Gay activist gets in the ring with DUP…

A spokesman for a gay rights group has said it is “entirely justifiable” that members of the DUP are ‘outed’ in the wake of the row over Iris Robinson’s controverisal comments. David Allison said: “We have always supported the protection of people’s privacy who lead a double life, where they are gay but maybe still have a family. However in circumstances where you are a member of a political party which openly espouses homophobia than we think it is entirely justifiable that members of that party be outed.” I can think of at least one DUP Assembly member who is gay; I think he’s entitled to his privacy, so I won’t name him – but if members of his party continue to make dangerous and derogatory remarks about homosexuality, it’s probably only a matter of time before it all comes out. I suppose the fear is that this happens like Sinn Fein and ‘informers’ – names are wrongly bandied about, muddying the waters and causing unnecessary distress. But maybe that is Allison’s aim. “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you,” eh, Iris?

  • There’s only one you can name, Gonzo?

  • jolly roger

    Outrage condones and facilitates infidelity then.

    the violation of a spouses right to dignity, and the compromise to their sexual hygiene are of no importance just as long as outrage can facilitate liars and cheats in the lifestyle that they seek to promote. Disgusting elitism at its worst.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Fraid so. Just looked through the list and realised how many of the new DUP MLAs I wouldn’t even recognise.

  • Dessertspoon

    No Gonzo I don’t think that is ever a justifiable act. It is bullying dressed up with a few dubious principles. If no-one is being hurt, abused or committing an illegal act what right do you have to ‘out’ them. Live and let live.

  • jerryp

    Dessertspoon,
    The problem is the hypocrisy involved , being a member of a hate – filled party while engaged in the actions which those bigots regard as an abomination.

  • Dessertspoon

    Jerryp,
    That’s one of the dubious principles really. Didn’t we all know how they (DUP) felt about this issue before?? It seems to me that as long as they didn’t say anything about it it was all ok. Now one of their number has spoken out we have all this anger and talk of ‘outing’. While the DUP may be hypocrites so are we and I don’t see how forcing someone who is struggling with his/her own sexuality out into the open when they obviously can’t deal with it makes the situation any better.

  • “I can think of at least one DUP Assembly member who is gay; I think he’s”

    Ach. i had the fingers crossed for Michelle McIveen.

  • Greenflag

    dessertspoon,

    Live and let live. True. Butwe must also laugh and let laugh .

    ‘If no-one is being hurt, abused or committing an illegal act what right do you have to ‘out’ them.’

    None. Outing will happen anyway if not by Gonzo then by some journalist or more likely given proportional representation a political rival .

    Scene 1 (prior to outing)

    5 DUP members including one MLA were arrested at an anti gay protest and arraigned before the court for behaviour and language abuse likely to lead to a breach of the peace.

    The judge said to the first.

    ‘What do you do when you’re not protesting young man ?’

    ‘I’m a cork soaker’ said he
    ‘A what ‘ said the judge a bit taken aback .

    ‘I work for a bottling company and I’m in charge of seeing the corks are properly soaked so they’ll fit into the bottles ‘

    Turning to the second defendant the judge asked again

    ‘And what do you do when you’re not protesting young man ?’

    ‘I’m a cook seeker your Honour . I work at an employment agency that finds cooks for those who need them .

    Turning to the third defendant the judge now red in the face asked

    ‘What do you do when you’re not protesting young man ?’

    ‘I’m a coke sacker your honour’ he said . I put lumps of coal into sacks before loading them on to the van.

    Turning to the fourth defendant the judge now very red in the face asked

    ‘What do you do when you’re not protesting young man ?’

    ‘I’m a sock tucker your Honour ‘ replied the fourth defendant . ‘I put tucks in socks before they’re put into boxes ‘

    Turning to the MLA the judge now moaning softly asked

    ‘And what is it you do sir when you’re not protesting?’

    ‘Your Honour I’m the real thing ‘said he

    I’ve heard of flogging a dead horse but somehow flogging a dead mare takes longer .

  • Dave

    The gay community should condemn its own members who engage in blackmail as means of promoting censorship of any criticism of that community. Do they really think that seeking benefit from blackmailers gives them the high moral ground?

  • ZoonPol

    Well there is circumstantial evidence on a senior member of the Orange Order and a few DUP MLAs, not sure about the UUP but I got a juicy rumour about what happened at Westminster once…

  • PeaceandJustice

    Iris Robinson views are shared by many people in Northern Ireland. It’s not about hating anyone – and no one should be discriminated against because of their sexuality. But people are entitled to their views.

    As regards the DUP’s ‘partner’ in Government, Sinn Fein PIRA portray themselves as a homosexual friendly party. So have any of them came out? Or too afraid of the traditional Roman Catholic vote?

  • Different Drummer

    Well Dave out and about again I see

    You don’t like someone outing gay DUP members – a lot of gay Loyalists were very miffed that P_____B______ was outed.

    Chief among them being the DUP leaders who would sought to bring him before a kangaroo court on the suspicion that he had been more deceitful that they are…

  • nineteensixtyseven

    “As regards the DUP’s ‘partner’ in Government, Sinn Fein PIRA portray themselves as a homosexual friendly party. So have any of them came out? Or too afraid of the traditional Roman Catholic vote?”

    But they’re not the party spouting the homophobic hate. You can turn everything into an attack on Sinn Fein.

  • PeaceandJustice

    To nineteensixtyseven – it’s a legitimate question – who are the homosexual members of Sinn Fein PIRA? If none of them have come out, then why not – as they regard it as a normal practice?

  • We have heard assertions that alleged “homophobia” in the DUP contributes to attacks on gay people. So if someone is outed by the odious Mr Allison and that person commits suicide or suffers the same fate as the Rev. Templeton, will the same blame be attached to those who did the outing?

    As I have said elsewhere, self-proclaimed progressives are often the most illiberal of all.

  • no one should be discriminated against because of their sexuality

    The DUP opposed the Sexual Orientation Regulations (indeed opposed the decriminalisation of homosexuality in 1982, equalisation of the age of consent, civil partnerships) so obviously disagree with you.