Introducing the Drummully Polyp or Salient…

Hat tip to Ciaran for this one… Strange maps is a peculiarly compelling site… This post concerns a peneenclave on the border called Drummully and home to 92 souls in 2006… it was subject to a question in the Dail, when during the troubles, the Irish Army had to use helicopters to fly its soldiers in to man check points on a road that had no direct ground vehicle access from the rest of the Republic… If you know more about the area its history and life there during the troubles, then let us hear below?

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  • Mick,

    It’s worse than it looks. Although the N54 is cut off from the rest of the south by bits of Fermanagh, there is one particularly unfortunate farm (at Annaghraw) that is in county Cavan, but right at the neck of the salient, and just outside its gate, in both directions the road (a local one) disappears into Fermanagh!

    Other farms, at Clonnestin, Clonshanvo and Clonrye, though in Cavan, have no access whatsoever to the rest of Cavan, as their lanes go into Fermanagh before they even reach the local road!

    What a mess. I guess these parts of the border were largely ignored by the various armies, who probably adopted a more rational line of control further back.

  • willowfield

    Shows how ludicrous it was to use counties as the units for creating NI.

  • dub

    or shows just how ludicrous the creation of ni was in the first place;)

    seriously, willowfield, what demarcation method would you have used?

  • willowfield

    As small a unit as was practically possible, obviously.

  • fin

    the lives of many farmers were blighted by border roads blown up the BA and the resulting often long trips to get to land only a short distance away.

    When the locals took to filling the craters in the BA used large concrete cubes/bollards, the locals took to dragging them across the border, resulting in many BA helicopter trips down to the border with new ones.

    this sort of activity as opposed to watching TV resulted in much lower levels of obesity around the border in fermanagh

  • foreign correspondent

    The solution to this anomaly is simple. How about having a new Border Commission which actually does something this time?
    My initial proposal would be to redraw the border just north of Rathlin Island and just east of Larne…
    Er, on second thoughts, maybe just slightly west of Larne 🙂

  • eimear

    Many’s the GAA fan that has crossed the border four times in a few minutes on that stretch of road, on their way to a match in Clones.

  • Greenflag

    willowfield ,

    ‘Shows how ludicrous it was to use counties as the units for creating NI.’

    Indeed . But then in the context of the time it was what they had and the electoral system was built on counties so they worked with what they had .

    The next partition or should I say ‘repartition ‘ will have to ignore county boundaries to at some extent .e.g North Armagh/South Armagh and North Down/South Down obviously heading for separate jurisdictions . Best a neutral international agency is entrusted with the task . Can’t be left to the Ulster Unionists or the IRA to sort out . We all know where that would lead .

  • picador

    OMG NO!!!

  • Greenflag

    picador ,

    Are you ok ? Has the Dow Jones collapsed or wha ?

  • picador

    No, but I was looking at the demographics for Craigavon Borough Council area and the RCs down there have been breeding like vermin.

  • Paddy Matthews

    As small a unit as was practically possible, obviously.

    Which would have resulted in a lot more enclaves or near-enclaves.

  • PaddyReilly

    I was looking at the demographics for Craigavon Borough Council area and the RCs down there have been breeding like vermin

    Yes don’t they just? They also multiply in a manner that brings to mind Rabbit Island. The trouble is many people, Greenflag in particular and Unionists in general, are living in the demographic past. It’s amazing how quite small changes in the balance of the population will create unsurmountable obstacles to their plans.

    The reason for enclaves and paene-enclaves of this sort is usually that in the dim and distant past national or adminstrative boundaries followed property ones. In a rational society such sillinesses are eliminated: England no longer owns any part of mainland France (Calais was the last to go) and obviously the sea is the appropriate boundary for Ireland.