Where in London can we watch Northern Ireland on Wednesday night?

Just had a plaintive email from a Belfast based reader who is going to be in London on Wednesday night. He’s already panicking of the likelyhood that most of the bars in London will be showing the England match instead. But there has got to been a favoured venue for NI ‘ex pats’ to get together for what is likely to be the biggest crunch match for over 20 years. As it happens, I am going to be in town that night too, so if we can get a quorum, it would be good to meet up and make a bit of a night of it… How much, depends on the result and how heavy the work schedule is the next day…

  • GNeill

    The Famous Three Kings in West Kensington is the usual hangout of London based ex-pats. There is bound to be a sizeable crowd there. It’s a massive sports pub right by the tube station and will probably be showing every match they can on Wednesday. It’s your best bet.

  • slug

    You could post the question on the OWC forum. Though i can’t get in due to bandwith limits lately with too many people visiting the OWC forums.

  • parci

    might find a tapas bar showing the game 🙂

  • me

    Try the waxy o’connors in london, or the all bar one down near the london eye, you’ll see the match there alright.

  • Tkmaxx

    Try the O connor Don in Marylebone – the Crown – Cricklewood or the any of the O Neill bars

  • Diluted Orange

    [i]>>I’d start with any B.N.P. or National Front pub<<[/i]The mask slips ... It never ceases to amaze me just how bitter some people are towards the Northern Ireland football team. We are about to complete our most successful qualifying campaign since the mid 1980's yet some posters who apparently aspire to a 'United' Ireland cannot find any sort of joy whatsoever inside themselves for a cross-community Irish team doing well.It's really quite pathetic. I don't know which is more sad: that folk hate the NI team so much that they feel the need to berate it at every turn, much of the time by fabricating completely false allegations to justify their extreme viewpoints or that these same people let their political aspirations colour every opinion they have on everything - sport included. Keep the abuse coming though, it's not me and the rest of the Green and White Army that being made to look transparently sectarian and bitter.

  • harry

    Orange

    catch youself on…

    The mask slips … It never ceases to amaze me just how bitter some people are towards the Northern Ireland football team

    i believe the poster was looking a bar in london to watch the match.

    the reason being that you will not just walk into one and the english will have it on

    you see..

    the English dont give a shit about Norn Iron either

    so it is not just the fenians that dont give a shit.

  • Eddie

    You’ll probably be able to see it on satellite at home, no matter where you are in these islands. The BBC Northern Ireland regional output is on Sky (forgotten the channel number – I gave up satellite about a year ago) However, it’s around the upper end of the spectrum – around channel 860 or 960.

    In fact, all the BBC regions are on Sky – at teatime news time you can see Look North from Manchester with Gordon Burns; Reporting Scotland from Glasgow; Look East from Norwich and so on…

    Also if some BBC Northern Ireland programme is annoying you when it blankets an otherwise nationally networked programme which you’ve seen mentioned somewhere, all you have to do is find the BBC London channel for the network programme.

    If this is no longer the case, please blog here, as I wouldn’t want to mislead anyone else. If you have satellite, try it now

  • Mick Fealty

    Harry,

    Is anyone in Belfast going to be watching the England match? Not sure I get your point.

  • Mick Fealty

    Eddie,

    We’ll be in London for one night only. A pub is probably the best bet.

  • Diluted Orange

    harry

    [i]i believe the poster was looking a bar in london to watch the match.[/i]

    Yes, I didn’t point out their post though did I? I pointed out the response which suggested that he/she should go to a B.N.P. club (if there is such a thing?), which paints the association of the Northern Ireland football team and its support as being bigots. It’s quite evident on thread who the bigots are …

    [i]so it is not just the [b]fenians[/b] that dont give a shit.[/i]

    Oh that’s so big of you! I gather you think that I and the rest of the NI support, as the exclusively Protestant oppressor bunch that we apparently are refer to all Nationalists as ‘fenians’? You’ve brought yourself down (or is to up?) to the intellectual level of the average American rapper, who thinks it’s cool to call himself the n-word. Well done!

    Also, Harry if you don’t give a shit then why do you and so many others love to stir the pot and comment on any threads about Northern Ireland? I don’t support the Republic, but that doesn’t mean I feel the need to spend my life slagging them off on every thread, even though if I chose to comment there would plenty of fodder to attack their support for being sectarian. I guess I’m just not as bitter or hate-filled.

    You see I [u]really[/u] don’t ‘give a shit’ about the Republic’s team, as evident by my lack of comment on them (so long as their actions don’t impinge on the existence of my team, as they have done recently). I don’t like or dislike them, to me they are irrelevant. You see my friend, that actually is what ‘not giving a shit’ means.

  • Garibaldy

    I reckon none of the O’Neill’s bars will show it. They are purely commercial, and not Irish in the normal sense. I’ve been in one where Irish fans were told to bugger off for a game they were alraedy wathcin at half time when an England rugby match started.

  • Killy Billys black horse

    a game that half of the population here won`t gave a toss for,anybody but the make believe unionist state of norn iron.

  • pfhl

    Harry

    there is no need to label all NI fans as bigots as the large majority are not bigots, they just happily stood by for years while the minority were bigots, which was unfortunate for the image of the team. Fair play to the team for doing as well as they have though.

    Orange

    as an irishman i do not see the term fenian as an insult so dont equate it to rap. You may not agree with the objectives of the fenian brotherhood where the term originated however that does not make the term an insult to everybody. I have a great respect for those fenians that gave their life for ireland, so do many americans who had them serve in their armed forces during the civil war. Maybe it is only you or people of a similar mindset that think of it as an insult.

    Good luck to northern ireland by the way, i would like to see them succeed although i am a republic fan. Is it ok for me to comment now orange?

  • Eddie

    Mick
    My point was that if you are in London and don’t want to go to a pub and perhaps staying with friends who have satellite you can still atch the N Ireland match in London!
    Also, if you’re in Belfast you can also flick back and forward and see BOTH matches.
    Or, if you are a Northern Irish peson who dosn’t want to see a Northern Irish team play, then there’s another match for you to watch.
    I was trying to be helpful, you know

  • harry

    Also, Harry if you don’t give a shit then why do you and so many others love to stir the pot and comment on any threads about Northern Ireland

    well usually i dont comment on ni football or even roi either as i dont care for either nor for football as whole.

    i would imagine that alot of people, well i do, like to get the digs in about the ni team as it offers a balance to the sycophantic coverage offered by the media here.

    one would would get impression from watching the bbc that Norn iron were a national side. they dont take into account fact that at least 50% could not care less what goes on with ni football.

    yet if i want a tv in my house i have to pay a fee to finance media coverage of this fallacy that northern ireland are a nation.

    not that i am a GAA fan, but the bbc do not give over huge coverage to cover those matches

    nor does Nolan dedicate entire programmes to the outcome of the GAA Ulster Club Finals which would command bigger attendance but he will when norn iron dont get beat by somebody.

    so yeah

    but, as i remember once in the Innisfree Bar in North Finchely (across the road from the Tally Ho) showed a NI match.

  • Shore Road Resident

    These sort of responses to the progress of the NI fans reveals how uncomfortable some people are with the success of their move away from sectarianism.
    It is fascinating to compare the general unionist welcome for GAA reform with the snattery jeering of republicans towards similar changes by NI fans.
    It is an odd sort of ‘republican’ that is provoked into such bile by such developments.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Good public relations opportunity for Irish amabassdor to open up 17 Grosvenor Place.

    p.s. Shore Rd Resident – I am adding snattery into my vocabulary with immediate effect.

  • Eyes shut

    so at every norn ireland match, god save the queen is never sung(never at scotland and wales games strange!)loyalist flags aren`t on display and sold outside, rangers shirts aren`t worn,6 county ulster flags aren`t paraded,uda and uvf chants along with anti catholic songs aren`t sung.

    I must be seeing a different game on TV, god bless our wee countries little old Jackie who fails to see or hear anything.

  • the dowie

    Your eyes must indeed be shut. Your ears likewise.

  • dewi

    Need two bars by the sounds of it.

  • Diluted Orange

    Killy Billys black horse

    [i]”a game that half of the population here won`t gave a toss for,anybody but the [b]make believe[/b] unionist state of norn iron.”[/i]

    Nah. I’m pretty sure it’s real. But of course that’s the real issue here, not an actual interest in football per se, but a hatred of all things ‘Northern Irish’.

    phfl

    [i]”as an irishman i do not see the term fenian as an insult so dont equate it to rap. You may not agree with the objectives of the fenian brotherhood where the term originated however that does not make the term an insult to everybody.”[/i]

    I’ll try not to second guess Harry but I’m fairly sure he wasn’t using the word in a historical context do you? I suppose being called a ‘hun’ in your book isn’t offensive either – as it literally describes an ancient nomadic central Asian people, yet is also commonly used as a slur against Irish Protestants. Tell me something, if I were to refer to you as a ‘fenian’ would you not take offence? Or does it cease to be an offensive word when it’s uttered by a Nationalist? In that respect I feel that I’m perfectly right to compare Harry with 50 Cent and the like with their flippant use of such a loaded, venomous word as the n-word.

    As a fellow Irishman, I think I’ll decide what I find offensive about comments directed towards me, thank you very much. Especially when they are used wrongly to defame my football team and the supporters of it.

    [i]”Good luck to northern ireland by the way, i would like to see them succeed although i am a republic fan.”[/i]

    Thank you. I think more people from both sides of the divide need to adopt this mature attitude rather than resorting to childish slander in order to make a political point, which only serves to further entrench the depth of bad feeling in Northern Ireland between the 2 communities.

    Eyes shut

    [i]”so at every norn ireland match, god save the queen is never sung(never at scotland and wales games strange!)loyalist flags aren`t on display and sold outside, rangers shirts aren`t worn,6 county ulster flags aren`t paraded,[b]uda and uvf chants along with anti catholic songs aren`t sung.[/b]”[/i]

    Keep taking the Calpol. With any luck you’ll feel better in the morning, we wouldn’t want you having to take a day off sick from school would we?

  • Brendan, Belfast

    the problem is that up until yesterday neither Sky nor the BBC had taken up an option on the game. The Spanish are looking for £.5m and in case it ended up a ‘dead rubber’ (which it kind of is, unfortunately) neither broadcaster went for it.

    So unless things change you can go to all the bars and Ambassadors houses you want- it won’t be on.

  • harry

    diluted Orange.

    i am a fenian. i dont mind if a unionist calls me a fenian.

  • Suilven

    ‘the problem is that up until yesterday neither Sky nor the BBC had taken up an option on the game. The Spanish are looking for £.5m and in case it ended up a ‘dead rubber’ (which it kind of is, unfortunately) neither broadcaster went for it.

    So unless things change you can go to all the bars and Ambassadors houses you want- it won’t be on.’

    Ignore the misinformation above – it’s on the Beeb.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7097189.stm

  • Bemused

    The removal of my post made me chuckle. Is anyone seriously suggesting that BNP/National Front scum AREN’T supporters of Northern Ireland? Strikes me as a fairly self-evident proposition – Northern Ireland have always had a strong level of support amongst the pond-life of British racial and sectarian politics. Just wander into the ‘Union Jack’ shop on the Newtownards Road if you don’t believe me. Enoch Powell, Johnny Adair, George Seawright – suppose they were all Republic supporters? Still – nice to have touched your raw nerve – you may have managed to delude yourselves into forgetting your excerable antics over the last number of years but your reflexive response to my post shows that you’ll never fully escape the reality of your existence.

  • Suilven

    ‘you’ll never fully escape the reality of your existence.’

    …whereas, Bemused, 85 years into the existence of Northern Ireland, you still haven’t come to terms with that.

  • esmereldavillalobos

    Eddie

    BBC 2 NI is on Sky channel 992 – where I will be tuned on Wednesday night.

  • Mick Fealty

    Bemused,

    You’ve have the distinction of having been banned twice for playing the man (though to be fair, you also seem to have an appetite for playing both sides equally unfairly). Keep it, and you can collect a third red on your way out the door.

  • brendan,belfast

    Suilven

    Misinformation?? on saurday morning the story was that the match would not be showm. Clearly that has changed, and thats good. I would have referred to my post as a mistake not ‘misinformation’.

    But one mans coffee etc

  • Suilven

    Given that it was a genuine mistake, Brendan, I apologise – but the decision was made pre-Saturday, as the link I provided shows.

  • Gaelach

    When you think about it, aren’t the 6 county team doing well for such a small pick of players from the northeast.

  • Dec

    Is anyone in Belfast going to be watching the England match?

    Billy Hutchinson?

  • ND

    Didn’t enjoy the anthem but did enjoy the game, think NI fans should make the very most of wednesday as think this is the high point.

    Unfortunately Mick, although I know a fair few football pubs I can’t think of any that’ll definately show the NI game.

    Does this annoy anyone here? Angry letters to l’equipe.

    http://www.sportvox.fr/article.php3?id_article=17539

  • Suilven

    Ho ho – bad enough that the BBC appear to treat the RoI side as a de facto fifth ‘home nation’, but now the French are at it as well…

  • Diluted Orange

    [i]Enoch Powell, Johnny Adair, George Seawright – suppose they were all Republic supporters?[/i]

    Hmmm Enoch Powell – English. So somehow I don’t think he was seen much at Windsor Park even when he was an MP over here. I’ve never seen Johnny Adair in the flesh ever, never mind at any Northern Ireland games that I’ve been to and I’ve been going for well over a decade but even if he was there does that mean that by extension all Northern Ireland fans are blood thirsty loyalist thugs?

    By your logic all RoI supporters would be former IRA men, given that quite a few SF spokespersons have voiced their obvious support for that team over our own NI team. Also, I’m fairly sure that Hitler was an avid Germany fan – does that mean that all German football fans are Nazis by default? Similarly, General Franco was a huge fan of the Spanish national side – are all Spanish fans facists?

    In short – wise up. As far as revealing shocking ‘revelations’ about the Northern Ireland football team goes you’ve done nothing of the sort and only succeeded in making yourself look like an ignorant fool and a bitter one at that. As I said previously, keep it coming, hopefully Mick will keep your bile dripping posts up – then everyone else can decide for themselves who the real bigots here are – people like you or NI football fans.

  • Mick Fealty

    Well ND, we already know that the whole of Ireland is barely visible from corporate France.

    If SNCF thinks the whole island is in Grand Bretagne, perhaps we should give L’Equipe a bye ball on that?

  • I believe Johnny Adair has often been photographed in an England top.

    Wonderful exploits again by the lads on Saturday night. My head’s still a bit tender from the celebrations.

  • Gael

    And St.Galls are through to play Crossmaglen

  • Jackie Fullerton’s lovechild

    “so at every norn ireland match, god save the queen is never sung(never at scotland and wales games strange!)loyalist flags aren`t on display and sold outside, rangers shirts aren`t worn,6 county ulster flags aren`t paraded,uda and uvf chants along with anti catholic songs aren`t sung.”

    In a word, no.

    God Save the Queen is the national anthem, like it or not. Scotland and Wales (massive generalisation here, but it serves my point) want to break from constitutional Britain, whereas many NI supporters don’t. They want their own identity, but within the UK. I surely don’t have to explain this.

    Loyalist flags are not on display, nor sold outside, and if anyone attempted to take one into the ground (I’ve never seen it but you never know) it would be removed, more than likely by other supporters before the stewards even got near.

    Not that there’s many, but Rangers tops I don’t agree with wearing at Windsor, but for that matter I don’t agree with wearing Manchester United or Liverpool or whoever tops there either. But at the end of the day, you can’t stop people supporting who they want and wearing what they want. And that’s not to say all Rangers fans are bigots either, but that’s another argument for another day.

    The Ulster flag, while not being our national flag anymore, is the closest we’re likely to get, and it gives us an identity of our own. Otherwise we would be waving the national flag, which is technically the Union Jack, and that doesn’t mark us out from anyone else flying it in mainland Britain.

    As for anti-catholic and paramilitary songs being sung – wind your neck in.

    I’ll be the first to admit that the vocal minority used to be a problem. The Neil Lennon incident was the straw that broke the camel’s back for many, and since then NI supporters have become world famous for the support they give their team. Ask UEFA.

    Have you been to Windsor Park lately? Or indeed at all? It seems to me you’re one of these people who are bigoted themselves, and simply refuse to change their bitter little views, no matter how much the evidence flys in their face.

  • Ex Pat Pat

    What a tiresome bunch some of you are (Bemused, in particular) – it doesn’t seem to be possible for someone to ask about where to watch a football game without descending into sheer stupidity.

    I can heartily recommend the Famous 3 Kings, next to West Kensington tube stop. It’s a great bar for football – they show loads of different games on different screen so you’ll have Swedes, Poles, English, Ukranians, the lot in there.

    And there will be a very decent load of Norn Iron fans – none of whom will be singing sectarian songs. There”ll be at least one guy there who attended St. Malachy’s and another guy who occasionally wears his Glasgow Celtic shirt but is a big NI fan.

  • Keith

    I’m glad my email to Mick has functioned as another chance for a slugger slingin match.

    Regardless it seems that the 3 Kings is the place to be. A good slugger turnout and a few pints would be a brilliant idea.

    So 3 kings eh.. we already have King David (HEEEEALY)…so who are the other two?

    Oh and go on the latvia!

  • Dec

    Jackie Fullerton’s lovechild

    While wishing NI all the best on wednesdsay, i couldn’t let your rant go unnoticed. Your post was littered with the tiresome “our flag” or “our anthem” rubbish. I was born and bred in the north and am a tax-payer but that isn’t my flag and that isn’t my anthem, so where do I fit in at Windsor Park?

    But at the end of the day, you can’t stop people supporting who they want and wearing what they want.

    Could I ear my Celtic shirt to Windsor Park and live to see the next morning?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dec

    Seen any Rangers shirts at ROI games?

  • Glyn

    Although I know that these places have been mentioned before, I’m going to repeat them for the sake of hearing my own voice

    The two obvious places are:

    (1) The F3K (“Famous Three Kings” pub) almost immediately next to West Kensington underground station. Lots of screens and open until at least midnight.

    (2) More centrally, the Sport Cafe on Haymarket between Piccadilly Circus and Trafalgar Squre and next to the theatre showing “Phantom of the Opera”. Beer is mediocre and expensive but it’s on a number of floors, so you’re certain to see the game there.

  • Mick Fealty

    It’s going to be (1), I think Glyn.

    Dec,

    Someone ought to try it and see. And I’m kind of serious. It’s amazing how many times an NI soccer thread descends into a serious of ‘I bet you…’ gambits, when it’s mostly about a (for now at least) relatively successful football team.

    Let me give it some thought.

  • Donnacha

    My God it’s amazing how while some things change, others remain exactly the same. A simple query as to where to watch a game of football turns into a sectarian slagfest and emerging from it all is the frankly astonishing fact that the Three kings is no longer the best place in West London to get cheap drugs but instead has turned into some sort of sporting UN General Assembly. Never mind romantic Ireland being dead and gone, it seems my youthful London has also upped stakes and moved on.

  • Donnacha

    By the way, best of luck to NI on Wednesday, I’d love to see them qualify, even if I did grow up “dine sithe”.

  • Diluted Orange

    Firstly, why does going to a Northern Ireland football game, or any other sporting event for that matter, for some people have to go hand in hand with stating that you’re either a Prod or a Catholic? Does everything you do have to be about labelling yourself? Because in Northern Ireland that is essentially what you are doing if you wear a Rangers or Celtic top in public.

    Dec, firstly if you were really serious about going to Windsor Park, which I sincerely doubt somehow, you should wear a Celtic top if you really feel that you need to mark the occasion with what you probably see as an ‘act of defiance’. I honestly don’t think anyone will bat an eyelid other than to view you as a blatant wind-up merchant and you might even get to see your reserve club team goalkeeper, Michael McGovern, out on the pitch playing for his national side. But with all that ‘green and white’ you’ll have on you might find that you fade into the background too much for your liking and not get the reaction you’re looking for. So if you really want to define yourself and stand out why don’t you just bring a big sign saying ‘I’m a Catholic’ or ‘I vote Sinn Fein’. Unfortunately in that case people will probably stare at you but only because you’ll look like an eejit.

    Believe what you want to believe, there’s obviously no telling the guys with closed minds on this forum anything that might challenge their pre-determined, warped view of the world. We’ve come a long way in a few years both on and off the pitch and there is still more to go. The only problem you would have is the same that anyone else who decides to wear a club top to an international football game will have – they’d rather you’d wore a Northern Ireland top instead.

  • Billyd

    It’s only futball!!! yer all feckin nuts!! Any wee team from the Isle should be congratulated by all for doing so well afetr milleniums of defeat.. but of our rep friinds can’t not see forest for the green!!!