration which could be formed:
    – a Voluntary Coalitionwhich can
    command cross community support,
    – a mandatory coalitioninvolving all
    the major parties, or
    – a corporate assemblyin which
    the Assembly as a whole would take
    executive decision”

    or was that before or after the TUV refused to take any action over its members calling for the release of a loyalist terrorist.

    Or maybe that was before Jim allister refused to reveal how muc he paid for each return flight to the Euro Parliament during his 5 years, as he was paid £1000 for each trip.

    what happened to the rest of the public money?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    I think the list of possible candidates for TUV shows up the discepancy between able candidate and “loony tune”. A bigger pool of candidates is essential and while I understand that david Vance is loyal and diplomatic, he is I am sure scratching his head in disbelief at some of the names. He will of course deny it. I understand that.
    One name on that list attended a public meeting on imposed flouride in the water supply. A chemist outlined th dangers. Many resonable people made reasonable points. Even the “Green” type person (it was probably pre Green Party) sounded surprisingly sane.
    Then a man on this list stood up and in all seriousness laimed that it was really a NIO campaign to import BALLYGOWAN WATER. Jaws dropped all round the room.
    No names. No pack drill.

  • riverlagan

    I am sure you can handle yourself, David, but be weary of Harry Toan. He’s a crafty so-and-so. LOL

  • Harry J

    so david , no reply from you yet…
    you said” Jim Allister and his rock solid brand of unionism.”

    what that before or after Jim supported his 2004 euro manifesto when he supported mandatory coaltion

    …“here are three potential forms of
    administration which could be formed:
    – a Voluntary Coalitionwhich can
    command cross community support,
    – a mandatory coalitioninvolving all
    the major parties, or
    – a corporate assemblyin which
    the Assembly as a whole would take
    executive decision”

    or was that before or after the TUV refused to take any action over its members calling for the release of a loyalist terrorist.

    Or maybe that was before Jim allister refused to reveal how muc he paid for each return flight to the Euro Parliament during his 5 years, as he was paid £1000 for each trip.

    what happened to the rest of the public money?

    also did you, or didnt you sign the TUV petition to release a convicted terrorist?

  • Drumlins Rock

    PS. Fitzjames, dont take my list serious! its just guessing.