“they are answerable to those to whom they sold that package”

The BBC report of NI First Minister Peter Robinson’s interview on the Politics Show today focuses on one quote relating to the deputy First Minister’s complaint. From the BBC report.

“Simply because Sinn Fein has a demand and can’t get other parties to agree with their demand isn’t an example of inequality, it means that they haven’t been able to pursue their political agenda or at least that aspect of it. “There’s no requirement on me to meet the demands of Sinn Fein and to fulfil their political agenda,” [Peter Robinson] told the BBC’s Politics Show.

But there was another equally important exchange during the interview about the latest manufactured “crisis”.

[Jim Fitzpatrick] “Sinn Féin sold the whole idea for support for policing on the fact that policing and justice would be devolved. Do you know how difficult that was for them? They’re not seeing any progress on that issue…

[Peter Robinson] “Well, if Sinn Féin oversold what they thought they could achieve then they are answerable to those to whom they sold that package. The reality is they weren’t entitled to sell it.”

Continued

[Peter Robinson] “The St Andrews Agreement was clear. There was no commitment to any date for policing and justice in the St Andrews Agreement.

“Immediately the agreement was published, Dr Paisley, on behalf of the party, with his colleagues around him, indicated very clearly that the Democratic Unionist Party had not signed up for any particular date for policing and justice. But because it was a party priority to get policing and justice we would continue to work towards it.

“We have, in the legislation at Westminster, got clear conditions which allow us to determine when and why we would move forward with policing and justice.

“So they had no right to be indicating to anybody that policing and justice would come in a particular period of time. We weren’t under any commitment to do so whatsoever.”

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  • slug

    A confident and clear interview from Mr Robinson.

  • Pancho’s horse

    How many times, over the centuries, have the slippy English seduced the rebellious Irish into their parlour? This time, most people thought that the Provisional Alliance were wise old birds, at least as smart as the English. They had their principles to fall back on if John Bull turned treacherous and if hardies came to hardies, the guns were there. Now we see the castrati in full view. No police, no guns,no United Ireland. Just temporary seats in a jumped up county council, paid for by Britain. All paid for in Irish lives so that Martin McGuinness can stand shoulder with the local gauleiters and call Irish Republicans ‘traitors’.

  • aquifer

    SFIRA kept us waiting for decommissioning, the DUP are keeping us waiting for policing. Are we expected to get excited about this as we struggle to hold on to our jobs?

    We’ll sort them all out come the election.

  • The Raven

    As a not-even-casual observer of all things P&J related, (I grew bored of it sometime back in the last centurt), I have to say the arrogance of Robinson is astounding, even in the scheme of things. The multi-layered mosaic of what-you-get-when-I-get-what-I want is truly sickening. If half the effort that has been put into not moving ahead with this, were put into economic development issues, we’d be the shining star of UK economies.

    Stomach-churning, to say the least. And people vote for this…??? And I’m still waiting for a definition of “community confidence”…

  • andrew white

    And I’m still waiting for a definition of “community confidence”…
    Posted by The Raven on Dec 06, 2009 @ 06:02 PM

    HOw about when the community feel confident that those in Sinn Fein , a party that murdered police officers and judges, have truly wedded themselves to the democratic process

    I can tell you that there are FEW in the unionist communtiy who have any confidence that Sinn Fein will ever achieve this.

  • Pancho’s Horse

    The police officers have managed to murder a few themselves and the judges all colluded in the show trials. Think how confident that makes us feel.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Andrew,

    Ian Paisley himself once said to police officers “don’t come running to me when they burn you out of your houses”. I can’t take lectures from the DUP about people being wedded to the democratic process or to upholding the law very seriously.

  • latcheeco

    Andrew,
    Lets not forget, while we’re lecturing others on the contents of their eyes,whose red beret clad organisation imported all those AKs from South Afrika to share with the UDA and UVF.

  • Intelligence Insider

    It took sf/pira 11 years to complete decommissioning from their initial ceasefire, surely they see that as a reasonable timescale from a Minister is decided upon before P & J is devolved?

  • I’m important so listen to me

    ”Intelligence Insider” – slugger’s very own Walter Mitty. Keep on dreaming big man!

  • andrew white

    comrade, you ambivalnce to convicted terrorists, men and women who murdered police officers and actually burnt them out of their homes is not surprising. Alliance is a political whore who will do whatever is asked just to get a few moments in the limelight.

    Now where is the back end of that pantomime horse?

  • Only Asking.

    I thought Robinson was confident, and laid it out straight. SF held back parades when that issue could have been dealt with before this, they held it back as a bargaining chip and its not working instead it has actively worked against them.

    The shinners are in a bind, they did sell a package to the ard fheis and now they can’t deliver, and Robbo is right, it isn’t his job to fulfil SF’s political agenad.

    If the shinners sell out on parades, which imv this is what this is all about, and there are parades down it, then wtf was everything about?

    The shinners choice, is to walk away or ‘dimmi up’ as Robbo says, theres no middle ground. This could turn out to be very interesting.

  • Only Asking

    and there are parades down it,

    *blocked routes..

  • exile

    [i]Alliance is a political whore who will do whatever is asked just to get a few moments in the limelight.[/i]

    Never, never, never. Never.

  • Guest

    what was the package.it goes something like this-

    “The Ard Chomhairle recommends:

    That this Ard Fheis endorses the Ard Chomhairle motion. That the Ard Chomhairle is mandated to implement this motion only when the power-sharing institutions are established and when the Ard Chomhairle is satisfied that the policing and justice powers will be transferred. Or if this does not happen within the St Andrews timeframe, only when acceptable new partnership arrangements to implement the Good Friday Agreement are in place. ”

    I can’t see a problem for Sinn Féin.Unless someone can point ou where and when the Ard Chomairle has implemented the motion.

    The rest is unionist hot air,an effort to divert from their acceptance of ST.Andrews.

  • Dixie Elliott

    Devolution of P&J, if attained, will change nothing. Westminster/MI5 will continue to control the political aspects of P&J, Alliance a diluted Unionist party will head the ministry and the Unionists will ensure that PSF never have any say in decision making.

    Therefore the leadership have still sold a lie to their grassroots.

    Another thing where will the money [£800m] come from to pay for this pipe-dream of Adams…Hospitals, Housing, education etc?

  • Only Asking

    The rest is unionist hot air,an effort to divert from their acceptance of ST.Andrews.

    If its unionist hot air why is MMcG usin crisis language, such as ‘crisis’ ‘meltdown’, and not telling the electorate of his intentions? Tell us Guest why mc guinness is so vocal about a deadline before Christmas?

  • Guest

    just like the calls for Home rule changed nothing…………politics is not a game of magic.

  • Only Asking.

    .Devolution of P&J, if attained, will change nothing.

    Indeed it will. If it happens it will be the first time since the inception of the state that republicans have their hands on the police in NI, but they made a grave error in tying it to parades. They need to give on parades like Garvaghy, Whiterock etc, shinners in charge of police while Orange men go down Garvaghy road?

    Thats an active role, not the same as calling people names like traitors. Wouldn’t that be a sight to see?

  • Guest

    Why shouldn’t he be so vocal when there is a good chance that robinson will be forced through pressure from the governments,just as he and paisley were last time.the issue is clear-if the DUP do not act under that pressure then sinn fein support for policing disappears until there are new mechanisms to see it’s implementation.But why should sinn Féin not use the government pressure that has already worked,and that has brought plan B into the consciousness of politics in the country, and bolstered the support of the TUV.That is robinsons problem.Why should sinn Féin help him out?

  • Only Asking.

    Robinson doesn’t need McGuinness’ help. No one wants to bring these institutions down, especially McGuinness. This is Adams’ project, his baby. He claims republicans fought the long war, and any more war is simply fighting into a corner, so this is the route now to a United Ireland, isn’t it? Without this Adams’ project is dead. They can’t let this baby die.

    Neither the TUV nor UUP even jointly will over turn the DUP majority, they make a lot of noises about it. Almost like dissidents made noises about going into politics as an alternative to SF, what a hole they were going to punch in the SF votes, didn’t happen. The TUV have echoes of this.

    This is put up or shut up time for the shinners. Do they want policing, if they do, they know the price. Garvaghy’s head on a plate, orange feet on that street, and whiterock etc. Pay up or walk away and bring down the institutions. Even another election won’t see this change if it is to be nothing more than a pissing competition between the two major parties, the problem won’t go away you know.

  • Guest

    glad you recognize that the peace process is a sinn féin project and that unionist involvement has been based on government pressure from the beginning.Sinn Féin do not need to bring down strand 1,I agree.There support for policing is based on the devolution of policing and justice powers.If the DUP are not forced to accept this by the governments then sinn Féin support for policing does not happen if and until acceptable new partnership arrangements to implement the Good Friday Agreement are in place. If that is the case what are DUP going to do;walk away?Are they going to boycott the policing board because are there without supporting the police?
    Do the DUP want the ST;Andrew’s agreement.Put or shut up time.Plan Z anyone?

  • Dixie Elliott

    Indeed it will. If it happens it will be the first time since the inception of the state that republicans have their hands on the police in NI…
    Only Asking

    As I pointed out Westminster/MI5 will retain control of the political aspects of Policing and Unionists will never let PSF get their hands on the police…

    It will always be, as is happening now, that if PSF say one thing in regards P&J, the whole Unionist lot of them will say no! And we’ll be back to huffing.

  • Only Asking

    if and until acceptable new partnership arrangements to implement the Good Friday Agreement are in place

    In other words an election. You are going around in circles, a new election is not a guarantee that anything will change on this issue. Sinn Fein have already given their support to policing. Did you miss all those calls to give information to the police heard on radio and television. Support for policing is a done deal.

    Unionists will never let PSF get their hands on the police…

    Yes they will, once they pay the price, and they have been paying it up until now. Listen to MMcGuinness’comments re traitors, listen to John O’Dowd calling for support and information for the police even Maskey has swung in behind them.

    SF need to pay up, first they had to endorse police, accept Patten rather than a new police force etc etc now they need to hand over Garvaghy and other contentious issues surrounding parades. SF say this is about equality, Robinson says it ain’t, this has nothing to do with MI5, its more basic than that, will SF give the price asked. Anyone like to place bets?

    Do the DUP want the ST;Andrew’s agreement

    The dupers knew what they were doing witha triple lock on education and in writing re policing and justice. Sinn Fein got played.

  • Guest

    “Only asking”;
    “in other words an election”

    Not so,I’m afraid.there are numerous possibilities on “new partnership arrangements”,including a new arrangement with the DUP or Plan b.
    I will once again point out that Sinn Féin have not given their agreement on policing until powers have been transferred.Read the motion again.
    I agree that this has nothing to do with MI5 or 6.
    You seem to be under the impression that policing is sinn Féin’s only way forward whist at the same time that the DUP’s way forward is through the same veto ridden channel of parading.hilarious,this new found unionist confidence!
    You can keep your policing.With it’s 50-50.With ti’s parade commission,with sinn Féin on the policing board but not supporting policing.With mandatory coalition,with direct rule ministers scrapping your 800 thou are thee, and a sinn féin first minister.Or are yous going to walk away?

  • Only Asking

    Why would the DUP now consider a new relationship? Why would they give way in this new realationship on policing and justice, but not now? Due to government pressure? If the monetary package didn’t shift them why would any other kind of pressure, and what would this pressure look like?

    I will once again point out that Sinn Féin have not given their agreement on policing until powers have been transferred.Read the motion again

    I have looked at the motion, and ask you again what I asked earlier and you chose not to answer. If SF do not want policing and justice very badly why is MMcGuinness y fronts in a twist over a deadline before christmas?

    You seem to be under the impression that policing is sinn Féin’s only way forward

    Do enlighten us.

    that the DUP’s way forward is through the same veto ridden channel of parading

    Not what I said. The Dupers wants parades settled to their satisfaction, SF held back this as a bargaining chip, but if all else fails the DUP can move forward in new arrangements with the other parties.

    You can keep your policing.With it’s 50-50.With ti’s parade commission,with sinn Féin on the policing board but not supporting policing.With mandatory coalition,with direct rule ministers

    It’s not mine, and sure didn’t SF go to an awful lot of trouble to get what they have now, including fifty fifty policing, and aren’t they fond of running to Westminister and Dublin to try and get what they want? The stuff you deride SF cried and played hard for.

    When are you going to answer my question re McGuinness?

    Or are yous going to walk away?

    I’m in no political party, but its been a long time since I laughed so much at the shinners discomfort. And they have to cope with those dreadful dissidents too Guest, almost as big a threat to the shinners in this bind as the TUV are to the Dupers, except SF’s bind help the Dupers laugh all the way to the polls.

    Don’t forget to answer me re mcguinness and his twisted Y fronts now will you?

  • Guest

    Your question re the deputy first minister has been answered.but as you don’t seem to be a reader,i said this” Why shouldn’t he be so vocal when there is a good chance that robinson will be forced through pressure from the governments,just as he and paisley were last time.the issue is clear-if the DUP do not act under that pressure then sinn fein support for policing disappears until there are new mechanisms to see it’s implementation.But why should sinn Féin not use the government pressure that has already worked,and that has brought plan B into the consciousness of politics in the country, and bolstered the support of the TUV.That is robinsons problem.Why should sinn Féin help him out? ”
    Concerning sinn Féin having another way forward,well,please define forward for us “readers”.

    parading;”sinn féin held this back as a bargaining chip”.Please explain.

    Re dissidents being as much a threat to sinn féin as the TUv;please explain.I think you are out of your eyes.

  • Guest

    “It’s not mine, and sure didn’t SF go to an awful lot of trouble to get what they have now, including fifty fifty policing, and aren’t they fond of running to Westminister and Dublin to try and get what they want? The stuff you deride SF cried and played hard for.”-only asking.

    And what have they lost in what they have gained?
    And what would they lose in not agreeing policing?

    Shut or put up time for the DUP.Is robinson going to give us a list of conditions?or wil he just sed forward his pawns to talk TUV.

  • Only Asking

    Your question re the deputy first minister has been answered

    No you haven’t. You are under some very basic misunderstandings.

    parading;“sinn féin held this back as a bargaining chip”.Please explain.

    Ahhh….. now everything is clear.

    WATCH THE POLITICS SHOW.

    I think you are out of your eyes.

    You do huh? I’m not the one posting comments on a thread re an interview on the politics show while not having wathed the show.

    Watch the show then come back and opine again, if you can understand whats being talked about that is.

    Until you do, I’ll leave you in your ignorance.

  • Guest

    “Not what I said. The Dupers wants parades settled to their satisfaction”-only asking.

    And if they don’t get parades to their satisfaction or anything to their community’s faction?
    Will they be then tearing up their y fronts or will they continue negotiations?will they then have promised unionists to much?Will they then be on the hook?Hilarious,this unionist new found futuring!

  • sleepingpostie

    “then sinn fein support for policing disappears”

    Guest, in practical terms what would this disappearance of sf’s support for policing mean? Surely they wouldn’t start supporting ‘violence ‘ again or orchestrate rioting to show how upset the troops are because that would lose them all their brownie points they earned to date. Leave the policing board and the dpps? Yawn, who’d notice any change except in sth armagh the diesel launderers, fraudsters and murderers of Paul Quinn would have no one to speak up for them.

  • Guest

    Thank you for leaving in my ignorance “only asking”.Is that code fro walking away when the other asks questions you cannot answer?
    once again,please explain why you believe that dissidents with no electoral support are the same threat to sinn fein as the TUV with decent political support within and without the dup are to the DUP.Please explain why you believe sinn Féin are wedded to policing but the duo are not wedded to 50-50,the parades commission,and mandatory government.If no for me,for the “readers”!

  • Only Asking.

    Watch the show. LOL LOL

    Good night guest, now off you go and WATCH THE SHOW.

  • Guest

    sleepingpostie,
    you’re talking sense,what in practical terms does it mean that they support policing?Seeing that his idea is sold as a DUP gain in negotiations.

  • Guest

    indeed,only asking,good night,

    Off and watch the real world!
    ps-do try and think through your arguments before putting the in public

  • Only Asking

    ps-do try and think through your arguments before putting the in public

    aye guest, robbo will be forced to give SF what they want and stormont will live happy ever after.

    parading;“sinn féin held this back as a bargaining chip”.Please explain.

    Have you watched the show yet? It would help if you could enlighten yourself on whaqt is being discussed before putting your “arguments” ??? out in public. Then you’d know what was being talked about lol. At least you are amusing….yawn

  • Guest

    Robinson will probably give nothing.What amuses me is that he thinks in stopping Sinn Féin getting what he wants he thinks he’s going to get what he wants.Northern Ireland is a miserable failure-that is my point.I have watched the show,there i nothing new.It is called thread drift,and you have points you cannot back up,no matter whos drift.Care to answer the questions i’ve put or are you going to continue with your blatent unionist nonsense?

  • Only Asking

    What makes you think I’m unionist?

  • Only Asking

    You watched the show?

    parading;“sinn féin held this back as a bargaining chip”.Please explain.

    Do you know the answer to this now? Yes? No? Go on explain. Maybe you watched, but did you understand?

    I have watched the show,there i nothing new.

    Did you understand what Robinson was saying?

    I think you’re out of your depth old son.

  • Pete Baker

    Guest

    Let me see if I’ve got your argument line[s] on this right.

    Sinn Féin never really supported policing. Despite what Gerry said.

    And their subsequent signing up to the ministerial code, sitting on the Poliicng Board, DPPs, etc. Including those party members having assets seized under the direction of Soca.

    But if a date for the devolution of policing and justice powers isn’t set by Christmas they’ll withdraw that support?

    Go ahead. See how far that gets you.

    *Cuckoo* *Cuckoo*

  • igor

    Ah Pancho. Every time someone points out the sins of commission in the Shinners approach out you trot to shit on the roadway, all green and steamy.

    Now clean it up like a good chap and let the rest of us get on with real life and politics

    Your day will come. Just not any day soon

  • igor

    “The police officers have managed to murder a few themselves”

    Really? When?

    as Gerry tediously reminds us on other issues…… there is no proof of that……

    And isn’t it funny how when brave volunteers are killed ‘on active service’ they were immediately murdered while when they killed someone it wasn’t a criminal act it was a justifiable act fighting the oppression of the MOPE

  • igor

    “then sinn fein support for policing disappears until there are new mechanisms to see it’s implementation”

    So you are saying that the support for policing is just a political tap to be turned on and off then? Just a tactical ploy nit a real long term commitment.

    Fine. Then you just reinforce every unionist fear and no devolution at all then for the foreseeable future until Martin finds himself negotiating with Jim Allister

  • igor

    “republicans have their hands on the police in NI”

    Oh do grow up and read the legislation, not An Phoblachts ‘analysis’.

  • Guest

    Pete,

    That is the line per st.Andrews.It’s not my line nor yours.It’s what has been agreed.I am not here to say what will happen but simply to point out the facts of what have been agreed.Gerry Adam’s interview is not the Ard Chomhairle’s motion.and your link to what you have said in another post is typical of your lack of fact.
    I have not said that they will withdraw support,I’ve said that support has only been given under the situation where we see transfer of Policing and justice.You may not see a difference but have accepted that there is a difference in your lack of link to ard comhairle motion;.why would Sinn Féin not use that difference when the DUP use deal by letter as excuse.so subsequent DUP implementation of ST.Andrews has nothing to do with their acceptance of the rest of the deal.This is GFA à la carte…….So why can’t Sinn Féin play the same game and lead us all into Cuckoo land;hand and hand with the dup and voluntary coalition,and the end of the parades commission,and walking where your not wanted,and..well,anything anyone wants really

    “Only asking”,I didn’t say you are a unionist,I said you were spitting “blatent unionist nonsense”

  • Guest

    Igor,
    “then sinn fein support for policing disappears until there are new mechanisms to see it’s implementation”

    So you are saying that the support for policing is just a political tap to be turned on and off then? Just a tactical ploy nit a real long term commitment.

    Fine. Then you just reinforce every unionist fear and no devolution at all then for the foreseeable future until Martin finds himself negotiating with Jim Allister ”

    Of course it is a political tap.So is Dup drip drip on power-sharing.

    The rest of your suggestions are fine by me.

  • Pete Baker

    Guest

    “That is the line per st.Andrews.It’s not my line nor yours.It’s what has been agreed.”

    You need to look again at what was actualy agreed in the St Andrews Agreement.

    “I’ve said that support has only been given under the situation where we see transfer of Policing and justice.”

    And has support for policing been given by Sinn Féin? Or not?

    Have the Ard Chomhairle implemented the Ard Fheis motion, or not?

    Good luck trying to re-cross that rubicon.

  • Guest

    Pete,

    Incredibly you have a point.The ST.andrews has allowed sinn Féin take seats on the policing board,DPPs etc without the party endorsing policing.It is another hook,in the agreement;I wonder who will end up hung out on this one should the powes not be transfered.Will the DUP then boycott these bodies or will these bodies cease to exist?Or will the DUP swallow hard knowing that these must continue under a la carte GFA?

    Cuckoo!

  • Pete Baker

    Guest

    So we’re back to the argument line that

    The ST.andrews has allowed sinn Féin take seats on the policing board,DPPs etc without the party endorsing policing.

    Good luck with that one.

  • Guest

    Pete,

    You know the answer.The dup wish to recross certain rubicons and for the moment both governments are pressing them and not sinn féin.
    sinn Féin have endorsed policing under defining assumptions.ie;Failure to transfer powers equals end of support until new mechanisms are in place.How more direct can I be?

  • Guest

    Good luck with the one”-Pete

    Good luck with the other one.

  • Pete Baker

    “You know the answer.The dup wish to recross certain rubicons and for the moment both governments are pressing them and not sinn féin.”

    Of course they are, Guest.

    “sinn Féin have endorsed policing under defining assumptions”

    Of course they have, Guest.

    Good luck re-crossing that rubicon.

  • Guest

    Well,I think that we have wished each other enough good luck and seem to have come to arrived at phoney war nonsense.
    Probably about right,all considered.

    Both parties are trying to claw back on certain issues.My point is that Sinn Féin have a defined mechanism to do so,whilst the DUP endorsed ST.Andrews without any internal mechanism to recross their rubicon except mutual veto.Interesting?

    How can they pull out of mandatory government without bringing down the government?
    How can they get rid of the parade commission without bringing down the government?
    And will bringing down strand 1 stop the workings of strand 2,and the eventual rise of plan B?

    .

  • Pete Baker

    “My point is that Sinn Féin have a defined mechanism to do so,whilst the DUP endorsed ST.Andrews without any internal mechanism to recross their rubicon except mutual veto.”

    A “defined mechanism”?

    Right.

    Go for it.

    “whilst the DUP endorsed ST.Andrews without any internal mechanism to recross their rubicon except mutual veto”

    And the particular rubicon which requires re-crossing is?

  • Dave

    The Shinners can’t cross back over Rubicon (and not simply because a lot of senior touts would be mysteriously outted if they even tried). They can’t do ideologically because once they conceded that they could be ruled by the Crown forces, they’ve conceded the principle for all time; and they can’t do it politically because their internal solution requires a police force. Lastly, of course, they can’t do it because all those Catholics they encouraged to join the police would be left stranded on the other side. There’s no going back, kids.

  • USA

    Someone earlier was talking rubbish about tying the parades issue to P+J. Ain’t going to happen.

  • Only Asking.

    Someone earlier was talking rubbish about tying the parades issue to P+J. Ain’t going to happen.

    But it has. Listen to Robinson in the programme. Sinn Fein tied parades to it, and now it must be sorted before the devoloution of p+j, that is still unfinished work. If SF tied it to policing and justice it stands to reason they did that to make it a bargaining chip. The parades issues could have been solved at St Andrews, it’s still waiting.

    Unless you know better than Peter Robinson?

  • spiritof07

    The interim report from the Ashdown crew specifically stated that the contents and recommendations of the report coudl only be implemented as part of devolution of P&J.

    SF nominated people to sit on the group.

    Robinson is correct to say that SF made the link.

  • Pete Baker

    Indeed, Dave.

    Guest appears to be labouring under the misapprehension that they only half-crossed it.

  • USA

    I will try and make this nice and simple.
    There is no way SF are going to conceed Orange marches down Garvaghy Road etc in return for devolution of P+J.
    Ultimately Robinson will agree to the devolution of P+J, probably within the next 6 months.

  • Democratic

    “I will try and make this nice and simple.
    There is no way SF are going to conceed Orange marches down Garvaghy Road etc in return for devolution of P+J.”
    Please USA – no simplifying is required surely -we’re all big boys – tell us what you know – or is your confident statement just your own “gut feelings” on the matter much like your timeframe?

  • Peter Robinson may have sounded plausible, emphasising that Sinn Fein had signed up to the outcome of the Ashdown review.

    The Ashdown review is not mentioned in the St. Andrews Agreement.

    Robinson keeps talks about “public confidence” It is worth looking at another earlier Slugger posting by Mick.

    http://www.sluggerotoole.com/index.php/weblog/comments/for-or-against-the-parades-commission-in-leiu-of-joint-leadership-it-is-lik/

    The post says this:-

    “Statistics would suggest it isn’t such a do or die issue as all that. The Omnibus Survey, conducted by the NI Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) shows growing acceptance of the Commission. Just over half the population (56 per cent) now believe that the Commission has improved the situation overall compared to 20 per cent in 2001. For Protestants alone, approval for the Commission has gone up from eight per cent in 2001 to 39 per cent this year.”

    Robinson is certainly not acting within the spirit of St. Andrews. His stated excuses are complete humbug.