No Pope Here group attracts DUP support

Ian McCrea MLA (DUP) is one of 47 members of the ‘No Pope Here’ group on Facebook which is campaigning against the possibility of papal feet ever touching UK soil. Checkov has some early reaction from a unionist perspective.

Hard to believe , but true.

  • Slightly poor form there Conall. A link to the blog which picked this up first seems reasonable to expect.

  • ben

    Lucky old pope …

  • Garza

    What small minded people!

  • Sorry bout that Checkov. Was sent a direct link. Ill get link to you up. Your blog is opening in multiple windows though.

  • Perhaps Ian McCrea should be banned from Question-Time?!

    Thanks to Chekov for flagging this up and the involvement of Ballymoney Councillor Ian Stevenson in the group as well.

    My own thoughts are blogged here:
    http://daithimckay.blogspot.com/2009/10/mccrea-takes-no-pope-here-campaign-to.html

    Do the DUP endorse pictures like the one below given that they have members in this group and if not will they be encouraging McCrea and Stevenson to cancel their membership?

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DjKb9akP1H4/SuG56AOjF6I/AAAAAAAAAZs/4JTlQq6LmoA/s400/nopopesite.jpg

  • Sorry bout that Checkov. Was sent a direct link. Ill get link to you up. Your blog is opening in multiple windows though.

    No problem. Don’t know why that’s happening. Will look into it.

  • They have about the same number of members as the BNP in NI.

    Maybe there’s some wierd natural law that say that 0.0001% of any population will join some oddball organisation just for the sheer heck of it?

  • “Hard to believe , but true.”

    Why is it hard to believe, Conall? ‘No Pope Here’ brigade joins ‘No Pope Here’ group on Facebook ..

  • DR

    Phew, dont know anyone on it, so far…

    Daithi, it is sorta interesting that the Queen is onto her 6th Pope, shows how long she has been around, personally I think he should be welcomed as any other head of state, and allowed to perform his pastoral duties without hinderance. I also trust that you will be giving the same welcome to the Queen when she eventually visits Dublin.

  • Get it right Conall, it is the “Protestants Against a Papal Visit to Northern Ireland” Group which Chekov has linked to.

    585 members so far.
    Interesting crossover between the TUV and the DUP in the group. (Thats real and continuity DUP)

    See how many DUPers you can identify.
    One of the members profile says, “Political Views: UVF. Religious Views: Prod Threw and Threw.”
    Hmmn is that a penecostal sect?

    Seems Sammy Wilson’s office staff have too much time on their hands these days. Sammy really should spend more time in the office. I wonder did they sign up during office hours, ie when we were paying for them??

  • “…sorta interesting that the Queen is onto her 6th Pope, …”

    Betty got the crown at the mature and experianced age of 26.

    Benedict became Pope at the age of 78. When he was 26 he’d already been an active objector to Nazism then shanghai’ed into the Weirmach; after WW11 and only 24 years old he’d studied for the priesthood and ordained.

  • richie

    DUP MLA’s Ian McRea and Trevor Clarke as well as DUP Cllrs Ian Stevenson, Brian Graham and Pam Lewis also involved in this group. Hardly significant or well known figures in the Party but public reps all the same.

  • richie

    Larneman – interesting that Sammys staff have but he hasn’t. Think those who have signed are indeed on the TUV wing of the DUP!

  • ben

    Speaking of popes and queens, do you know what’s a great idea? Secular democracy.

  • joeCanuck

    Ben,
    Did you mean secular republican democracy?

  • cut_the_bull

    If such a vistit does happen and the PSNI police and provide security in a joint operation with the Popes own personal protection team.
    Will this be enough for the DUP to with draw any support for devolving P&J citing a lack of confidence within the Unionist community, particularly the no Pope here grouping within its own ranks.

  • cut_the_bull

    No Pope in Rome

    He’s in Belfast being carried along Royal Avenue on high

    There’s Papists, Nuns and Priests swinging rosary beads

    On this sacred day the 12th of July

    The above is the stuff of some peoples night mares. Sleep tight

  • Rory Carr

    Perhaps this sad bunch drew their inspiration from éirigí who last year demonstrated their own sectarian credentials when they protested against the head of the Anglican Church, Queen Elizabeth II, celebrating a tradition of that church, the distribution of Maundy money, at the Anglican cathedral in Armagh. In so doing they brought shame not only upon themselves but upon the name of Republicanism by falsely claiming to uphold its anti-sectarian principles.

    With actions like that they give allowance to this crude anti-Catholic crusade whose supporters can justify their intolerance with the age old cry, “Well, themmuns do it as well!”.

  • I can tell you that the Bavarian Orange Order is glad to be rid of him. We hope he makes a prolonged visit to the British Isles which lasts several months so that we can get on with our task of converting Bavaria into an Orange and Protestant beer-brewing state of the first order. No surrender.
    By the way, you Ulster Orangemen are a bunch of jessies, you think you are hard parading through towns where you know you won´t get a half brick thrown at you. Meanwhile, us Bavarian Loyalists are planning to march through the Pope´s home town next year on the 12th. Beat that, you big girls.

  • Sam Flanagan

    BOGM:
    Hilarious

  • Fabianus

    Bald men and comb-fights come to mind.

  • borderline

    586 members so far.

    It’s getting a head of steam.

    Another 350 members and the combined IQ gets to 61.

  • thereyouarenow

    Religious people are a godsend to comedians and the rest of us.

    Who would we laugh at these days if we did not have religious nutters of all shades to break the monotony of our everyday lives.

    I thank God for them and I am sure he has a good laugh as well.

  • Sam Flanagan

    thereyouarenow;
    I cannot help noting the “sexist” tone of your remarks, by 2009 standards. “to comedians and the rest of us.”

    Surely you meant to say; “to comedians, comediennes and the rest of us.”

    Religious people are a good laugh but it is the people who have THE truth who will have the last and longest laugh.

  • Jimmy

    Are these people for real? If this was in any other part of the UK there would be careers lost, Reputations destroyed, Prosecutions under ‘Hate crime laws’. Is Northern Ireland still that backward that we still do not see such people with such repulsion as would be the case on the Mainland?
    I said before and again, legislators really need to get tough and serious about Sectarianism.As they do about Racial Crimes.
    Until the Government takes this seriously they will continue to be exactly what they are, a total embarrasment.

  • Yoda

    in Vatican the is he

  • Mack

    Ian McCrea is 100% right to oppose the popes coming here regardless of wether or not you agree he the anti christ he is not welcome here in Northern Ireland. David McKay is headline grabbing and shouldn’t be given any airtime to attack DUP members.

  • Fabianus

    thereyouarenow

    Who would we laugh at these days if we did not have religious nutters

    I don’t laugh at the religious but at the crackpot, weird and wonderful beliefs they can espouse. Of course when such lunacy leads to suffering and even death that’s when I stop laughing.

    Sam Flanagan

    it is the people who have THE truth who will have the last and longest laugh.

    That’s true. The Scientologists will be splitting their sides when Zenu, the dictator of the Galactic Confederacy, returns to complete the Hyperspace Bypass.

    (Apologies if I’m conflating truths here.)

  • borderline

    wether or not you agree he the anti christ he is not welcome here in Northern Ireland.

    Here in Northern Ireland?

    Where in Northern Ireland , Mack?

  • Republic of Connaught

    Calls for a visit of the Pope to Northern Ireland by hundreds of thousands of Catholics who live in Northern Ireland and a call for the Queen of England to visit the Republic of Ireland when no one in the Republic has any real interest in her are two very different arguments.

    Personally, I think the Queen would be welcome to visit Dublin. But the Pope should definitely visit Northern Ireland if so many Catholics there want him to.

  • Fabianus

    Republic of Connaught

    a call for the Queen of England to visit the Republic of Ireland when no one in the Republic has any real interest in her

    You are kidding me. The Queen and indeed all members of the royal family are personae mucha grata in the RoI. They can’t get enough of them and it’s a phenomenon that’s not confined to the uneducated.

    I imagine it’s due to an atavistic worship of monarchs, something one still comes across even in Marxist/Communist societies. In my travels I met several Chinese who spoke with fondness of their old emperors even though said rulers tended to treat the common people like cattle or worse. Uncanny.

  • Prionsa Eoghann

    Normality in the six counties of Ireland, how British is that exactly? Perhaps 150 years ago those attitudes still prevailed in Sassennach land and perhaps still as short a time as 20 odd years in Bonnie Scotland.

    Will those who vote for the DUP demand the dismissal of those members who have joined the ‘kick the Pope’ brigade, or ask them to lead the speeches at Scarva next July? Wonder what would happen in the UK?

  • Rory Carr

    I am perfectly happy for Queen to make an appearance in Dublin but without Freddie Mercury there is bound to some disappointment. Still, better than a Cliff Richard concert, what?

  • Fabianus

    Rory

    Queen? There are at least three tribute bands who in my humble opinement will not disappointment.

    Odd how nobody seems to want to do a Cliff Richard tribute in light of the fact that he and Elvis were more or less contemporary.

  • pete whitcroft

    They believe he is the Anti-Christ.
    It might be worth asking them who The Whore of Babylon is.

  • Rory Carr

    Odd how nobody seems to want to do a Cliff Richard tribute…

    No, Fabianus, not really odd at all. Having spent a lifetime working in offices in London I have seen every variety of nerd that it is possible to see but I have yet to encounter any poor soul so far gone in their nerdishness to think that working up a Cliff Richard tribute act was a good idea. It would be a tribute equivalent of that portrait of Myra Hindley composed of childrens’ photographs that was displayed for a short time at the Royal Academy before public outrage forced its withdrawal.

    Some things simply are distasteful and should be avoided. Having a LibDem as a guest at a dinner party for example.

    Shudder!