Flooding blamed on Flying Spaghetti Monster’s ill-temper..

Some houses have reportedly been flooded after a river burst its banks in the Cushendall area. [Flying spaghetti monster said to have got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? – Ed]

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  • Frank Sinistra

    Pete,

    Am i missing something? Who has blamed this on a ‘god’? I read a flood getting reported. Am I missing something or are you doctoring the ball on something as basic as rain in the Glens?

    btw, I’m agin blaming the natural on the supernatural but I am missing where it happened in this case.

  • Sean

    Pete Baker

    you are being disengenuous on blaming it on the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster as true advocates of pastaferism know his noodly apendage only spreads benevolance on those it touches
    RAAAAAMMMMMMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  • Northsider

    Al Gore told me it was global wamring wot done it and that I should feel really guilty about all those short-haul flights to London and mainland Europe I’ve taken.

    Shame on me. Still, at least he offered me some carbon offsets for a knock-down price and now I feel suitable cleansed and reborn in the face of Mother Earth Almighty (Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster – or soemthing)

    Before it all though, I felt so low cos it’s me, and people like me, who are going to cause the Book of Revelations to come true. It’s a fact. I read all about it in The Alarmist’s Bugle (otherwise known as The Independent.)

  • Comrade Stalin

    There has been a distinct increase in pirate activity in the Cushendall vicinity within the past few months. The wrath of the Flying Spaghetti Monster comes as no surprise.

  • circles

    I think this must all have something to do with that Martin McGuinness fella and his dastardly relatives.
    You sure those no link there Pete?

  • Gréagóir O’ Fránclin

    All run for yer Black & Deckers and immediately start building an ARK, for the wrath of the very good and compassionate all knowing lord thy god is upon thee all, well so says Gandalf or someone like that!

  • Pounder

    Praise His Noodily Appendage

  • jg

    More water might encourage more pirates and therefore there will be less global warming in the future.

  • Harry Briscoe

    The pathetic standard on this thread probably helps explain Islamic suicide bombers. The Anglican bishops pronouncements on the English rains sound really silly to me, especially remembering Falwell’s comments about 9-11 and gays. But we won’t move forward until sound arguments replace puerility.
    Attitudes like this – laughing off religion and killing Muslims at the same time – do not help. It demeans everything.

  • snakebrain

    “laughing off religion and killing Muslims at the same time”

    With all due respect, what are you talking about?

  • snakebrain

    I think it’s interesting that this thread (and those like it) gets so little attention here. Run the equivalent on Guardian Comment is Free and you get hundreds and hundreds of comments.

    The Enlightenment never made it this far North, NI remains overwhelmingly accepting of the doctrines of various Christian churches. Maybe in twenty years we’ll get a decent standard of debate, and eventually a willingness to accept reason as the best system to run human affairs by…

  • Northsider

    The Enlightenment never made it this far North, NI remains overwhelmingly accepting of the doctrines of various Christian churches.

    As opposed to the overwhelming majority of contributors to CIF on GU – they all worship at the Church of Mother Earth, fully paid up members of the Green Party Cult.

  • The Enlightenment never made it this far North, NI remains overwhelmingly accepting of the doctrines of various Christian churches.

    Er… dude… um, the Enlightenment co-existed happily with a high level of Christian practice in Europe for centuries. Mass secularisation is maybe 70 or 80 years old in its North West European heartlands; the Enlightenment predates that by a couple of centuries.

    And the threat to the Enlightenment doesn’t come from some weird Church of England bishop, regarded as a fruit-loop by most of his colleagues; not even particularly from wacko creationists in the American South. Instead, it comes from the intelligent, educated, section of society which was once its staunchest defender but has now abandoned any belief in progress or the capacity of humans to make the world a better place.

    Why do the Richard Dawkins wannabes on CiF spend so much time getting the boot into a belief system that’s a declining minority taste? Maybe because it’s easier than asking difficult questions about the beliefs of the culturally dominant class? In either case, it’s about as relevant as 1968 German Spontis protesting about the Prussian officer class – what remains of European Christianity today is only a pale shadow of what once was. Ichabod.

  • snakebrain

    Er..dude…

    I don’t know just how happily the Enlightenment co-existed with a high level of Christian practice.

    Fair enough about the CiF posters, but I still think it’s interesting that there’s not so much debate on similar topics in NI, and that there’s a lot more credence given to various religious viewpoints here than in most of Europe. That’s something that I feel is undoubtedly a consequence of the religious heritage of NI, which has remained relatively unchallenged, and perhaps even supported by the tribal aspect of religion here.

  • Turgon

    Snakebrain,

    I am a very poor theologian but I will try.

    I thought the idea of God allowing bad things to happen to us because of our sin is fairly valid in Old Testament terms. Interestingle Sodom and Gomorragh were destroyed not only for their “sodomy” buit are also codmened (much more) for their dishonesty and exploitation.

    Moving to New Testament times when Jesus healed a man blind from birth he was asked “How sinned this man or his parents”. His replly was “Neither but this happened that the glory of God may be revealed.”

    I think as Christians we believe that due to the fallen nature of the world bad stuff happens and God allows this to happen but restrains the worst of what we deserve due to our sin.

    Okay that is really poor. I am not at home at the moment so cannot ask Elenwe who has some theological training. Sorry but at least I tried!

  • Nevin

    Watch a bald man wrestle with the Monster at the Waul in the Mall:

    http://www.smithsonianglobalsound.org/sgs_live-webcast-archive_03.aspx

  • Harry Briscoe

    Nevin: Nice music but why is this Mick dressed as a Jock?

    Sammy Morse: Good points. The books of Dawkins, Hitchens, Stenger, Dennett, Harris and the others on this gravy train and the others are of secondary school standard at best. And of course they don’t bite the hand that feeds them. They condemn the “religious terrorists” of the NHS but they support the destruction of Iraq, taking up the white man’s burden for oil, the right to rape and the roght to slag off religion on sites like this.

  • Sam Hanna

    Those who doubt the existence of God only delineate their own foolishness.

    Yes, the Enligtened times we live in has given us declining education, crimewaves, social disorder, record divorce, record levels of sexual diseases and millions of infants destroyed by savagery in the wombs of their mothers in the name of choice. Whose smart idea was it to write God out of the picture?

    Reason has proven such a great success…….

  • snakebrain

    Sam Hanna

    Where have you been hiding, waiting to emerge, bible in hand, to bash us unbelievers?

    Religion on the other hand gave us the Inquisition, public burnings, the Index of censorship, back-street abortions……I could go on, but I’m only going to inflame you

  • Harry Briscoe

    The Inquisition? During the 30 years’ war, Germany lost 1/3 of itsp opulation. Compared to that, the Inquisition was the gentlest fart. Snakebrain indeed.
    And before you rabbit on that it was a religious war, France backed the Prots. Just like the battle of the Boyne was a political power play, not a religious or gay play. Wise up.

  • abucs

    Have to agree with Harry about the level of discussion at secondary school level.

    There is no doubt, NO DOUBT, that the Christian churches have done things wrong. But honestly, what do you expect ?

    At different times the church has been the primary moral, historical, administrative, governmental, military, scientific and economic driving force of western civilisation.

    Their contribution to culture, art, banking, preservation of knowledge, scientific funding, architecture, infrastructure, taxes, and secular administration etc etc cannot be overstated.

    Of course they have done things wrong. They are us, the people.

    America is thought of for the last hundred years as the pre-eminant government and culture and yet you could list very easily the things we would have said it does wrong. You can include Britain in that for the century previously.

    Again, they, are us, the people. It’s the underying ethos and allegiance and commitment to rules that determine if it will be successful and beneficial overall.

    btw, the horrible Spanish Inquisition, by no means a highpoint in the Church, was actually instigated by Spanish authorities after the re-conquest of Spain from the Muslims.

    It went for 350 years and stretched from Spain to Mexico. It is estimated that between 3,000 and 5,000 people were killed, averaging about 1 a month.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

    Compare that to the relatively brief secular Spanish anti clerical campaign of last century where well over 6,000 in religious orders alone were killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-clericalism

    Sure, we can debate about this and that, but if the level of debate is childish, why bother ?

    I agree with Sam that we should be mindful about where all this ‘supposed reason’ is leading us.
    In my opinion, this continual bashing of anything to do with the church is not constructive, but destructive. And therefore it is not enlightened but very unenlightened.

  • Nevin

    “Nevin: Nice music but why is this Mick dressed as a Jock?”

    Neither Mick nor Jock but Robertyoutube 😉

  • I still think it’s interesting that there’s not so much debate on similar topics in NI, and that there’s a lot more credence given to various religious viewpoints here than in most of Europe

    Sure, and it just goes to show how weird this place is; I was talking about western civilisation, not Northern Ireland.

  • Sam Hanna

    “Religion on the other hand gave us the Inquisition, public burnings, the Index of censorship, back-street abortions……I could go on, but I’m only going to inflame you”

    Try reading European history. Biblical Christianity brought civil and religious liberty, emancipation, middle classes, strong families, charity, scientific revolution, end to slavery etc etc.

    Please do us all the compliment of distinquishing between the corrupt, bloasted, backward Middle Ages dominated by the Roman Catholic Church. All true Christians abhor this perversion of truth and morality that darkened all of Europe. The Protestant Reformation was the catalyst to destroy all of the above and bring us our freedoms. The Popes even burned Bibles to stop the people reading them for goodness sake!

  • Sean

    Sam Hanna
    Please get real

  • Comrade Stalin

    All true Christians abhor this perversion of truth and morality that darkened all of Europe.

    Sam, you’re right about the Catholic church. But why did it take Christians 1500 years to stop it ?

  • The one who was there

    Speaking as someone who was there I can assure you that this flooding is purely down to the destruction of the environment on a number of levels. These include human ways which have led to climate change, illegal dumping!, and overgrown river banks and trees which lead to prevention of the water getting through.

    The one thing that was of particular interest was the politics around the area and how people’s unfortunate experiences were used to promote petty politics!

    I heard one public rep say that he had been there with the families yet those who were affected have yet to meet him!!

  • Gréagóir O’ Franclín

    A site worth checkin out……….

    http://www.bandoli.no/

    Here’s a bit of reading for all!