Alderdice did exist!

Alex Atwood picked up on this in the Assembly on Monday, asking Willie Hay when he planned to respond to Paisley’s bizarre point of order. His reply seems to be that he wont respond, and that he will simply change rulings as and when he sees fit, which as Mick has already pointed out, he seems to have done on points of order during Ministerial statements. Procedurally, last week may well return to haunt Assembly in the future.

  • Hansard is very amusing to read. You have to feel sorry for poor Willie. He’s really your average not-overly-bright DUP hack who only got to the Speaker’s Chair as a loyal party man. Durkan and Attwood, as far sharper men, pinned him against the wall with a lot of probing questions. Suddenly Willie was so far out of his depth that he threw his toys out of the pram and refused to play any further.

    Difficult to think of a Speaker who is so patently not up to the job. Even Michael Martin would have done better.

  • Rubicon

    I’m not so sure about Willie – in many ways he seems to be doing a good job. Were all of Alderdice’s decisions correct and beyond question? Certainly not. Alderdice had the arrogance and the ability to side-step when pressed. He was also a Speaker who would only have people around him who agreed with him. Mr. Hay seems to play a higher game – not needing to leave the Assembly wet arsed every day.

    Hay may have made a couple of errors but I’d want to see him handling a great deal more Assembly business before accusing him of being partisan. The SDLP can hardly claim credit for their Minister being the 1st to make a decision and then complain about Hay’s handling of the matter being symtematic bias. You can’t have it both ways – now which is it?

    To me, Hay made errors last Tuesday but the reasons for them can be explained without recourse to explanations of bias. Perhaps Hay wasn’t properly advised? Perhaps he should be looking to the competence of those charged with that duty?

  • Hogan from County Tyrone

    I’m afraid i’m with the watchman on this one. i called Hay an idiot on this board yesterday. people took issue with it… that’s fine, i offered to retract the remark if they could point out what part of the last 14 days Hay has handled well?

    Rubicon

    Your point might be a response to my challenge…however you say he might have been badly advised? Maybe? frankly it doesn’t matter how good or bad it was. Let me explain why.

    because the ‘stout defender’ bumbled his way into admiting who ACTUALLY advised him. Now as any a-level politics student will tell you we have a little thing in western democracies called division of government, legislative, executive and judicial.

    Hay has his clerk to advise him.

    Taking advice from hamilton should be like Oil and Water – they don’t mix.

    However i don’t totally blame Oor Wullie for it, i believe it was a measure of how much Robinson/Hamilton were trying to yank the levers of power around this whole issue and hay innocently stumbled into the middle of it.

    However to conclude, anyone with an ounce of sense would have seen the obvious un-constitutional nature of this a mile off and deftly avoided it (particularly Alderdice!).

    You complain that Alderdice was somehow arrogant? Well i didn’t exactly appreciate how he screwed over Close to get into the big chair but you will find that arrogant people tend to get things right more often than well-meaning bumbling idiots.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Alderdice had the arrogance and the ability to side-step when pressed.

    When did Alderdice do that when he was Speaker ?

    He was also a Speaker who would only have people around him who agreed with him.

    eh ? As Speaker, what choice did he have either way of what people to have around him ?

    Mr. Hay seems to play a higher game – not needing to leave the Assembly wet arsed every day.

    At the cost of having a clearly partisan speaker.

  • As Tic

    OH No he did not!