New Chief Constable revealed

A “unanimous” decision apparently. Bookies favourite, and current chief constable of Leicestershire, Matt Baggott is the new PSNI Chief Constable. From the BBC’s candidate profiles

Leicestershire Constabulary chief Matt Baggott narrowly missed out on becoming head of the West Midlands police earlier this year. He is a strong advocate of the type of community-style policing favoured by the Northern Ireland Policing Board, the PSNI’s independent scrutiny body which will ultimately select Sir Hugh’s replacement. He spent the first 20 years of his service in the Metropolitan Police and later became assistant chief constable in the West Midlands. He worked with former PSNI Chief Constable Sir Ronnie Flanagan on the National Review of Policing. He is president of the Christian Police Association, and vice president of the National Association of Police Chaplains.

Hmm.. Adds More detailed profile here.

  • The Raven

    When will the first fair employment challenge kick off? 🙂

  • Scaramoosh

    He worked with former PSNI Chief Constable Sir Ronnie Flanagan…

    He is president of the Christian Police Association…

    and vice president of the National Association of Police Chaplains….

    Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear.

    A clear case of For God and Ulster then.

  • meet the new boss

    We’ll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgment of all wrong
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    And I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again

    Change it had to come
    We knew it all along
    We were liberated from the fall that’s all
    But the world looks just the same
    And history ain’t changed
    ‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    And I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    I’ll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    For I know that the hypnotized never lie

    Do ya?

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss

  • borderline

    Sick of these foreign chiefs.

    War didn’t work, but peace isn’t working either.

  • eranu

    If hes going to continue the “community-style policing favoured by the Northern Ireland Policing Board” he might as well not bother taking the job. we need someone who will crack skulls, not someone who has his police force sitting in their cars and watching rioters, or standing watching mobs kick someone to death.
    it has been said after some of the recent trouble events (i think by the chief constable himself) that no other police force would have shown the restraint that the PSNI have. but what that actually means is that every other police force in the world would have taken action and dealt with the trouble, the PSNI not taking action makes them the most useless police force in the world.

    i wish the new chief well, but if hes going to bring more of the same then dont bother.

  • Bemused

    Brilliant – a molly-coddling jesus-freak – just what we needed.

  • cynic

    ” Sick of these foreign chiefs.”

    Hes not foreign. He’s British like the rest of us.

    Oh OK…I am just winding you up. But equality means that the best candidate wins. You wouldnt want discrimination against English people on racial grounds, would you?

  • ken

    do ye think he takes a drink ?

  • abu nicola

    No doubt our resident religious fanatic will be writing to this fine Christian gentleman as soon as possible to warn him about the presence of the antichrist in our midst.

  • gerry adams ha ha ha

    Can’t wait to hear the Shinners try to sell this as a step towards unity. Another Brit running the RUC PSNI. Pathetic.

  • iluvni

    Which candidate did Alex Maskey vote for?

  • Pete Baker

    iluvni

    “A “unanimous” decision apparently.”

    That “unanimous” was a quote from Policing Board chairman Barry Gilligan.

  • wild turkey

    ‘When will the first fair employment challenge kick off? 🙂 ‘

    Raven, just curious.
    Which unsuccessful candidate do reckon has a potential tribunalcase and on what basis; religion, politics,race/nationality,sexual orientation?

    I’m assuming that 50/50 recruiting does apply to PSNI appointments at this level. Only joking on that as I was thinking of the tale when Groucho Marx was told he could not become a member of a certain country club because jews were not allowed in the swimming pool.

    He responded to this with a question.

    ‘My kids are half jewish, can they go in the pool up to their waists?’

    ‘No doubt our resident religious fanatic will be writing to this fine Christian gentleman as soon as possible to warn him about the presence of the antichrist in our midst. ‘

    Abu, perhaps you will consider writing the new capo and warn him about Slugger.

    Over and out

  • Pigeon Toes

    “No doubt our resident religious fanatic will be writing to this fine Christian gentleman as soon as possible to warn him about the presence of the antichrist in our midst.”

    Now, now thats unfair on Pete

  • meet the new boss

    Alex Maskey voted for
    a.Not the ex Branch guy
    b. The ‘community based’ waffler

    The rest voted for their sky pixie worshipping nutter.

    James Anderton mixed with Derek Nimmo.

    Oh well, public sector management nonsense(consenus building, blue sky thinking etc)a go go, trite platitudes, hand wringing procastrination etc get you to the top.
    Jackie McDonald will be pleased. Applecarts firmly embedded.

  • Pete Baker

    “Alex Maskey voted for
    a.Not the ex Branch guy
    b. The ‘community based’ waffler”

    Ah, so that’s what you think accountability looks like.

  • The Raven

    Wild Turkey, I was being facetious. On a more important note, it’s nearly 100% cloud cover this evening. Damn.

  • Pigeon Toes

    “Over and out” is an incorrect combination, since the two statements contradict each other

    “Over — I have finished talking and I am listening for your reply. Short for “Over to you.”
    Out or Clear — I have finished talking to you and do not expect a reply.”

    Just to be pedantic ….

  • Pete Baker

    “On a more important note, it’s nearly 100% cloud cover this evening. Damn.”

    Indeed, Raven.

    But there’s always tomorrow..

  • Pigeon Toes

    Pete, could you keep to the topic ….

    (Although have youngsters huddled with telescope and blankets)

  • 6countyprod

    Nice to see that no one is playing the man here, eh, Pete?

    Judged, condemned and executed before he even gets to speak one word.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Meetthenewboss,

    And indeed it would seem that Mr Baggott has been trained in “Leadership beyond authority”

    http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/resources/masterclass.aspx

  • Pete Baker

    6cp

    “Nice to see that no one is playing the man here, eh, Pete?”

    We try our best.

  • meet the new boss

    http://www.lovelyjane.btinternet.co.uk/bullshit.htm

    My bet is on ‘consensus building’ for August.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Meet the new boss

    Now you are just being completely “unhelpful” to “the process”. You are obviously under some kind of “stress”, and that such remarks are an “error of judgement”.

  • borderline

    It’s time for the nationalists (Irish ones, that is) to pull out of this farce of a process.

    I’d rather Ronnie Flanagan at this stage, at least you knew where you stood with him (convicted of being a taig, usually).

    Walk out of Stormont and all the rest of it.

    No guns or bombs (that was worse), keep our moral laws but break every possible British law and regulation, and take what we can from the failed state.

    Fuck ’em and their English bobbies sent over to enforce John Bull’s laws.

  • cynic

    My borderline, what a racist little rant just becasue he’s English. Havent you heard the SF line that you cannot be a Republican and a Racist?

    Anyway, I suggest you pursue your policy and hold only to your moral laws. Then we can see if Mr Baggott is any good at locking you up for breaking the others.

    PS

    1 if you drive can you please let us know when you and your fellow travellers are about. Crossing junctions on traffic lights (English invention you know, so damn them) will be very dangerous when you are around but thankfully the risk will soon be self-limiting

    2 if you run any sort of food store can you please put up a sign on the door indicating that you no longer obey British Food Safty Regulations so that at least we know. That salmonella may then kill us but at least as we lie retching our last we will know that it is OUR salmonella

  • michael

    Traffic lights and food?
    Coffee then post.

    I wonder if the new guy will be all Jesus, or all James Anderton.

  • Mayoman

    Hate myself for doing this (shouldn’t rise to such easy bait!)! 😉 Cynic, there’s a case that it was a US man who invented traffic lights.

    http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/trafficlight.htm

    So borderline can rest easy knowing he is not ‘safe’ on account of the english! 🙂 By the way, you remind me of this fella! 🙂

  • Big Maggie

    Good luck and best wishes to Matt Baggot.

    No doubt he knows by now that his name’s a spoonerism :^)

  • YelloSmurf

    C’mon, most of the critism levelled at this bloke seems to be because he’s a Christian. If that’s the worst thing that you can say about him then he should be fairly good at the job.

  • meet the new boss

    Our ‘troubles’ here were caused by Christians. Would have thought someone who supports evidence based opinions would have been more suitable.

    I suppose his mentor James Anderton (Gods’ copper)was effective though.

  • Big Maggie

    meet the boss,

    “Our ‘troubles’ here were caused by Christians.”

    No denying that. I’ve no problem with supernaturalists occupying important public positions. But let them leave their irrational beliefs at home every working day and not have them intruding on and—inevitably—colouring their decisions.

    There are enough ayatollahs in the world to be getting on with.

  • Neil

    Anyone catch Maskey getting doorstepped by an irate Republican on Nolan this morning?

    ‘You stole your mandate of the back of the Hunger Strikers’ in response to Maskey’s statement that SF has a mandate unlike the ‘so called’ dissident groups.

    Two things on that, apart from the caller’s comeback which was sensational IMO, one careful what you wish for Alex, I’m starting to think these guys could do real damage to SF in the polls. Two: ‘so called dissident groups’; why so called? Is it the opinion of some within SF that dissident is not the correct term? Perhaps Alex is letting the mask slip?

  • YelloSmurf

    Christianity did not cause our troubles, bigotry caused our troubles, religion was just an excuse.

  • Ole doll

    Re Bemused, how long do you think it will be before they name him Bilbo Baggot?

  • Big Maggie

    YelloSmurf,

    “religion was just an excuse”

    Yes, I’ve heard that excuse a million times.

    Ole doll,

    I keep wishing he called himself Matty Baggot, then my spoonerism would be complete :^)

  • blinding

    I hope he can find a role for former Metropolitan Police Commander John O’Connor.

    This man seems to have good ideas on improving the performance of the PSNI.

  • Mind your ‘batty’ language, Big Maggie – and your Cockney Rhyming Slang 🙂

  • borderline

    Two unfortunate examples there cynic. That’s what happens when the red mist comes down.

    Mayoman tripped you up at the traffic lights and the food safety laws happen to be one of the extremely few areas which have an all-Ireland approach.

    So, it’s cheeseburgers all round, and a give that one that’s been hanging around a couple of days under the flies to that bloke with the English accent and short haircut.

  • borderline

    Oh, I nearly forgot, the racism.

    I don’t like Englishmen running my country. Black ones. Brown ones. Pudgy white ones.

  • Driftwood

    I don’t like Englishmen running my country.

    Well, we have a Scotsman running it at present, but that will change next summer.

    We did have an English woman running our country here for many years, the best PM since Churchill, bless her.

  • borderline

    Driftwood,

    call it “the country”, “my country” or even “an integral part of the United Kingdom”.

    But don’t call it our country, ‘cos it ain’t mine.

    “My passport’s green. / No glass of ours was ever raised! To toast The Queen”

  • Driftwood

    Bit childish borderline, I have an Irish passport, as well as a UK one. but Biffo’s writ has no power in this jurisdiction whatsoever.
    I know a few Irish nationalists that are not unduly worried by that fact. And a few unionists that regard the Royals as soap opera.

    I quite liked Garret Fitzgerald actually. Decent spud.

    Take it you’re cheering on Ponting & co at the Oval then.

  • “Biffo’s writ has no power in this jurisdiction whatsoever.”

    Apart from those occasions when Bruno rubber-stamps Biffo’s ‘writ’, Driftwood 😉