My post box is Green…

Whoever painted this post box in Armagh needs to do a quick colour check with the latest pillar box fashion in Dublin and all points south. A southern reader notes in an email:

I found it really fascinating that young Shinners are now doing something which was not too long ago cited as an example of how supposedly superficial and skin-deep the Republic’s independence was – presumably before An Post had the money to replace the majority of ER’s embossed postboxes!

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  • NEW Danny Morrison slogan: “With a paint can in one hand and a paint brush in the other ….

  • Ann

    Theres 40 shades Mick..:)

  • slug

    Are they still running their campaign not to use PostCodes on their letters?

  • An Ceilleachaireach Rua

    Weeell, quite a few VR, ER and GR post boxes are still in place down here, 86 years later.

    Ógra SF will no doubt be pickled by the fact that the colour they’ve chosen for their little campaign is virtually identical to the colour of early Free State army uniforms (1922-40)

  • They at this bullshit again? Some people need to grow up. And read some James Connolly.

    Rather appropriately, my codeword is red.

  • An Ceilleachaireach Rua

    …No stamp of ours was ever licked to praise the Queen…

  • George

    Slug,
    yes there is continued resistance to postcodes. We love our townlands, so we do. We have had them for the guts of a millenium you see and replacing them with a number seems so soulless.

  • paint a post box green….

    and then buy a stamp with the queen’s head on it with money with the queens head on it

    put it in a green box with the royal motif on it…

    Ulster is safe…. back to my scone….

  • slug

    I see they have painted it RUC green.

  • Sneakers O’Toole

    Boys will be boys. In London being in the wrong postcode can get you stabbed.

    Thi is our own little gang problem; I find all this a little embarrassing but funny none the less.

    Reminds me of the painting over of the “London” in Londonderry road signs.

    Bizarrely, some loyalists have responded by painting out the “Derry” in their respective road signs, leaving signposts all over Northern Ireland directing us “London – 8 Miles”

    Silly symbolism is fine with me, as long as they aren’t bricking each other.

  • ‘The greening of local post boxes are simple actions that allow young people to express their nationality, highlight that they live in Ireland and harmonise the colour of our post boxes north and south.’

    I for one would like to thank Ogra Shinn Fein for this important initiative. Driving around Northern Ireland’s highways and byways and surveying its arid, dusty plains and parched canyons, one would be inclined to mistake it for Arizona, or perhaps even the Sahara, so we need the green postboxes to remind that we are indeed in Ireland.

  • ‘harmonise’

    they have been watching too much X Factor

  • ggn

    I would like to take the oppurtunity to comment on this issue.

    First of all I would like to answer the enivitable charge which will be leveled againist me.

    “Elitist Gaeilgeoir”

    Fine. I dont care. C’est la vie.

    Ok, that is out of the way, Ógraí – would ye not be safer of spending the time learning Irish.

    Would ye not be safer finding out what your townland is called and using it – after all it is a superior system. I.e Maigh Luain ‘plain of the lambs’ is known in English as BT9!

    Would ye not be safer finding out what the true Gaelic spelling of your townland is and using that?

    Would ye not be safer finding out what the original form of yer own name is and using it rather than the name your masters have given you and your family?

    Ok, ok, I know, its the Brits fault and the DUP. Here lads and lassies, last time I looked there was no British blockade of the Cultúrlann or Cumann Chluain Ard.

    Here’s a website from Des Bishop, free your own minds, then think about painting post-boxes.

    http://www.desbishop.com/

  • Glencoppagagh

    It’s easy to laugh and sneer at this but aren’t we talking about the youth wing of a party that’s in government and ostensibly in support of the rule of law.
    Are they not committing criminal damage and is this behaviour endorsed by their leadership?
    Probably the next stage is that those who object to redecorated letter boxes will start setting the contents on fire.

  • and SF will be first in our local paper calling for an extension of postal services after another one closes…. yet the og’s cost the service money having to repaint so many boxes….

    pah!

  • DC

    What next, scribbling out the euro signs on ‘Free State’ notes and tipexing out the Queen on notes in the north?

    Maybe not, that would be too costly for themselves, hurting their own pocket!

  • Wilde Rover

    Slugger needs an Irony Award.

  • DK

    Have they run out of Orange Halls to burn down?

  • An Ceilleachaireach Rua

    Well, they could just leave them green. It is a nice shade of green after all…

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    That’s definitely RUC uniform green! Leonard O’ & Michaelangel O’ are probably coloured blind or else they used up some cheap paint for the prank!

    Regarding the painting of the post boxes in the south after independence, well it was a visually quick and easy solution. Didn’t want to to deface the architectural merits of the lovely old cast iron post boxes either. Besides such remnants like the royal coat of arms can still be seen in Eire today on the fine old colonial buildings of yore!

  • justinohagan@hotmail.com

    They engaged in the same revolutionary activity in Newcastle, Co. Down (http://www.mourneobserver.com/160408news03.html)

    “Activists have been engaged in the greening of post boxes across the north in the previous week, to assert proudly and very visibly that we live in Ireland, and our post boxes should be green,” said a Sinn Fein spokesperson.

    I hope that next they’ll replace all the “Give Way” signs with genuine Irish “Yield” signs, measure all distances in KM and put shrines to the Virgin Mary at convenient crossroads.

    God save Ireland from the heroes!

  • the future’s bright the future’s orange

    The silence from SF is deafening…

  • dunreavynomore

    garibaldy,
    you said it. Didn’t Connolly warn of the futility of changing flags, colours, symbols, without root and branch dismantling and rebuilding of the ruling system? But, sure, what the devil do S.F. care about Connolly now, didn’t martin, the deputy, ring the bell in N.Y’s stock exchange and doesn’t that tell us exactly where S.F. is at today.

  • Jen Erik

    Brilliant. I’m off to Farrow & Ball, and will then assert my identity as an Alliance voter by painting my local post box a tasteful shade of Ointment Pink or Chinese Blue.

  • Congal Claen

    Hi ggn,

    “Would ye not be safer finding out what your townland is called and using it – after all it is a superior system. I.e Maigh Luain ‘plain of the lambs’ is known in English as BT9!”

    No you wouldn’t. They’re 2 completely different things. Postcodes designate the route that a postman uses to deliver letters. Letters/postal delivery routes didn’t feature when naming townlands. Therefore knowing that some area was named “plain of the lambs” is of little to no use compared with a postal code to a postman and ultimately yourself.

  • darth rumsfeld

    mind you, in twenty years time these criminal damagers will be getting grants for this, and going on tours to the oppressed masses of inner city Britain holding workshops on how to use..er British racing green.. to express their Irishness

  • Jamie Gargoyle

    So, can we expect to see the reappearance of those oh-so helpful “Bruscar” labels on bins next…?

  • eranu

    “The silence from SF is deafening… ”

    thats because they’re all down at B&Q;getting the right colour mixed up !

    i dont know what it is about shinners, they dont seem to be aware of the concept of making a complete cock out of yourself. the idea being to stop before you actually make a cock out of yourself.
    if they’re not googling statues to see if they can be offended or not, or gettig enraged at the site of an olympic flag, then they’re painting things green. no doubt muttering something about being oppressed while doing it.
    i think it might be decades of trying to be opposed to the state thats done it. now they cant go out the door without objecting to something, even a postbox !

  • dunreavynomore

    What has the Green party to say about this? Those guys painting in Armagh were doing a very’slabbery’ job with green paint running into the information panel! Come on you Greens, let’s have your opinion on this IMPORTANT green issue.

  • neil

    “The silence from SF is deafening… “

    Not really, they’ve been vocal in their support of this – they are calling it a protest.

    thats because they’re all down at B&Q;getting the right colour mixed up !

    If only it was the right colour. As Darth said, that’s a bit dark of a shade of green. Still, it’s nice to see the odd green post box, variety is the spice of life as they say.

  • The Royal College of Surgeons and the Royal Dublin Society still stand…

    Maybe OSF could send some of those lads south, some An Post boxes could well do with a lick of paint.

  • TwilightoftheProds

    Why don’t they just paint the deputy First Minister green, to remind everybody that he is a Republican?

  • The depressing thing is not so much that these people do this, but that people still vote for them in huge numbers.

  • Jonathan McCullough

    Royal Mail should simply stop collection of mail from these vandalised post boxes. It’s about time some of these criminals were given a spell at Her Majesties Pleasure.

  • Dec

    The depressing thing is not so much that these people do this, but that people still vote for them in huge numbers.

    Some people spend half the year marching up and down streets, banging a big drum and then burn effigies believing it’s the last thing in cultural chic. Some people paint post boxes green.

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “Royal Mail should simply stop collection of mail from these vandalised post boxes. It’s about time some of these criminals were given a spell at Her Majesties Pleasure.”

    Indeed, or how about bringing back hanging for this, the most heinous of crimes! Bloody young terrorists!

    Hold on, maybe they’re just getting things ready for the World Cup in South Africa, certain that both of Ireland’s teams qualify.

  • Dec,

    I couldn’t agree more. They are all idiots, and it’s depressing that people in NI love it. You get the politicians you deserve.

  • Democratic

    “Why don’t they just paint the deputy First Minister green, to remind everybody that he is a Republican?”

    Lol…..classic!

  • Terrible Terri

    Once Gerry Kelly becomes in charge of Policing and Justice this will all go away and all Catholics will become law abiding.

  • Rory

    But, George, postcodes do not need to be a replacement for your traditional townland names which you quite rightly are proud of and keen to retain; they can be used simply as an additional line to your postal address which allows you to retain your traditional names and allows for electronic sorting. Not all progress needs be destructive.

    Anyway the important thing is that local street artists are given free rein and that any criticism of their effort should be artistic and not political (if you can manage that).

  • Steve

    I have to say if the worst they are getting up to is a little paint on a big iron box it hardly seems worht the mention

    I mean they could be going through the province hanging up attery oold rags on lamp posts…… oh wait thats already being done

  • George

    Rory,
    but we it wouldn’t be an additional line, it would be a superfluous one and in these hair shirt times, Ireland can’t afford such frivolities.

    And we sort electronically over here already. Technology has obviously moved on since your days hauling sacks.

    Anyway, a lot of our sorters aren’t from these parts (the ones who still have a job at any rate) and don’t even know where BAC is never mind Drumshambo so electronic sorting is most certainly a plus.

    The people pushing this are those who want to send us junk mail and need the postal codes for a more targeted barrage.

    Smart post is all it is. Now I’m off to uncover some other conspiracies.

  • ulsterfan49@googlemail.com

    What is all the fuss about?
    These youngsters or Street artists are vandals while some of their leaders are criminals. Is there a great difference?
    SF will have to sort itself out as they have come full circle by administering British policy in Ireland which is not surprising when you think that on the night the party was founded in Dublin the meeting finished by singing God Save the King.
    They have found a home at last.

  • borderline

    George,

    tut-tut, Drumshambo!!!

    An even worse anglicization than Drumshanbo.

    From Droim SeanBhó.

    More fascinating info at http://www.logainm.ie on placenames nationwide.

  • Pancho’s Horse

    Magh Luain – plain of the lambs?????????????

  • Now that Postman Pat has a helicopter, presumably he could strap a couple of miniguns on it to “take care of” those responsible “in an Al Pacino sense”

  • hovetwo

    “mind you, in twenty years time these criminal damagers will be getting grants for this, and going on tours to the oppressed masses of inner city Britain holding workshops on how to use..er British racing green.. to express their Irishness”

    Of course, British Racing Green IS an expression of Irishness, since it was created in grateful appreciation of the lenient Irish authorities who allowed the forerunner to the British Grand Prix (the Gordon Bennett Cup) to be held in Ireland when no local authority on the “mainland” would deign to host it. Hence the racers changed the colour of their cars in tribute…..

    Oh hang on, post boxes are ALSO an expression of Irishness, since Anthony Trollope had a key role in inventing them while stationed in Ireland. In fact, his tenure with the post office in Ireland was the making of him – without it, we wouldn’t have had the Pallister series, Phineas Finn, oh hang on, maybe that wasn’t such a good idea.

    Ho hum, Desperate Housewives is about to start on RTE2, ages before Channel 4 air it. If ever there was a good reason for a United Ireland…..

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    ha ha…..Well summarised, hovetwo!

  • George

    borderline,
    thanks for the link very interesting.

    In my humdrun past I once counted the entire population of Drumshambo/Drumshanbo so feel a certain attachment to the place although I have never been.

  • hovetwo

    Oh yes, I forgot – the original standard British colour for the postbox was – green (from 1859 to 1874). It was changed to red because the green boxes were felt to be too unobtrusive – people kept walking into them.

  • I dont care

    Why the hell does anyone give a flying f whatever colour these boxes are? Letters go in and still arrive at the destination theyre addressed to. I know I couldnt give a sh*te. I dont see the point of people from both sides getting wound up by a bit of paint. Nothing better to do with their lives i guess

  • sammaguire

    What’s the problem with having a green post box in Armagh?? I remember seeing the post being removed from a Dublin post box a few years ago into a bag clearly marked Royal Mail and I didn’t get my knickers in a twist over it!

  • cynic

    Are they getting another grant from Margaret Ritchie for this as ‘community renewal’? Everyone else seems to be.

    But don’t worry, there will be ‘rigorous checking’ but not ‘appraisals before approval’ ’cause the Shinners don’t want that. Why could that possibly be when it’s public money?

  • Democratic

    “What’s the problem with having a green post box in Armagh??
    What’s the problem with having a red post box in Armagh??

  • I dont care

    “What’s the problem with having a green post box in Armagh??
    What’s the problem with having a red post box in Armagh?? ”

    These are my sentiments exactly……It doesent make any diffenerence what colour post boxes are … therefore why would anyone care either way

  • riskjab

    sinn feins assembly speeches get delivered into these post boxes, they need to be careful they dont get banned from using the post boxes

    what will the sinn fein speakers do now when they have to stand up in stormont with no sheet of paper to read from.

    what other parliment in the world would you see politicians reading their arguments of a piece of paper

    its embarassing

  • Paxo

    Back to their original colours then