“as soon as he heard of the possibility his brother might be nominated..”

In addition to the report Mick noted in the Irish News, that Liam Adams had worked as a part-time assistant youth worker at the Clonard Youth Centre between 1998 and 2003, the paper carries a quote from a “Sinn Féin spokesman” about the reports of Liam Adams seeking the Sinn Féin Dáil nomination for Co Louth in 1997.

“Liam Adams did not put his name foward for selection in 1997. Sinn Féin are saying that this story is completely inaccurate. “His name was never involved in that.” He said that Liam Adams had been living abroad but returned to Ireland in the early 1990s when he began associating with republicans in the Dundalk area. “Liam Adams was a member of Sinn Féin for a short time during the 1990s,” he said. “He had lived abroad and when he returned around 1993/94 he started mixing in republican circles in Dundalk. “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.”

Except that today, in response to the reports of Liam Adams seeking that 1997 nomination, the Irish Times reports

Mr Adams denied that Liam was nominated as a potential Sinn Féin candidate in the Dundalk area after the Sinn Féin leader broke ties with his brother. He said that as soon as he heard of the possibility his brother might be nominated, he moved to ensure that such a thing could not happen. “I moved immediately both to stop that and to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin without telling people why. But I moved very, very quickly. He wasn’t a contender, there was no nomination for Liam Adams in the Dundalk area. There was no convention in which his name was put forward, there was no contest in which he was part of.”

Then there are the details in the New York Times report from 1998, as noted here, where Liam Adams, who “came to Dundalk 10 years ago”, is referred to as “the chairman of the community council”.

The Irish News front page story also carries a statement from Clonard Youth Centre

A statement from Clonard Youth Centre said Liam Adams was given the part time position of assistant youth worker in 1998.

“He was interviewed, referenced and police-checked according to best practice in child protection and no concerns were raised in this process,” it said.

It said he ceased employment in 2003 and that there were no concerns arising from his time working there.

Meanwhile in the Irish Times report

Former Ardoyne parish priest Fr Aidan Troy last night confirmed he had been approached by Liam Adams to contact Ms Tyrell and that he had gone to see her about the alleged abuse in an effort to find “closure” for her.

Fr Troy denied he had advised her not to go public “because the press will make a circus out of it” and that “they’d only be interested in bringing Gerry Adams down”.

Speaking from Paris where he now serves, he emphatically denied to The Irish Times that he sought “in any way to seek to influence or dissuade anybody from pursuing a police prosecution”.

“Any suggestion that I did is totally untrue.” He accepted this contradicted what had been said to UTV last week by Ms Tyrell concerning his involvement, adding: “That’s the recollection of one person.”

He said Liam Adams had availed of his “open-door policy” while he was a priest at Ardoyne in Belfast.

Fr Troy said he found Ms Tyrell “just over a year ago” to offer her contact details for her father. “We met and, contrary to what the [UTV] programme said, she was gracious in the way she received me. I talked to her for approximately five minutes and when she said she didn’t want to talk to her father . . . I left.”

And did he know that he had been approached after Aine Tyrell had reactivated the police investigation? And that she had only done that after 5 years, between 2002 and 2007, of Gerry Adams failing to arrange a meeting with her father, Liam.

As the UTV Insight Special programme noted

Mr Adams attempted to make his brother answer for his alleged crimes, by trying to set up a meeting between Aine and her father so she could put the accusations to him directly.

“I tried to create a circumstance where Liam would come forward and do precisely what his daughter wanted.

“On the two occasions we had an arrangement where he was prepared to come along and do what Aine had requested and on two occasions at the very last minute that broke down.

“I was disappointed but Aine was even more disappointed understandably.”

Aine said she attended the “rushed” meetings with her uncle on her own, but said the tone changed as Mr Adams started to defend his brother.

“I got my eyes opened when I was going to the meetings.

“It was turning into Liam was the victim.”

Mr Adams has refuted the allegation, saying “any suggestion that in some way the perpetrator was on a level par with the victim is mistaken, as that was never and is not my position.”

Aine has since stopped contact with the West Belfast MP, after writing him a final letter.

She believes she was let down by her uncle.

“I ended up saying look do you know what it is, you have failed me again, when twenty years later I’ve asked you to do one thing.”, she said.

Adds From the BBC report

However, Clonard Youth Centre has issued a statement, making clear it was unaware of any allegations against Liam Adams when he worked there.

Spokesperson Brendan Dineen said the centre had reviewed all its documentation “and there is no record whatsoever regarding concerns about Mr Liam Adams during his time of employment at Clonard Youth Centre”.

“If we had been aware of allegations that have recently come to light, he would not have been employed at the centre,” he continued.

“There have been very stringent policies and procedures in place since the establishment of the club with no incidents of wrongdoing reported.”

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  • Only Asking

    You are conflating two things here. The Louth issue and the west Belfast youth issue.

    Is Adams lying or did the Tribune get it wrong?

    Somebody got the canditure issue muddled – Adams says its a story being put about by people who have ‘difference with him politically’.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=Talkback

  • GFASupporterButRealist

    Hmmmm. Important to give Gerry the benefit of the doubt big time, eh ? That reaction is wearing rather thin. And Adams is on RTE today on Pat Kenny attacking UTV reporter Chris Moore who broke the story. Now would that be because Chris Moore just happens to be a Prod and, well, you know…..except that this is the same Chris Moore who wrote the book on…..the Kincora scandal, which was run by….Prods. Ah yes, blame the messengers Gerry. Play the victim card. But you are NOT the victim here, Gerry, it is Aine who is the victim and who waited many years for you to do-the-right-thing. Stop trying to sympathy-spin. That tack isn’t going to work except with the most loyal Gerry-zealots….more and more inconsistencies about Gerry’s account emerge by the hour…..

  • Only Asking

    Hmmmm. Important to give Gerry the benefit of the doubt big time, eh ?

    No benefit of the doubt, this issue can clearly be established – he either promoted the brother or dumped him. There has been no evidence to support the view that Liam Adams had his name put forward in Louth….

    He’s taking an awful lot of time explaining the Louth issue….

  • alan56

    This is all really starting to look very bad for GA. Can you imagine what would have happened had an outsider been guilty of abusing a member of that or any other republican family in the 80s or 90s….?

  • Only Asking

    Anthony McIntyres photo is in the Irish News under the headline SF deny bid made for dial.

  • Only Asking

    IN’s writes:

    “On a blog former IRA prisoner, Anthony McIntyre, pictured right also wrote that Mr Adams had promoted ‘a man who he firmly believed to be a child rapist as a possible contender for a Dail seat in 1997”.

    So who is telling the truth?

  • John O’Connell

    This story really gives you an insight into the kind of people who are involved in Sinn Fein with their obvious toughness that is no more, it seems, than the product of abuse in their childhoods. The same old story as I recall when growing up with these tough guys. You don’t know what they’re going through and best to say nothing as it isn’t what you’re going through.

    But there’s a lot of trash in Sinn Fein.

  • Paul

    Adams’ brother employers hit out
    Liam Adams
    An arrest warrant has been issued for Liam Adams

    A community project which employed Gerry Adams’ brother has criticised the authorities for not telling them about sexual abuse allegations against him.

    Liam Adams worked for the Beechmount Community Project as a youth development officer from 2004 to 2006.

    He faces allegations that he abused his daughter when she was a child.

    Beechmount Community Project said he had been cleared to work with children and that the police and social services had “serious questions” to answer.

    A warrant is outstanding for Liam Adams’ arrest, to face allegations that he sexually abused Aine Tyrell when she was a young child.

    Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams has called for him to hand over himself to the authorities.

    It has emerged that Liam Adams worked with children in a number of roles for almost 20 years after his daughter and her mother reported him to the police in 1987.

    A spokesperson for the Beechmount Community Project, for which Liam Adams worked between November 2004 and May 2006, said: “We have never received any complaint from any child, young person or their parent, or staff member, with respect to Liam Adams and his period of employment here within our project.

    “Nevertheless, we feel that serious lapses by both the Social Services and the police have inexcusably put children and young people within our project at risk.”

    Liam Adams was also employed as a part-time youth worker at Clonard Youth Centre in west Belfast between 1998 and 2003.

    Clearance

    The Sinn Fein president has said he told staff there about the allegations against his brother.

    “When I discovered in the Belfast situation that he was working in a youth facility I went to those who had responsibility for that facility and told them of the allegation,” Mr Adams said.

    “He also had RUC or PSNI clearance to work in those facilities.”

    However, Clonard Youth Centre has issued a statement, making clear it was unaware of any allegations against Liam Adams when he worked there.

    Spokesperson Brendan Dineen said the centre had reviewed all its documentation “and there is no record whatsoever regarding concerns about Mr Liam Adams during his time of employment at Clonard Youth Centre”.

    “If we had been aware of allegations that have recently come to light, he would not have been employed at the centre,” he continued.

    “There have been very stringent policies and procedures in place since the establishment of the club with no incidents of wrongdoing reported.”

  • Alias

    [i]Mr Adams denied that Liam was nominated as a potential Sinn Féin candidate in the Dundalk area after the Sinn Féin leader broke ties with his brother. He said that as soon as he heard of the possibility his brother might be nominated, he moved to ensure that such a thing could not happen.

    “I moved immediately both to stop that and to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin without telling people why. But I moved very, very quickly. He wasn’t a contender, there was no nomination for Liam Adams in the Dundalk area. There was no convention in which his name was put forward, there was no contest in which he was part of.”

    Mr Adams said: “I wouldn’t say that I handled this perfectly. Of course I wouldn’t. But I tried to do my best by Áine and I tried to do my best by others within my family and as far as I could, we tried to ensure that no other child was at risk.

    “I told everyone within Liam’s limited circle of the allegation made against him. When I discovered in the Belfast situation that he was working in a youth facility I went to those who had responsibility for that facility and told them of the allegation.

    “He also had RUC or PSNI clearance to work in those facilities. I also pressed Liam to come out of it and in the second case he did what I demanded of him. I’m not suggesting that I handled this perfectly. I now know much, much more about how you handle these issues than I did at the time.”[/i]

    Adams says he concealed the reason why he was acting against his brother in the first act but then he says he revealed the reason in the other acts. I suppose if he wasn’t working with kids in the Shinners then they didn’t need to know why he was unceremoniously “dumped” by Gerry’s hidden hand – assuming, of course, that none of his fellow Shinners and supporters of his nomination had kids that Gerry would have been concerned about. But if Gerry really spent 22 years following his brother around and warning all and sundry about him as he claims, how come ne’er a word of it leaked out before now? Indeed, he claimed at first to be estranged from him, hardly knowing of where he was or what he was up to, but now he has to ‘un-distance’ himself from that distance he claimed was there and present himself as Liam’s shadow in order to explain why he let some he claims is a paedophile move freely between parishes, seeking out opportunities to work with vulnerable kids as is the known practice of paedophiles.

    Incidentally, the only reason Liam Adams “had RUC or PSNI clearance to work” with kids is because no case was brought against him in the matter of Aine Tyrell. If Gerry Adams had supported his neice at that time in seeking justice through the courts instead of looking after No 1 then that might not have been the case.

    Anyway, Aine’s mother said that the police were more interested in using her 14-year-old daughter as an informer. If so, then that is truly despicable. It certainly merits investigation. But would anyone be surprised if the alleged abuser was also recruited as an informer as a result of this and that is why the police did not bring charges against him? It wouldn’t be the first time that the British security establishment used paedophilia as a security tool, would it? They had turned a boy’s orphanage into a pederast’s brothel not long before that so it was well within their amoral scope.

  • seamusmor

    Adams (G) would never have spoken out only that he knew his niece wass going public. Chiris Moore isd an excellent reporter, it was he would did an excellent programme on another paedophil;e, Fr. Brendan Smith. Interesting how Gerry then reached for Tommie Gorman of RTE for a more sympathetic interview. Tommie is a friend of Martin McGuinness.

  • Ramzi Nohra

    Alias:
    “Incidentally, the only reason Liam Adams “had RUC or PSNI clearance to work” with kids is because no case was brought against him in the matter of Aine Tyrell. If Gerry Adams had supported his neice at that time in seeking justice through the courts instead of looking after No 1 then that might not have been the case”

    Is that actually the case? I thought she had gone to the RUC (and supposedly tried to turn her into an informer). She decided not to proceed with a case, but the RUC did know about the allegations. At least, thats what reading the threads here has told me.

  • Paul

    As I have said in another thread I smell a cover up.

  • Pete Baker

    OA

    “You are conflating two things here.”

    Don’t blame me if you can’t process a post on some of the inconsistencies in Gerry Adams’ story.

    On the Louth aspect,

    According to Gerry, on the Louth nomination in 1997,

    He said that as soon as he heard of the possibility his brother might be nominated, he moved to ensure that such a thing could not happen. “I moved immediately both to stop that and to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin without telling people why. But I moved very, very quickly.”

    While the SF spokesman had previously declared

    “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.”

    Which, admittedly, is closer to what Gerry told Tommie Gorman yesterday than what he’s declaring today.

    On Liam Adams youth work in west Belfast,

    However, Clonard Youth Centre has issued a statement, making clear it was unaware of any allegations against Liam Adams when he worked there.

    Who did Gerry tell then? And why is there no record of it?

    And why didn’t he tell the groups in Dundalk? Or the other groups in west Belfast?

    Or was Clonard a bit too close to Gerry? But, if so, why was Liam working there from 1998 to 2003?

    Lots of questions still.

  • Ramzi Nohra

    so are you accepting that the bit about him nominating his brother in Louth was wrong? I didnt see an update on your post about that. Strangely.

    You are right in that there are more questions of course. That is particularly the case on L working in clonard, although to be honest I would have thought Gerry is one of many parties to face questions on that. Possibly not the the major party in fact. Although he is the only one to be picked out here (and the media in general) as far as I can tell.

  • Ramzi Nohra

    Actually sorry Pete, that was Mick’s post. Apologies for inference etc in second sentence of first para.

  • Alias

    Ramzi Nohra, it is matter of local law and of internal agency procedures. Allegations of wrongdoing that are made against a person to the police do not constitute evidence of the alleged wrongdoing (obviously), so they cannot be used to deprive that person of employment or his or her good name in the absence of any subsequent action. However, this right to a presumption of innocence is usually qualified in law in regard to adults seeking employment with vulnerable groups.

    Information that is held on police files but has not led to any action and other so-called “soft intelligence” is only accessed by the police under qualitative and quantitative vetting procedures for adults seeking employment with vulnerable groups (such as children), and the information itself is never disclosed to the third parties.

    The law is constantly changing here so you would need to acquaint yourself with local law in that regard and with what the relevant protocols are in the PSNI now and back then. I’m not a lawyer so I can’t advise you.

    It might be the case with Liam Adams that the allegations needed to be more than one or needed some sort of internal grading or it could be the case that records from back were not accessed in vetting procedures. I simply don’t know. But as I said, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he became a ‘protected species’ for security expediencies.

    Incidentally, no-one at all has stepped forward to confirm that Gerry Adams warned them about his brother. In fact, the only folks who have stepped forward have denied that he warned them. But I guess warning folks in “Liam’s inner circle” about his alleged paedophilia is all dependent on who Gerry deems to have been in it. If his second wife says he didn’t tell her, Gerry can always claim that wasn’t the inner circle. And if anyone who considers himself in that inner circle says he wasn’t told, Gerry again can say he didn’t consider him in that circle. Unless Gerry is more specific about whom he warned, I’ll assume he told no-one. Indeed, even the ‘Adams family statement’ was issued by Gerry himself with no other family member signing it or confirming the allegation about his father.

  • Seamus

    Just no where as near smart as we all thought he was. Then again he can hardly ask the brits for another pull out by writing the script on this one.