Fans banned for poppy protest claims

Celtic supporters opposed to the club’s endorsement of the poppy appeal claim the club has banned some of them from Parkhead. Three republican groups TAL Fanzine, the Green Brigade and Cairde na Eireann encouraged fans to walk out in protest at the decision to have players wear poppies and have a minute’s applause in memory of the fallen. The Club denies the allegations.

  • Shore Road Resident

    I read this yesterday and was most struck by the image of a 45-year-old man fretting over this childish nonsense. Of course, he is a “civil servant”. Plenty of time on his hands, obviously.

  • iluvni

    I se the TAL fanzine gift shop has a lovely tshirt with an Irish terrorist gunman upon it, Celtic and Ireland.
    Shameful that Celtic permit this filth to come anywhere near their ground.

  • Ranger1640

    I see republicans relentless move to politicise everything are bringing more and more politics into sport they started with the GAA now they are turning there attention to Celtic football club and Celtics small act of remembrance for service personnel before a football match and with a poppy emblem on the teams shirt. This speaks volumes for the republican movement. Hardly a republican ideal of live and let live, it’s more the republican mantra of nothing British and protestant about the place.

    Then John Reid chairman of the board at Celtic, waded in on the Andrew Marr show saying the future monarch of the United Kingdom should not be a protestant and women should have more equality in the monarchy as it was discriminatory, to follow that theory through then the pope should not be a roman catholic or maybe they should have an official woman pope next time.

    I as a working class protestant have no clam to the papacy, but I don’t spend all my waking hours wanting to be.

    It’s about time that republicans understood that the UK has had a protestant history for over 500 years and a protestant royal descendant for over 300 years. If they want equality start in there own basilica first, as the pope has been a man and a roman catholic for 1700 years (using Constantine as the first pope in 325AD) if they want equality start with fixing the issues in their own discriminatory system.

  • Shirley McGuffin

    Start with kicking Celtic out altogether. Ungratefuls should be made wear the Poppy. On or out.

  • Bemused

    Nothing to do with the substance of this thread but really, Ranger1640, one would have thought that the writing and spelling abilities of, at the very least, an average twelve year old are an obvious pre-requisite to posting on this or any other site. As I’ve said on other threads – the standard of written and spoken English in the North is abominable.

  • Dec

    se the TAL fanzine gift shop has a lovely tshirt with an Irish terrorist gunman upon it, Celtic and Ireland.

    I couldn’t see that. Perhaps you could provide the actual link?

  • pat

    ‘Shameful that Celtic permit this filth to come anywhere near their ground.’

    I’m afraid their is an awful lot of ‘filth’ around Glasgow and perhaps it’s time people got real about the large numbers involved in sectarian, racist & violent behaviour.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6463821.stm

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23402-glasgow-rangers-fans-must-take-action-uefa-cup-aftermath-the-shame-of-the-few

    Perhaps the SFA would be better spending it’s time trying to properly address the continuing sectarian problem, rather than worrying about teams having poppies on their shirts.

    Also worth noting that Kilmarnock never bothered having a poppy embroidered onto their shirts & other clubs didn’t even have a minute’s silence.

  • Dec

    I see it now though it’s on the Cafepress site which appears to be US-based.

  • Democratic

    Is anyone really surprised by any of this – Celtic supporting by enlarge just seems to be an extension of the Irish Nationalist political identity into sporting concerns much like the (Northern)GAA.
    None of that should really be a problem to anyone in anyway mind provided that is as far as it goes and protesting against the poppy is acceptable if not personally agreeable – but what struck me was two funny things after a quick look at the “TAL” site – the first was their defination of sectarianism – they have anti-Irish racism in brackets alongside….no doubt this is simply the only form of sectarianism which the faithful come across in their travels…..
    The second was when I highlighted their Celtic against Fascism and Racism section which led to a pic of balaclava adorned men marching – to be honest I was unsure whether this represented the Racists, the Fascists or an Irish Republican commemorative parade of which the faithful judging by their domain name would be all for….

  • Ranger1640

    Bemused, I did not realize I was back at school posting here and that I was getting my grammar and spelling marked.

    I did however; think I was adding my comment on the subject. The next time I post a comment I will make sure I don’t do it in a hurry, as not to offend your obvious love of the English language or you’re obvious delight in finding fault with my post.

    Please feel free to grammatically dissect my post, so I can avoid making is same mistakes in the future!

    How about leaving a post on the subject Bemused?

    Others beware Bemused in not amused!

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “I se the TAL fanzine gift shop has a lovely tshirt with an Irish terrorist gunman upon it, Celtic and Ireland.
    Shameful that Celtic permit this filth to come anywhere near their ground.”

    This is appalling and very disappointing of the current SPL Champions Celtic FC and some of their supporters.
    Especially when one considers that the club was always somewhat impartial when it came to religion and politics. I’m sure the great Celtic Protestant manager Jock Stein would be very disappointed with all of this!
    Celtic fans should drop the sectarianism and any references to religion and politics, despite the old taunts from their rivals Rangers, which should be expected but not matched!

  • Dec

    I did however; think I was adding my comment on the subject.

    The subject? Several subjects certainly, but not the subject.

  • doctor

    “This speaks volumes for the republican movement.”

    The “republican” groups in question seem to be assorted groups of celtic supporters clubs with a republican orientation rather than the “republican movement”. But it fits well with the unionist view that there is a monolithic republican movement with a hive mind. Hence whenever a twelve year old in the Ardoyne sticks his tongue out a passing Orange march he is obviously working under the direct orders of Gerry Adams and the army council.

    On the other hand, of course, every idiotic action or comment by a unionist politician, paramilitary or Orangeman is merely expressing their own personal opinion and is in no way (necessarily) endorsed by the wider unionist family. Ahem…

  • darth rumsfeld

    .. zackly like no Republican would ever use the actions of a very few people in the NI support who boo Neil Lennon or indeed a few orangemen who may have links with paramilitary links to extrapolate the sympathies of the whole
    Ahem indeed

  • Ranger1640

    Dec, I was not aware you attended the same school as Bemused. However, as for my part in not understanding the subject of the article I apologise.

    However, I thought the article was on the reaction to Celtic football clubs, endorsement of the poppy appeal by a minute’s applause, the poppy emblem on the team’s shirts, and the republican supporters of Celtic football club, who walk out being, banned form Celtic football club’s ground.
    The heading of the article was titled: Fans banned for poppy protest claims.
    I brought my thoughts to the board, in that republican supporters of Celtic football club felt the need to politicize the poppy and the clubs small act of remembrance. I then expanded on the subject by bring to the board and the posters attention, that John Reid, Celtic football club’s chairman, had brought up the subject of the Act of Succession on the Andrew Marr show on Sunday morning.
    The two subjects may not be closely related however, I thought it was interesting that when republican supporters of Celtic football club were politicizing the symbol of remembrance in the poppy, their chairman was voicing views on the Protestant Succession to the British Throne.
    Let this be a lesson to other posters on this board. It’s not just a place to add comments and view but you will be marked on your grammar and spelling.
    The fact that you may have something relevant or not as the case maybe, to add to the debate, is nether here nor there, as long as you ensure that you’re posting is grammatically correct and you’re post is passed by the spelling police.

  • TrueBlue

    Ranger1640….were you 1641 you could claim that your number was in memory of the thousands of innocent Protestants murdered in Ireland in that year, by the ancestors of those who support the republican terrorists on this board.

    We will remember them !!!

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “….by the ancestors of those who support the republican terrorists on this board”

    …..this statement is totally unfounded unless you can trace the actual bloodlines of all the original perpetrators!
    For all the ancestors of the original perpetrators may have actually died in the Great Famine of 1845 – 1850!

  • Martin

    It is what happens when you have followers from Ulster as the One Stop Ulster Shop was selling UDA badges.

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    Let’s rephrase that…

    For all the descendants of the original perpetrators may have actually died in the Great Famine of 1845 – 1850!

    After all, I wouldn’t want to confuse you!

  • “The Club denies the allegations”

    More to the point the club would not address the specific allegations made against them.

    But what would I know?

    I only wrote the piece…………..

  • Ann

    Look at this

    After flying for about an hour, an announcement was made that sack lunches were available for five dollars. It would be several hours before we reached Chicago, and I quickly decided a lunch would help pass the time. As I reached for my wallet, I overheard soldier ask his buddy if he planned to buy lunch. ‘No, that seems like a lot of money for just a sack lunch. Probably wouldn’t be worth five bucks. I’ll wait till we get to Chicago ‘His friend agreed. I looked around at the other soldiers. None were buying lunch. I walked to the back of the plane and handed the flight attendant a fifty dollar bill. ‘Take a lunch to all those soldiers.’ She grabbed my arms and squeezed tightly. Her eyes wet with tears, she thanked me. ‘My son was a soldier in Iraq ; it’s almost like you are doing it for him.’

    This could never happen in NI because they aren’t seen as ‘our’ army by all the people, hence the rucus over poppies. Buying a poppy is seen as support for soldiers who have served here. It’s the way the thing is politicised. I wonder if we’ll ever get to the stage where this could happen on a plane from Belfast?

    I know I couldn’t make this gesture. Not for the filth that served in the royal irish at any rate, and I hesitate to buy a poppy in case it would go that way too.

  • Big Maggie

    MyTuppenceWorth

    Yes, did anybody blog this? I don’t know what the British Legion are playing at electing this criminal. This is what he got up to:

    At his trial, it was revealed that Mr Patton [the new chairman’s victim] had been killed for failing to hand over the proceeds of a robbery to the UVF.

    The trial was told the victim had been taken to a field where he was shot, beaten and had his throat cut.

    They can stick their poppies up their arses next year as far as I’m concerned.

  • Doctor Who

    Ann

    Fuck me you fell for that old chestnut, i´m an old soldier trick.

    Then again it´s not so hard to fool someone with a republican mindset, after all Sinn Fein are going to deliver an UI by 2015, aren´t they.

    Fancy taking me to Deane´s for dinner sometime, on you of course as I have to save for my mummy´s operation.

  • Ann

    after all Sinn Fein are going to deliver an UI by 2015, aren´t they.

    I never fell for that one dr who 🙂

    Fancy taking me to Deane´s for dinner sometime, on you of course as I have to save for my mummy´s operation.

    Love to, but times are hard and things are bad….:(

  • fair_deal

    “This could never happen in NI because they aren’t seen as ‘our’ army by all the people”

    Yes it could, one of the section who does support it would be happy to do it.