Who speaks for Alliance?

This morning Kieran McCarthy was on Nolan to complain about how useless the Executive is. He mentioned how they were doing nothing on home repossessions, so Nolan pushed him on what he would have them do. He said the Alliance would have the state pay for mortgages to prevent repossessions. Asked at least twice if this was Alliance policy, the answer was “yes”, despite being unable to say how much this would cost. At the end of the show, an Alliance statement was forthcoming, stating that this in fact is not the case. Which is odd.

  • Ann

    Yeah I heard that. He made a right fool out of himself, it was quite obvious that he’d rang up to criticise the other parties and when he was pushed on something solid he was at a loss. The reason of course, as was quite clear, he’d made it all up on the hoof.

    I’ll bet he’s in the brown stuff with the party. He’s succeeded singlehandely to make them look eve more foolish than normal. And he hadn’t got the sense to shut up!!

    It was soooo entertaining.

  • Rory

    It was indeed rather odd. Was this fellow not aware that state benefit is already available to those in need to meet the interest payments on mortgages on their homes in order that they might avoid eviction?

    The justification given is that the alternative would be rehousing in the public sector and the rent being paid from housing benefit. Admittedly there was some resentment at this in yesterday’s market conditions when house prices were spiralling and someone was sitting in an ever increasing asset at state expense and I did know one fellow who was claiming and receiving interest payments on an absolutely whacking mortgage.

    We can toss around the pros and cons of this policy all day (and no doubt some will) but it is decidedly strange that a politician should be unaware of it. Or at least it would be until we learn that it is an Alliance politician and then we all go, “Aahh!”

  • Michael Shilliday

    The reason of course, as was quite clear, he’d made it all up on the hoof.

    That is a scurrilous accusation which he denied himself. How dare you even suggest such a thing.

    Honestly.

  • Ann

    Of course he denied it,

    Asked at least twice if this was Alliance policy, the answer was “yes”, despite being unable to say how much this would cost. At the end of the show, an Alliance statement was forthcoming, stating that this in fact is not the case.

    He also said what Alliance policy was twice but that was not the case…

    Scurrilous accusation????

    LOL

    It obviously entered other minds when he was asked about it.

    I’m still laughing…..

    Sure aren’t we lucky that our taxes pay such people?

    Great comedy.

  • DC

    Yes I do agree it is odd being out of sync like that, but no more as odd as seeing Reg Empey, once spearhead of ‘Vanguard’ (Ulster a Nation anyone?) now spearheading his own visionary credentials that involve moving the UUP towards the middle ground national Conservatives. Now that seems bizarre in terms of judgement. We have Reg saying no to Sunningdale due to compulsary power-sharing, then thinking about Ulster a Nation, then compulsary power-sharing under the GFA and now buying back into national politics as the be all and end all!

    But back to the topic, yes, I suppose with Kieran it is act in haste and repent at leisure, especially from an MLA who still carries on paying double the market rental value to his own wife in relation to his constituency office expenses.

    It’s Orwell’s Animal Farm with Alliance, it would seem. Oh and I failed to mention Trevor Lunn and how, even though he was once a big and wealthy insurance broker, he sought advice on whether he could pay rent to himself from his own office cost allowance.

    Just like charity, moralising begins at home.

  • Driftwood

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7265618.stm
    Yup, Kieran is more qualified to talk about the rental market.

  • frustrated democrat

    DC

    The world changes and those who don’t change with it become as dinosaurs.

    Ask the DUP if you need confirmation, they are the world experts in the field of chameleonism, if such a word exists. However don’t ask Allister as he isn’t.

  • Dec

    Sure aren’t we lucky that our taxes pay such people?

    Should add “…and their spouses”.

  • fair_deal

    NI politician makes up policy which invariably involves ‘government doing something’ on ths spot shocker, although it is rarer for them to be so clearly caught out.

  • Is it Alliance Party policy to bring down the price of a pint? If not, why not?
    The hard drinking Ulster public has a rite 2 no.

  • nineteensixtyseven

    Alliance, lol.

  • Hugo

    It is, perhaps, worth noting here that the State already stops people’s homes being repossessed, albeit through Westminster funding.

    According to a DSNI leaflet dated October 2008 (http://www.dsdni.gov.uk/is8.pdf),in Northern Ireland, the Government will already pay the interest on the first 100k of your mortgage, if you are in receipt of Job Seeker’s Allowance or Job Seeker’s Benefit (and/or some other social welfare benefits and allowances) and you have been in receipt of such benefits/allowances for more than 39 weeks (my understanding is that the UK Government very recently announced that that qualifying period will be reduced to 3 months in the New Year).

    In practice, banks do not foreclose on those homeowners who are in receipt of this payment from the State.

    So, the Government not only already helps a certain subset of people who have mortgages and are in receipt of certain allowances/benefits in Northern Ireland, it also, effectively, prevents those who form part of that subset from being evicted for being in mortgage arrears (ie. the difference between a mortgagor’s repayment, including interest and capital, and what the Government will pay in certain circumstances – the interest).

  • DC

    “DC

    The world changes and those who don’t change with it become as dinosaurs.”

    Well at least dinosaurs have substance, the DUP are now scondrels as they used to preach the principle of keeping the faith and going the distance in terms of its opposition to Sinn Fein. Which you would think would mean not going into office as part of finishing the political course, based on DUP principle.

    They have now compromised their party principle in doing so compromising the authority they used to have linked to its fundamentalism, it would appear, in keeping with NI politics and its elite consociationalism, that in the end Paisley and indeed Robinson politics is just sophisticated egoism.

    Like Iris too, they just love getting their little voices heard and people asking them what they think about things because they like feeling important and standing out.

    The sheer lack of any future agenda on intelligent socio-economic proposals shows this stance up.

    For example, 5 months spent over arguing “at all times” – this was just face saving at its worst.

  • The Alliance Party

    from an MLA who still carries on paying double the market rental value to his own wife in relation to his constituency office expenses

    No he doesn’t. This is categorically incorrect. Please do not repeat the allegation.

  • jj

    McCarthy on Nolan this morning was without the doubt the funniest thing i have ever heard on live radio! What a total plonker!!

  • they thought nothing of redesignating for the day – so no big surprise…

  • Mashed Potato in a Sock

    Where’s comerade stalin. He(or she- I must be PC) loves defending Alliance Tripe

  • Carson’s Cat

    Quote the funniest piece of radio I’ve heard for some time. Yes Northern Ireland politician caught on on the “something must be done” nonsense – hopefully its a lesson that all sides will take note of.

    Whilst Alliance of course got their ‘party’ disclaimer in right at the end of the programme it isn’t the first time they’ve been caught out without having done any sums. Didn’t the Finance Minister chastise them during the Budget Bill for having tabled motions within the first couple of months of the Assembly, which if heeded would have spent the entire block grant.

    Her Majesty’s opposition wouldn’t get away with such rubbish at Westminster and we really shouldnt let Ford & co get away with it just because on constitutional issues they might happen to annoy most of us less than other parties. Supposedly their USP is that they do “real” politics – but their grasp of those seems to be loose to say the least

    That said however, clearly today wasn’t one of their “top tier” performers out on the radio and he no-doubt was off on a solo run. However, that’s still no excuse and Alliance’s answer to most things seems to be to spend lots of non-existant cash on it. Its a wonder McCarthy didn’t claim that all the money to fund this nonsense couldn’t have been found through mythical “costs of division”.

    Coming from a member of just about the most pious political party on earth it was, at the end of the day, just comedy gold!

  • jone

    “from an MLA who still carries on paying double the market rental value to his own wife in relation to his constituency office expenses”

    No he doesn’t. This is categorically incorrect. Please do not repeat the allegation.

    So ‘The Alliance Party’ I can safely assume you’ve served a writ on the BBC or at least complained to the BBC Trust and Ofcom seeing as they published this stuff nine months ago?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7265618.stm

  • Michael Shilliday

    Actually Jone, “Alliance Party” tell us that it incorrect to say that he is STILL paying his wife twice the market rate for his office. They do not deny that he used to until at least he was caught. Perhaps the could come back and tell us what the situation actually is now before making such bald demands.

  • Peter Brown

    Michael

    Let the Party that is without sin cast the first stone on family members…

  • Michael Shilliday

    Peter,

    I’m a person, not a party.

  • Granni Trixie

    OK – so the guy made a mistake….but from what you all say, at least he was amusing.Personally, I view Kieran McC as a decent,down to earth bloke.

    To the many who regard Alliance as like a religion, booboos like this keep them on their toes.

  • i have to pay my rates

    At a meeting in the Holyland tonight where representatives of the UUP, DUP, Alliance and SF were present a member of the public pointed out that approximtely £3 000 000 (£3 million) worth of rate free income is handed out to landlords every year and that approximately 13% of the Council’s budget in Belfast has to be spent in the Holyland (cleaning up the waste created by the rate free houses). This is not exactly each to their need is it? The same person pointed out that there was no reduction in rents to take account of no rates so the landlords kept all the money from everybody.Go figure.

  • 2050

    Alliance are fast becoming a joke. Lost all respect for them after they failed to offer up a minister for P&J;leading to the DUP/SF stand off.

    Lets hope the the voters remember this in future elections. What a complete waste of a vote.

    New totally neutral political party required with intelligent costed policy’s

  • Just Wondering?

    The Alliance Party has cautioned us not to repeat comments about Mr McCarthy’s rent arrangements. That fine by me.

    Is it alright with the Alliance Party if we say that we think their MLA from Strangford is a dim witted individual who thought that he was being clever and that he would please his party leadership by going on the Nolan show to rebuke all the other parties and then fell victim to a few Nolan specials that exposed Mr McCarthy and his party to the total ridicule of the entire listening public? Just thought that I should check before I say it!!!!!

    Is he the Alliance Party spokesman on housing matters? Is he the Alliance Party spokesman on anything after today?? Will we still him peering over David Ford’s shoulder when the leader is being interviewed on TV at the big house???