McShane called handler to be lifted…

Interesting snippet from an web site called World Net Daily. It alleges that McShane sensed he was being moved in on, and called his handlers and asked to be taken out before the IRA acted against him. It alleges also that he was the conduit through which the British discovered critical intelligence on events as far back the killing of British soldiers at Warrenpoint, to the activities of the Columbia Three:

The car he drove, bought for Adams by Sinn Fein, became McShane’s listening post. MI5 had given him a bug that enabled all conversations in the vehicle to be recorded.

It was the recordings that enabled MI5 to learn the role the IRA played in sending three members to train the Colombian terror group FARC and about the masterminds behind the deaths of 18 British soldiers at Warrenpoint.

But last week, sensing the net was closing in on him, McShane sent a prearranged signal to his MI5 controller to be brought in from the cold.

Incidentally, Slugger hears there are uncorroborated rumours doing the rounds in West Belfast that up to three more informers are on the brink of being outed…

  • Greenflag

    ‘that up to three more informers are on the brink of being outed…’

    Better I suppose to be brought in from the cold than being brought in cold I suppose :(.

    One wonders how these people were ‘turned’ or for what reason they ‘volunteered’ to be informers . P
    Nasty business ‘informing’ in Ireland . Guaranteed to perpetuate shame on the family name for generations to come. ‘Perfidious Albion’ will find a home for them I’m sure . No wonder Peter Robinson wants to see the IRA Army Council disbanded. Can’t have Fenian bodies bleeding on the streets again eh ?

  • heck

    nor iron seems more like east germany every day-how long before we hear of wives informing on husbands, childern on their parents.

    it’s time that every spy-loyalist, republican and handler was exposed and then the people can move on

  • Mick Fealty

    Given our settlement, we’re not likely to have any structured and verifiable way of knowing…

  • sms

    “uncorroborated rumours “!!! mick. your standards are slipping.BTW how do you know that M15 didn’t plant another uncorroborated rumour on the world net daily ?

  • Garibaldy

    Mick’s standards would be slipping if he reported names attached to those rumours I’d have thought. As he hasn’t, they aren’t. He is simply reporting one result of all this business.

  • I think that there are some assumptions being passed off as facts in the report quoted by Mick – for a start that IRA members were training FARC in methods of terrorism. That is unproven in any reputable court and shouldn’t be repeated here. It’s being passed off here as a ‘known’ but what it really is is an unfounded unproven assumption.

  • Slugger O’Toole Admin

    The provenance question is a pertinent one sms. The guy who wrote it is a highly politicised US evangelical.

    And it could be a plant, certainly. But since it is extant I thought it was better to blog it than not. This whole territory is one big nasty mind game.

    Mick (sorry about the admin tag, I was dealing with some comment spam just beforehand)

  • Mick Fealty

    Oili,

    See “it alleges” and “it alleges also”…

  • Lorraine

    if it took mi5 about five years to learn the identities of the warreenpoint bombers, they’re not very competent, are they…..

  • Debbie

    Heard the rumours, but after this sort of thing there is always talk of more outing.

  • Seamus Friel

    Mick
    Sometimes one sentence can tell you all you need to know about the credibility of an article. In this case “McShane, a fastidious man with a liking for fish-and-chips and a pint of beer, continued to act and dress like the IRA loyalist he had once been. He wore the organization’s dress code of beret, white shirt, black tie and black trousers.”
    Yes he must have attracted no attention going for the buns in the morning or sitting in his local pub in his beret, white shirt, black tie and black trousers. This is like a cheap Hollywood film version of the IRA, surely the pigs in his parlour would have diried his lovely trousers!!! Do me a favour Mick!!!! What a source!!!

  • Mick Fealty

    Seamus,

    I’m about to put a contribution on ‘The Objectivity Myth’ thread that tangentially relates to your point. Two things worth say here though. 1, in a knowledge vacuum, it is almost impossible to tell information from misinformation. 2, the thread here is a powerful way to re-contextualise the information above. sms has helped to do that already.

    Should I have linked it? I see the need to treat it with caution, but I cannot see any compelling reason why I should not have.

  • Rory

    It could be argued, Mick, that objectivity or the lack thereof is best portrayed in the presentation. Thus we have a link to a piece from a blogger who bills it as “an interesting snippet”. Which indeed it is.

    But is it interesting insofar as what it contains may shed new light on an ongoing story? That would be true if we could have some confidence in it’s accuracy or if we had a history of confidence in it’s author.

    But since we have no such history of confidence might we not have hoped that the blogger would have at least given us a little background on the source?

    Without such background we tend to have faith in the content of the piece based on our respect and faith in the blogger. If it then turns out that the source for the piece he linked to is in fact dubious then the blogger’s own reputation stands in danger of being tarnished.

    Be careful out there.

  • Mick Fealty

    Amen to your last! To which I would add, reader beware!!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    OILibhear Chromaill
    [i] for a start that IRA members were training FARC in methods of terrorism. That is unproven in any reputable court and shouldn’t be repeated here. It’s being passed off here as a ‘known’ but what it really is is an unfounded unproven assumption.[/i]

    It might not have been proven in court, but there’s substancial proof of their involvement with FARC.

    [b]Farc rebel ‘admits IRA trained him'[/b]

    “It is the first report of a Farc guerilla to claim he was trained by them since two defectors refused to testify in the Irishmen’s 2003 trial.
    General Carlos Alberto Ospina says he personally interviewed the former member of Farc, who claims he was shown how to use explosives, landmines and mortars by the IRA team.
    Ospina said IRA-style techniques are now being used all over Colombia by Farc.”

    The sunday times, Ireland.

  • jake

    this story is a perfect example of why blogs and those who run them do not belong in the world of journalism – journalists, at least of the better variety, check their stories before going into print and mr fealty would have been wise to have done a simple check on world net daily before rushing to his keyboard – world net daily is a right-wing loony outfit funded by the billionaire richard mellon scaife who is also notorious for his financing of the evangelical and neo-conservative right in america (the people who brought you george bush and the invasion of iraq) – the site is notorious for its racism and its content is blocked by NetNanny for “hate/violence” content and it has also been blocked by a variety of other organisations including the US Navy. World Net Daily is known for its love of crazy and outlandish conspiracy theories. Here are some examples: the attacks of 911 were evidence that “God (has) raised up Shiite Islam as a sword against America” in punishment for its moral depravity; in december 2006 world net daily reported that “KGB defector Alexander Litvinenko converted to Islam before his mysterious poisoning with radioactive polonium 210 is raising suspicions that he may have been involved in a plot to smuggle the deadly substance to terrorist groups.” the site later admitted that the evidence for this was “gossip from his Muslim next-door neighbour”; also in december 2006 world net daily ran an editorial saying “eating soy at a young age increases the chance that a child will be gay, and that soy’s estrogen content will feminize a young boy”;
    need i say more? i suggest firstly that the story about mr mcshane is probably just as fanciful as any of these and secondly that mick fealty should stick to writing about lunar eclipses or whatever and stay out of real journalism.

  • joeCanuck

    I agree. Shoot the messenger.

  • Bob Mugabe

    “I think that there are some assumptions being passed off as facts in the report quoted by Mick – for a start that IRA members were training FARC in methods of terrorism. That is unproven in any reputable court and shouldn’t be repeated here. It’s being passed off here as a ‘known’ but what it really is is an unfounded unproven assumption.”

    Unless the FARC psychos/cokeheads scored lots of own goals with the bombs, PIRASF involvement should not be assumed.

    A Secret History of the IRA and Fr Denis faul were both spot on. MI5 agents all of them.