“I couldn’t possibly put it as bluntly as that..”

The DUP’s Gregory Campbell, MP, MLA, interviewed on BBC NI’s Hearts and Minds on how yesterday’s non-deal with the government will affect future discussions. The title quote comes in response to Noel Thompson’s question on the devolution of policing and justice powers, “you’ll say ‘Well, hold on Gordon, you owe us one..'”

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  • Ulick

    Couldn’t put it as bluntly as that, but still has the arrogance to inform us plebs that the plural for ‘stadium’ is ‘stadia’. What a dick. Well Greg I prefer ‘stadiums’, but that could be down to my poor Catholic grammar school education. This man is going to be an embarrassment as a minister.

  • DC

    9 votes = majority rule!! This is Alliance-style Belfact City Council idiocracy.

    Wake up! This is pathetic.

  • LURIG

    Loved Shirley William’s quote on Question Time about Unionist MP’s. “The Undertakers of Parliament. They only show their faces when a government is about to die”. Hilarious but so true. Apart from the 2 Tories and the Labour minister on the panel EVERYONE else, especially the audience, had TOTAL contempt for Unionism and it’s dirty deals. This is the Britain that Unionism feels so attached to and loves. In fact Britain despises Unionism and DOESN’T even consider it British. The British public look at Ireland North & South and see ONE island with ONE people. They reluctantly play along with the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland nonsense until numbers make it history and reunification inevitable. Well done Shirley, well done the Question Time audience for telling the truth.

  • DC

    Hear, hear..c*nts will always be c*nts!

  • observer

    Listen to the republicans squeal, its great.

  • DC

    Move on observer…both politically and emotionally please.

  • observer

    #

    Move on observer…both politically and emotionally please.
    Posted by DC on Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:26 PM

    SQUEALLLL………oh coming from the guy who has to revert to the C word SQUEAL………………………

  • DC

    Yea, coming from an ‘anal retentive’ – hate to be cleaning out your cage 😉

  • Dewi

    In hate to say it it but I think Campbell at least has got a head on him. Here we effing go !

  • DC

    “I think Campbell at least has got a head on him”

    A frothy one.

  • Pete Baker

    Guys

    Put the handbags down.

    And play the ball.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Greg is a great bloke. He’s a bundle of laughs too. I’d say having a few jars with him would be great craic. I’m sure he’s well up too regarding culture, arts and sport. Vermeer, Holbein, John Luke; Vivaldi, Handel, Derek Bell; Yeats, Joyce, Gary Mitchell: Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz, Mary Peters; I’m sure thst it’s all his forte and his knowledge is unfathomable! Wonder what he’ll do with Windsor Park. The ball is in his court now!

    Just a footnote: Weren’t the Campbell clan in Scotland the treacherous bunch who had the McDonalds slaughtered in their beds under the cover of darkness. Oh dear!

  • observer

    Squeal……………………. last week Gerry was baring his chest , threatening to pull everything down, Gordon told him to Bog off and now the DUP are Gordos best friend…Bye Gerry……..SQUEAL…………….

  • picador

    The ignorance about Norn Iron expressed by the Question Time panel and audience is profound.

    The DUP did not prop up Major or Callaghan.

    Paisley only opposed internment because he realised that it could be applied to loyalist.

    15 unionist MPs resigned on a point of principle following the Anglo-Irish agreement.

    But worst of all … the DUP has on many occasions been highly ambivalent on the subject of terrorism. But then again Britiah terrorism does not exist!

    Who was the airhead token black female TV presenter? BBC dumbing down and doing PC embodied in one person. She said nothing of note.

    Anyway time for This Week with Daine Abbott. This should be good!

  • LURIG

    Wonder what the concessions the DUP got were? 42 days detention…………but for Taigs & Muslims only with the added dimension that Loyalist paramilitaries will continue to walk in and out of the revolving doors CIRCUS that purports to be justice in the North of Ireland. If the DUP was so concerned about TERRORISM why haven’t they expressed their outrage and anger when these Loyalist death squads continue to make a mockery of the judicial system? It’s the double standards and hypocrisy that annoys Nationalists & Republicans……..as well as the incompetent nodding dog politicians in Sinn Fein & the SDLP who pretend to represent the Catholic community.

  • interested

    Gregory Campbell’s version of “you may say that but I couldn’t possibly comment”. Fantastic!

    We all know what’s winding the junior Provos up on this site.

    Not only have the DUP got them tied down at Stormont, but their last hope of getting bailed out was at Westminster and that looks like its gone t*ts up now as well.

    Now, how exactly will Gerry persuade Gordo to give Northern Ireland an Irish Language Act? Makes the UUP statement that there will be a Westminster imposed ILA covering broadcasting etc look a little bit feeble too now doesn’t it……

    But above all the Shinners are caught with their pants down. They promised the faithful an Irish Language Act. They promised the faithful the devolution of Policing & Justice. They then got caught out for their poor negotiations when it became apparent that the DUP had closed off those routes by ensuring they could block both of those through the devolved instutitions.

    That only left Gerry & co calling for “Brits in” to sort them out. That looks a little bit like p*ssing in the wind now of course so where will they go?

    Can’t imagine George Dubya is going to give them much encouragement on Monday either!!!

  • DC

    Interested…bow to the Queen you subservient asswipe, move on and grow up, for the sake of your children, idiot.

  • observer

    Interested…bow to the Queen you subservient asswipe, move on and grow up, for the sake of your children, idiot.
    Posted by DC on Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:57 PM

    SQUEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • DC

    Ma’am, ma’am…pathetic!

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “It’s the double standards and hypocrisy that annoys Nationalists & Republicans……..”

    True, and this has always been the case; the playing of the Orange Card in the past; the raw deal Irish folk always seemed to have got. It helped create the republican monster. If only Unionists could have compromised a little bit.

    Hey Interested – No need to blag about the defeat of the ‘Irish Language Act’ stupid, because if you regard this part of the world as part of the ‘British Isles’ then you will have to accept that the ‘Irish language’ is an ancient ‘British ‘language as I have said before many times before. But probably you and Greg Campbell will not be able to understand the contradiction of the concept.

  • observer

    No need to blag about the defeat of the ‘Irish Language Act’ stupid, because if you regard this part of the world as part of the ‘British Isles’ then you will have to accept that the ‘Irish language’ is an ancient ‘British ‘language

    The native language of NI is English, not irish DOH!

  • Pete Baker

    At the risk of repeating myself..

    Play the ball!

  • interested

    DC
    Maybe bowing to Her Britannic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is the only way Gerry is gonna get his Irish Language Act and the devolution of Policing & Justice!!!

    Ha ha ha…. He could get a knighthood in the process maybe too!!!

  • observer

    DC
    Maybe bowing to Her Britannic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is the only way Gerry is gonna get his Irish Language Act and the devolution of Policing & Justice!!!

    Ha ha ha…. He could get a knighthood in the process maybe too!!!
    Posted by interested on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:09 AM

    Hes already accepted British Rule, a British Parliament, A british police force and british courts, its only a matter of time…

  • LURIG

    Interested,

    You may be surprised to hear that I agree with some of what you say. Last week the bearded one marched Stormont Sinn Fein up to the top of the hill over the Robinson nomination…….and in typical traditional Paisley style, marched them down again. It WAS quite a humiliation and made the Shinners look VERY weak, ridiculous, ineffective and pointless. The DUP came out of Downing Street looking and sounding stronger. Undoubtedly the DUP COMPLETELY control the Stormont Assembly and Sinn Fein & the SDLP are once again reduced to ineffective bit part players like the old Nationalist Party of the 1930’s. They might get the odd crumb but the incompetence and weakness of this current crop of Nationalist politicians has ensured that Stormont is very much a Unionist parliament for a Unionist people once again. The 42 day detention vote has further copper fastened the DUP grip on Gordon Brown and his administration, they hold Labour by the balls as they can call this favour in for a few years yet. Adams, McGuinness & Durkan may as well sit at home for the foreseeable future as they will be chocolate fireguards with NO influence or power within Stormont OR Westminster while Brown holds power.

  • DC

    The actual ‘national minority’ hold Irish as an indispensable and integral party of their identity. Ya know, observer, – ‘national minority’. The ‘first they came’ approach wont work, observer.

    However, neither will absolute nationalism, particulary along ultra-SF nationalism, but it’s pathetic to see you bending your knee and bowing like an idiot crying: ‘ma’am, ma’am – can I ask’…ffs!

    Move on – together, time to grow up.

  • observer

    The actual ‘national minority’ hold Irish as an indispensable and integral party of their identity. Ya know, observer, – ‘national minority’. The ‘first they came’ approach wont work, observer.

    Good for them, theres plenty of books they can learn irish from

    SQUEAL………………………..

  • observer

    The actual ‘national minority’ hold Irish as an indispensable and integral party of their identity.

    Says who?

  • DC

    Says the electorate who voted along republican and Irish identity political lines!

  • interested

    Forgive me for interrupting again. Just watching Brillo & co on ‘This Week’.

    They have Kelvin McKenzie expressing happyness with the Counter Terrorism Bill and the best person they can get to oppose it (aside from Diane Abott, and fair dues to her, the speech she made was fantastic), is a violinist.

    I wonder who knows more about the mood of the British people, the former editor of a newspaper which famously sniffed out the public mood and then claimed to have influenced it or a bloke with dodgy hair and a suspect accent..

  • observer

    #

    Says the electorate who voted along republican and Irish identity political lines!
    Posted by DC on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:22 AM

    If you belive that every voter who voted for SF or SDLp voted because they want an ILA then you`re even more deluded that Gerry Adams was last week.

    SQUEAL……………………………………..

  • Steve

    DC
    You are just feeding the trolls

    Let them march triumphant around their phyric victory

  • Dewi

    Shared future hmmm

  • interested

    Dewi
    That would be Shared and better future actually….

    Pedantry may be irritating, but accuracy is important…

  • observer

    #

    Shared future hmmm
    Posted by Dewi on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:25 AM

    Dewi, wheres the shared future in our educational system as Ruane ignores the majority of parents who wish to retain academic selection. Seems this shared future only works one way

  • interested

    Kelvin McKenzie has just said he would consider running against Davis in the election!!!

    It just gets funnier all the time.

  • DC

    ‘DC
    You are just feeding the trolls’

    Largely off old Unionist vomit, but they need to go and read more books to be ‘learnt’. Bless’em!

    These guys are used to eating TV-meals, following microwaveable instructions, just like their political masters who burn them with high voltage rhetorical waves, without any real prolific results.

    Move on, suckers!

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “No need to blag about the defeat of the ‘Irish Language Act’ stupid, because if you regard this part of the world as part of the ‘British Isles’ then you will have to accept that the ‘Irish language’ is an ancient ‘British ‘language

    The native language of NI is English, not irish DOH!”

    Oh dear, the cultural ignorance in this little part of the world. The word ‘Amadán’ comes to mind.
    We protect our ancient heritage, our ancient cultures, tc… whether it’s art, architecture, music, literature or language, etc….

    Obviously you are totally oblivious to this.

    Another one in the sinking boat of cultural ignorance bliss.

  • observer

    DC
    You are just feeding the trolls’

    Largely off old Unionist vomit, but they need to go and read more books to be ‘learnt’. Bless’em!

    These guys are used to eating TV-meals, following microwaveable instructions, just like their political masters who burn them with high voltage rhetorical waves, without any real prolific results.

    Move on, suckers!
    Posted by DC on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:30 AM

    SQUEAL…………………

    What ever did happen to Gerry Adams??

  • observer

    Oh dear, the cultural ignorance in this little part of the world. The word ‘Amadán’ comes to mind.
    We protect our ancient heritage, our ancient cultures, tc… whether it’s art, architecture, music, literature or language, etc….

    Obviously you are totally oblivious to this.

    Another one in the sinking boat of cultural ignorance bliss.
    Posted by Greagoir O Frainclin on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:32 AM

    Sorry youre talking about Irish culture, wrong country for a start , but good for you. Keep up the culture stuff, you`ll be Oirish one day

  • Realist

    Just watched the H&M;interview with Gregory Campbell. He complained about Ulster MP’s being sidelined in the past. The truth is the lazy gits sidelined themselves by being part time MP’s, spending half a day a week in Parliament. They fly in and out of London on the same day unless they have some shopping to do or a football game to attend. Gregory said that they were voting on an issue that impacts on the whole nation but their debating and voting record on other issues that affect England, Scotland and Wales is hopeless. They normally couldn’t give a toss about the affairs of State of the entire nation and have earned themselves the title of semi-detached members of the United Kingdom.

  • DC

    “What ever did happen to Gerry Adams??”

    I don’t fully know, but what happened Ulster whenever it was replaced legally by a democratically-functioning Northern Ireland, with culture, respect, equality, stability and multi-party governance and Irish speaking MLAs as a norm; coupled, of course, with an almost continous sympathetic and supportive British government.

    Do you even know how to spell Europe and indeed homosexuals and furthermoe, quality of life???

    But, I bet, you can bow without thought and mind to a grey-haired Queen, sad 🙁

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Sorry youre talking about Irish culture, wrong country for a start , but good for you. Keep up the culture stuff, you`ll be Oirish one day”

    Ha ha …where are you livin’? …is it northern IRELAND?
    BTW when did the history of northern IRELAND begin. Was it when the Planters arrived?

  • observer

    Do you even know how to spell Europe and indeed homosexuals and furthermoe, quality of life???

    But, I bet, you can bow without thought and mind to a grey-haired Queen, sad 🙁
    Posted by DC on Jun 13, 2008 @ 12:42 AM

    SQUEAL………..
    And as for Irish Speaking MLAs LOL have you heard Adams LOl

    SQUEAL……………………

  • DC

    Observer, your clipper needs a shake and your ashtray needs emptying, but I’m sure you wouldn’t haven’t any other way, because you’re a mess just like Unionism.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Observe a fixation with Gerry Adams!

    All this squealling is kinda like a scene from Deliverence!

    Fuck Adams!

  • Mick Fealty

    Greag,

    “All this squealling is kinda like a scene from Deliverence!”

    Indeed. This is just about the worst case of serial ‘man playing’ we’ve seen in a while here on Slugger. It reflects pretty badly on all those who’ve indulged themselves in it.

    Obs and DC,

    That will be a Yellow Card to both of you. Keep it up, and I’ll happily make it a RED!

    As one of you has said: ‘Move on suckers’!

  • Danny O’Connor

    Bearing in mind historical miscarriages of justice,I dread to think of what could happen in the future,bearing in mind that most of these were during 7 days.How would any of us react in such circumstances.Even if you are released without charge after 42 days of detention and intensive interrogation,it would be very hard to get back to normal,and,despite your innocence being preserved the no smoke without fire attitudes will be very hard to overcome.I have no problems with parties doing deals on most things,in fact good luck to them,it is good politics,but some things should not be for sale-the right to being innocent until proven guilty,the right to a fair trial(which this bill de facto abolishes given that parliament will have to vote which will put this all in the public domain)without prejudice.You could be next

  • Bigroary

    It must really bug the DUP that the Britsh, who they want desperately to be, really dont like them at all, they,ve made no friends at all in Westminster, only enemies with long memories,I dont know how that really helps the cause of NI !!! I did like the remark by Shirley Williams today that the DUP are like undertakers, showing up at the death of governments.Gordon will go or be ousted soon, hes just too crap, and then the shoddy deal they made will be just a memory, the enemies in Westminster will still be there though. So much for the DUP as political geniuses, yer havin a larf

  • Gordon will go or be ousted soon, hes just too crap, and then the shoddy deal they made will be just a memory, the enemies in Westminster will still be there though

    If those “enemies” need the Dupes in the future, then there’ll be a sudden outbreak of collective amnesia all round- sorry, but that’s the way realpolitik works…

  • Suilven

    Shirley Williams showed herself up as a senile old crone last night. Clueless as to the distinction between DUP and UUP, clueless as to which way Unionist parties might naturally lean on the 42-day issue (did she really say at one point they had an anti-internment policy?). She’s clearly been rotting away in the House of Lords for far too long.

    Best panellist of the night for me was the Sun’s political correspondent, though quite why that comic requires one is beyond me.

  • Paul

    “Bearing in mind historical miscarriages of justice,I dread to think of what could happen in the future,bearing in mind that most of these were during 7 days.How would any of us react in such circumstances.Even if you are released without charge after 42 days of detention and intensive interrogation,it would be very hard to get back to normal,and,despite your innocence being preserved the no smoke without fire attitudes will be very hard to overcome.I have no problems with parties doing deals on most things,in fact good luck to them,it is good politics,but some things should not be for sale-the right to being innocent until proven guilty,the right to a fair trial(which this bill de facto abolishes given that parliament will have to vote which will put this all in the public domain)without prejudice.You could be next ”

    Danny while most level-headed people will agree with this i think that you underestimate the level of shear ignorance out there regarding the ramifications of such a bill. That said i would strongly prefer if you and others just left the British to enact what they like and use whatever influence and power you can muster to focus on extricate ourselves from the Union and focus on re-unification.

  • ulsterfan

    As a Unionist I am not too worried about Shirleys views as I have heard her criticise Tories and New Labour more vehemently.
    Any way she is a great old timer from the days when Labour had a social conscience. Long may she continue to give us her views.

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    >>Shirley Williams showed herself up as a senile old crone last night. Clueless as to the distinction between DUP and UUP, clueless as to which way Unionist parties might naturally lean on the 42-day issue (did she really say at one point they had an anti-internment policy?). She’s clearly been rotting away in the House of Lords for far too long.<

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘Undertakers of Parliament’…..great.

    Observer, “you sure got a purty mouth…..!”

  • “Undertakers of Parliament’”

    The slogan of a local election candidate here some years ago ended, “The Last Man To Let You Down”. He was an undertaker 🙂

  • RepublicanStones

    Its a dying trade Nevin.

  • DC

    “Obs and DC,

    That will be a Yellow Card to both of you. Keep it up, and I’ll happily make it a RED!”

    Mick, you know referees can be wankers too, so why act like one?

    My own mitigating circumstances are your own peculiar and biased comments about the DUP and its specious victories, over that of rationality.

    But, you are a journo, you gotta mix it up, don’t punish just sit back and appreciate diversity of opinion, apologies if it ended up going low; however, if you want to red card, red card me and yourself for a couple of days so we can both get some sleep and clarity. I believe, you are up to your tricks and are pumping out nonsense to suit your interests i.e. financial.

  • DC

    Oh, and just before you block my IP, the last time I was red carded (and banned) was whenever I ribbed Chris Donnelly, so just to clarify, I only rise when the smell of shite is in the air.