No body wanted to clean up the mess left by republicans.

I know we’ve had a number of threads concerning the release of the state papers under the thirty year rule, but RTE have a pretty good round-up of the contents of the papers released yesterday. In this report the dirty protest is described by the secret papers as a desperate attempt to gain support and sympathy from the general public.
Ian Paisley also complains that Loyalist prisoners working as orderlies were being asked to clean up the mess left by republicans, and even the Prison Officers’ weren’t happy to do that. While Roy Mason asked if strip searches were really necessary.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    “No body wanted to clean up the mess left by republicans”

    The purchase of the steam cleaner seems to have resolved this very significant dispute…..

    Of somewhat more import is Callaghan’s statement showing resistance to DUP pressure for concessions.

  • Intelligence Insider

    The best way to deal with the dirty protesters was always changing their cells. Whilst they could get used to the smell of their own shit, someone elses always made them wretch. It’s just a pity this didn’t become a prison regulation, making them change cells every 2-3 days, as I bet their protest would have stopped long before the suicide of their criminal colleagues.

  • Greenflag

    unintelligent outsider ,

    ‘as I bet their protest would have stopped long before the suicide of their criminal colleagues’

    Now that other surviving colleagues from those troubled times share power and sit in Ministerial chairs at Stormont we can see in hindsight the utter stupidity of the Government response to the political status issue in those troubled times . Not only have the former prisoners won ‘political status ‘ but some are now part of NI government .

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Greenflag,

    I agree with you the GFA illustrates that they were fundamentally correct to resist criminalistation but unfortunately it took a prolonged campaign of even greater violence for the Englezes to recognise this.

    Intelligence Insider

    It is an interesting point about other peoples shit – are you suggesting the prison authorities were deliberately not implementing this policy for the prisoners welfare? Presumably it was more likely to spread disease?

  • Greenflag

    IWSMNWDI;

    ‘but unfortunately it took a prolonged campaign of even greater violence for the Englezes to recognise this’

    Thus giving even more credence to the locally imbibed ‘tradition’ that as you call them the ‘Englezes’ only ever listen to the ‘gun’ when they won’t face ‘reason’

  • Billy Fish

    Given his ‘understanding’ of ‘armed struggle’ one can only hazard at what was the nature of the deed ‘Sammy McNally’ ‘done’.

  • Flechet

    @Greenflag

    Now that other surviving colleagues from those troubled times share power and sit in Ministerial chairs at Stormont we can see in hindsight the utter stupidity of the Government response to the political status issue in those troubled times . Not only have the former prisoners won ‘political status ‘ but some are now part of NI government .

    That’s like saying that because a former thief comes out and becomes a successful businessman that thieves shouldn’t be treated as thieves.

    Who they were wasn’t the issue, what they were doing was, and more to the point what they are now not doing. Sinn Fein have ministerial positions due to them being voted in by enough people. At the time however the IRA were an outfit seeking to blackmail using murder and economic damage, a government, so that a part of the state containing a minority who supported them could be annexed without the consent of the majority living there. A means to an end morality equivalent to murder and an end in itself morally equivalent to rape.

    There is no essential hypocracy by the British government here.

    One wonders if Sinn Fein would support political status for RIRA and CIRA criminals in the present day and if not why not? If there is hypocracy to be found then that’s where you’ll find it.

  • Padraig

    Sometimes perceptive comments, sometimes mindless grunts…