“The Irish Times has got in on the Irish America bashing act lately..”

Niall O’Dowd doubles down on his ad hominem editorial response to Niall Stanage’s recent Irish Times article with an equally ad hominem follow-up article on his Irish Central website. Once again the US-Ireland Alliance seem to be his primary additional target, but he throws in Irish diplomat Sean Donlon and “the toffee nose crowd back at the Irish Times” for good measure. He may have missed Niall Stanage’s letter in the Irish Times following O’Dowd’s earlier right of reply. But it’s all a distraction from the real issue – O’Dowd’s original mis-direction over the US Secretary of State and the non-appointment of a political envoy. So, one more time, for those at the back of the class..

The key to understanding the previous mis-briefings is that this represents a climb-down by Hillary Clinton from her previously stated position noted by Brian, and an acceptance of the position as stated by Barack Obama [pdf file] – “that the crisis period for Northern Ireland has passed and that the people of Northern Ireland are now in charge of their own destiny” – which caused such outrage at the time amongst certain Irish-American lobbyists. In particular, the Clinton-supporting Niall O’Dowd.

Irish Voice publisher Niall O’Dowd, who supported Mrs Clinton in the Democratic primaries, said the statement was unclear but warned that any weakening of US input in the North would be “completely unacceptable” to Irish-Americans. “A special envoy continues to be vital and necessary,” he said. “Wholehearted American support and involvement will also be vital in resolving the upcoming issues of policing and devolution.”

And a telling quote from Barack Obama’s campaign fact sheet on Ireland [pdf file].

“Barack Obama understands that there is not a monolithic ‘Irish American’ vote.”

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  • borderline

    Hey Pete,
    the whole idea of this site is that you leave some room for comment.

    But when you sum it up as succinctly as that……

  • joan

    if my memory serves me right niall o’dowd wasn’t too far away from sean donlon’s position on the provos when he started the irish voice, i.e. he wouldn’t have one around the place so he is in no position to criticise anyone else. let’s face it, the man has made a fool out of himself over hillary, first when he backed her against obama and now over the envoy issue and that probably explains his bad temper – the real mystery is why rte and the irish times continue to consult someone so badly out of touch and so intent of pursuing his own agenda at the expense of the facts – incidentally his contribution history for 2008 was money given first to hillary, then when she lost the nomination he gave money to mccain – only when it was clear that obama was going to win did o’dowd give money to him – i think the democrats can consider him a fair weather friend while the rest of us can think him absurd!

  • joan

    incidentally here is o’dowd’s contribution record in 2008 and before which i forgot to enclose:

  • joan

    if that doesn’t work go here: http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml and type in his name

  • David

    I love the way that O’Dowd has to type “neo-unionist” before Stannage’s name almost every time he writes it, he wouldn’t want any of the Irish American faithful reading Stannage without knowing in advance that he is a really bad man. Of course he doesn’t link to Stannage’s article just in case. After all it is best not to confuse people with to many (or indeed any) facts.

    I also note that he states that Stannage is a product of “Methodist College”. Goodness, maybe Stannage is one of those evil interloper Protestants too…

  • joan

    since niall o’dowd’s brother is a prominent member of the pro-treaty, pro-unionist, anti-republican, blue-shirt fine gael party, perhaps we should all start describing o’dowd as ‘fine gael-linked niall o’dowd’? what i found fascinating about his U.S. financial contributions is that he gave hillary $5,000 to help clear her post-election debts and still he got nothing back.

  • Hi again everyone,

    As you don’t need me to tell you, this debate has dragged on for quite some time.

    I just completed a lengthy-ish blog posting on my own website that I hope will be my final word on the subject for a while. Hopefully those of you who have been following the story might find it interesting, especially as it pertains to my supposed ‘unionism’, and to the broader question of the supposed Irish vote in the U.S.

    Anyway, it’s here:




  • Pete Baker

    Thanks Niall,

    But I can’t seem to get the text of your post to appear at the blog.

  • Hi Pete,

    You’re the second person to say you’re having trouble in a short time. I just double-checked, and for some reason I can’t see it when I use Explorer, yet it comes up fine in Firefox and Safari. If you have one of those, maybe you could check it that way. In the meantime, I’ll get someone who knows more about the tech side than I do to try to get it sorted out.

    Sorry about the inconvenience.


  • Pete Baker

    Thanks Niall.

    Got it now with Google Chrome.

  • Pete Baker

    Btw, one additional detail perhaps worth noting is that in 1999 the fundraising behemoth that is the organisation Irish American Democrats received a donation of $300 from one Niall O’Dowd.

  • Pete Baker

    And perhaps what Stella O’Leary was referring to with Joe Crowley was O’Dowd’s donations to his campaigns.

  • Clay Davis

    Birds of a feather flock together … Stella O’Leary’s inflated sense of importance is on par with O’Dowd’s. She laboured under the illusion for quite some time that she would be the next Special Envoy should Hillary be elected.