Derek Dougan dies…

I remember listening to some local radio programme whilst travelling on the A52 from Nottingham to Derby, when a postman called Kevin Hector called in to the show. I was gobsmacked. In the seventies he was a household name. Less talented but nonetheless a seemingly permanent fixture was Derek Dougan who has died. Dougan was as synonymous with his club Wolves as Hector was with Brian Clough’s highly successful Derby County team. And as United Irishman notes, he scored more English league goals than any other Irishman. His most memorable book: The Sash he never wore.

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  • Realist

    RIP The Doog.

  • Pounder

    I wonder if Derek Dougan will warrent a funeral in Stormont too?

  • jim

    Both George Best & the Doog were great supporters of an all Ireland team, a pity they did not live to see their wish become reality.

    Rest In Peace Derek.

  • Tochais Síoraí

    What was DD’s thing with the UKIP? It seems a bit of sync with his previous political thinking? Didn’t he once stand in East Belfast as a (non-unionist) Independent?

    My Kevin Hector moment was hearing that Dave Langan, RoI full-back in the eighties was no longer able to work as a security guard due to not being able to walk properly. Disgracefully, the FAI refused to grant him a testimonial at a time when players who didn’t need them financially (but had played the required 50 internationals) were getting them.

  • darth rumsfeld

    the Doog less talented than Hector? Shome mishtake shurely?

  • Met The Doog in The Garrick Bar in 1990 during the time of the World Cup in Italy. A genuinely nice guy and he was really enthusiastic about The Republic of Irelands acheivements during that tournament. He use to drink in The Garrick quite a lot in those days. He was way more intelligent than today’s average professionals, some of whom are a total embarrasment when a camera or microphone is thrust upon them…

  • MariborKev

    Dougan also has a claim to fame for introducing shirt advertising when he was manager of Kettering Town.

  • Pounder

    [i]Both George Best & the Doog were great supporters of an all Ireland team, a pity they did not live to see their wish become reality.

    Rest In Peace Derek.
    Posted by jim on Jun 25, 2007 @ 11:46 AM[/i]

    When did GB say he supported an All Ireland team?

  • Kevin

    The only time I met Derek Dougan was in the early seventies when the Norn Ireland team were staying in a Lisburn hotel prior to a home international match. The only player who bothered to come out to sign autographs for us kids was the Doug. He chatted with us for about twenty minutes as well. I never forgot that. A true Gentleman. RIP Mr. Dougan.

  • sammaguire

    Pounder. Try Google…not very difficult.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/4374631.stm
    From what I know about Derek Dougan, he was a good guy….RIP.

  • mojo

    I used to see Dougan regularly when he attended the gym at Maysfield Leisure Centre. A modest and unassuming man, he loved joining in the football banter with the ordinary ‘Joe Soaps’ playing 5 a side football.
    What chance nowadays of seeing today’s big-time Charlies mixing with ordinary fans in a council leisure Centre?
    As well as being a good player, the Doog played a sterling role in the PFA and was a forward thinkers in so many other footballing issues. Strange that he seemed to be more highly regarded in the Black Country than his own country.

  • pith

    The association with UKIP is a bit weird but for all his footballing ability and his forward looking approach to the game, Dougan’s politics were always a bit alternative. The publicity-starved UK Independence Party is claiming Dougan as one of their own. Fortunately he will be remembered for his football rather than his role with that fast-disappearing political party.

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    Very sad to see only 12 posters paying tribute to the late Derek Dougan here. Where are all the loyal NI supporters. Is it because most posters are way too young to remember him or is it because that he once suggested an all Ireland team?

  • David

    I also used to see Dougan regularly when he attended the gym at Maysfield Leisure Centre. However, he just came across to me as a foul-mouthed smartarse.

    Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but that’s how I found him.

  • jim

    ‘Very sad to see only 12 posters paying tribute to the late Derek Dougan here. Where are all the loyal NI supporters. Is it because most posters are way too young to remember him or is it because that he once suggested an all Ireland team?’

    greagoir

    I think the ultimate humiliation directed towards Doog, was when supporters daubed paint over his image on a mural in East Belfast after he voiced his support for a united Ireland team on local television

    The irony is that the mural has now been replaced by one of George Best who was also a supporter of an all Ireland team.

  • Paul

    Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín
    Very sad to see only 12 posters paying tribute to the late Derek Dougan here. Where are all the loyal NI supporters. Is it because most posters are way too young to remember him or is it because that he once suggested an all Ireland team?

    The main reason, I’d guess is that threads dealing with NI football (unfortunately, even those dealing with death) get infested with the politically motivated scumtrolls like jim above.

  • jim

    ‘paul’

    I presume you are a scumtroll, as the few n.i supporters on here seem to have several names.

    What is your problem with the Dougan mural point, it is factually correct.?????

    His image was daubed with paint by loyal supporters & both he and Best supported an all Ireland team.

  • Paul

    I presume you are a scumtroll, as the few n.i supporters on here seem to have several names.

    No, Paul’s my real name, what’s yours?

    What is your problem with the Dougan mural point, it is factually correct.?????

    His image was daubed with paint by loyal supporters & both he and Best supported an all Ireland team.

    My problem is that it is got f-all to do with his death, you are trying to provoke a flamewar with provocative comments that have got nothing to do with remembering a great footballer.

    You are the type of scum that even use death to make your petty little political points.. now why don;t you crawl back under your stone, I’ll be wasting no more time on you.

    If people wish to see how Dougan (good and bad) is really remembered by NI fans, check this link:
    http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18588&st=0&start=0

    Mick, sorry for disrupting this thread, but you have let this moron get away with his poison for too long.

  • sick to the teeth

    How very telling that ‘Paul’ dismisses ‘Jim’s’ factual points about the defacing of Dougan’s mural as ‘scum-trolling’ yet ‘Paul’ has no issue with ‘David’s’ opinion that Dougan was a ‘foul-mouth smartarse’.

    Sometimes the truth hurts ‘Paul’ and excessive displays of righteous indignation and outrage can’t hide the facts.

    It was sectarian morons among NI fans that led to his mural being defaced and ultimately replaced-all because of an honestly held opinion that he would like to see an All-Ireland team solely for sporting reasons.
    Then you wonder why nationalist soccer fans have no wish to sit amongst the sectarian hordes at Windsor!
    For the record Paul, how many fans from nationalist areas were at the 25th Anniversay Dinner last night?-that is the true measure as to how little NI supporters have travelled over the last 25 years.
    The NI sectarian morons who defaced the Dougan mural should crawl back under their stones in shame of their actions.

  • Realist

    “For the record Paul, how many fans from nationalist areas were at the 25th Anniversay Dinner last night?”

    Gerry Armstrong, for starters.

    He missed watching the repeat of his “memory lane” trip to his beloved Falls Road programme on BBC1 just to be at the 25th Anniversary Dinner – where tribute was paid to Derek Dougan.

    When we see another nationalist/republican Minister this week seek to stop staff making reference to “Northern Ireland” altogether, I think it becomes very obvious why many nationalists/republicans don’t support the Northern Ireland football team.

    Like Derek, it’s funny that the more vilified Northern Ireland supporters become by those who cannot bear to say “Northern Ireland”, the stronger those supporters become.

    Those who seek “unity” (including that of the two football associations on the island) in yet another attack on the very people they claim they wish to be “united” with.

    You couldn’t make it up – maybe the penny will drop some day!

  • sick to the teeth

    ‘Gerry Armstrong (a player by the way) for starters’ -and indeed finishers…….

    Certainly a road less travelled.-clearly it remains a traditional route only

  • gary

    ‘He missed watching the repeat of his “memory lane” trip to his beloved Falls Road programme on BBC1 just to be at the 25th Anniversary Dinner – where tribute was paid to Derek Dougan.’

    Yes watched that myself, funny seeing Gerry in the Red Devil bar with the guys wearing the Ireland football tops & the whole place decorated for Irelands appearance in the 2002 world cup.

    Pretty much as it is today & was 20 years ago, the wee north team only exists within unionism.

    “Like Derek, it’s funny that the more vilified Northern Ireland supporters become by those who cannot bear to say “Northern Ireland”, the stronger those supporters become.”

    realist did you not support painting over Dougan’s image on the mural over on owc??

    tutt-tutt !!! crocodile tears, again !!

  • sick to the teeth

    I am confident that Realist can refute the suggestion that he supported the removal of Dougan’s face from the mural.

    If he had done so and then later paid glowing tribute to the same man after he passed away, then surely that would make him a hypocrite of the highest order?

    Say it ain’t so.

  • Doctor Who

    RIP Dougan

    For the record both Dougan and Best stated that on purely footballing terms the merger of both of Irelands associations would be beneficial.

    They are also both on record as recognising the difficulties of this coming about.

    Difficulties highlighted by the anti NI bigots on this thread.

    Rip DOOG

  • Billy

    Realist

    The reaction of some of the so-called NI Supporters here is a joke.

    It is absolutly true about the Doog’s mural being defaced by NI “fans” becase he suggested an All Ireland Team.

    And you wonder why many Catholics don’t want to join these sectarian crowds at Windsor – No Surrender, the sash etc.

    I wonder how many “fans” enjoying the 25th anniversary were among those who regularly booed the Catholic players? Please don’t deny that – there are plenty of us (including the players in interviews) who remeber it.

    I’m sure there were a few IFA fat cats there. Great that they didn’t have any problem with the sectarian chants, flags and booing. They managed to put plenty of money into Linfield’s coffers – when “the blues” didn’t have a taig about the place.

    I remember the Doog as a great player and a colourful charcter. I hope that he rests in peace.

    I don’t base or alter my opinion of players based on their religion or political viewpoint. I’m afraid the same can’t be said of the majority of NI fans.

    Yet, according to you, the fact that most Catholics want nothing to do with the NI team is down to OUR!! bigottry. So, nothing to do with decades of Windsor Park being a cesspit of anti-Catholicism and vocal support for “loyalist” terrorism then?

    One thing you did get right – you couldn’t make it up!

  • Pounder

    So if the NI team move out of Windsor as planned how many of the Nationalist posters here would attend a NI game?

    Like it or not the NI support is changing, I remember attending games where large sections of the crowd refused to wear a NI scarf because it was green, instead wearing their Linfield shirts ands scarves, now Windsor is a sea of Green and White shirts and quite a few of the sectarian songs are being dumped, unless someone here would argue that We’re Not Brazil We’re Northern Ireland is sectarian? Also look at the names on the team sheet these days, certainly a lot more inclusive.

  • Realist

    Billy,

    “It is absolutly true about the Doog’s mural being defaced by NI “fans” becase he suggested an All Ireland Team”

    It is absolutely not true. His mural was defaced by some his fellow East Belfast citizens in light of comments he made on The Nolan Show – comments not in relation to an All Ireland team. His views on an All Ireland team where well known at the time the mural was painted by East Belfast Northern Ireland fans.

    In fact, the original mural has now been replaced by a mural in honour of George Best – himself a supporter of an All Ireland football team.

    “I wonder how many “fans” enjoying the 25th anniversary were among those who regularly booed the Catholic players?”

    I haven’t a clue – have you?

    I do know that several members of the NISC who hosted the event are “Catholics”.

    “Please don’t deny that – there are plenty of us (including the players in interviews) who remeber it”

    I have never denied that players have been booed, but rarely on account of their religious beliefs.

    The “Catholics” on the team currently, are certainly not booed.

    “when “the blues” didn’t have a taig about the place”

    Isn’t it just fantastic to see how people are moving on?

    What a great article in the Sunday Life at the weekend about a young West Belfast GAA player talk of his desire to do his very best for Linfield Football Club.

    Linfield Football Club are probably the most “mixed” football club, in terms of playing staff, in the whole of Ireland – how many players is it in the first team squad now from nationalist/republican communities?

    “I don’t base or alter my opinion of players based on their religion or political viewpoint”

    What do you mean?

    “I’m afraid the same can’t be said of the majority of NI fans”

    I’m afraid you’re wrong – very wrong indeed.

    “Yet, according to you, the fact that most Catholics want nothing to do with the NI team is down to OUR!! bigottry”

    I didn’t mention “Catholics” – you did!

    You just can’t help yourself, can you?

    Isn’t it these very Northern Ireland fans you seek to be “united” with?

  • Charlie

    I sadly never met Derek Dougan but as a football-mad kid, was immensely proud that he came from Belfast. I’ve read ‘The Sash he never wore’ and I agree with his sentiments about the Orange Order and about how an All-Ireland team would ultimately be the best thing for the long-term success of football on this island.

    I would be pretty damn sure, though, that Derek would have delighted in the recent successes of Northern Ireland and the gutsy spirit shown by young players from his native Ulster. As a proud Irishman, he’d also have taken great heart from the ‘sea of green and white’ initiative and the gradual erosion of the anti-Catholic elements in N. Ireland’s fanbase. It’s a real shame that some contributors to this thread can’t put their sectarian-minded bitterness and political grandstanding to one side and start feeling the same way.

    R.I.P. Derek

  • dave

    ‘I have never denied that players have been booed, but rarely on account of their religious beliefs.’

    Pat Jennings said he was subjected to sectarianism chants throughout his career.

  • I Wonder

    What did the Doog say on the Nolan show that (may have) led to the defacing of his mural?

    If its incorrect that the probable motivation for this vandalism was a perception that he supported an all-Ireland team, then the accusations/counter accusations and inappropriate exchanges regarding sectarianism, etc, are redundant.

  • Realist

    “Pat Jennings”

    Undoutedly the greatest “living legend” amongst the Northern Ireland fanbase – young and old.

    A man who not only set a record number of appearances for Northern Ireland as a player, but came back to offer his services on the coaching staff.

    His portrait takes it’s place amongst the “greats” on a mural at Windsor Park.

    An advocate for an All Ireland team too, I believe?

    A master of gentle persuasion.

  • dave

    ‘Undoutedly the greatest “living legend” amongst the Northern Ireland fanbase – young and old.’

    funny way to cheer on a player with constant sectarian chants !

    To be fair, he was Affectionately known as ‘The Big Fenian From Newry’ by his adoring fans !!

  • Diluted Orange

    [i]It is absolutly true about the Doog’s mural being defaced by NI “fans” becase he suggested an All Ireland Team.[/i]

    The Doog’s views about an All-Ireland team were long known before any mural was painted of him. He helped set up the famous Shamrock Rover’s XI game against Brazil in the 70’s and as such the IFA refused to pick him for the NI team again.

    You confuse the term ‘NI fans’ with ‘loyalist henchmen’, but I’m sure that’s quite predictably deliberate on your part. He might not have been, in light of some of his views on the team, one of the most popular players amongst the NI fanbase but it wouldn’t have been up to any of them as to whether the Doog’s mural was de-faced or not – it would have been the decision of the local UFF hoods running around the Cregagh estate.

    As for the criticism directed at NI fans for not posting their condolences on this thread – why the hell would we entertain posting on a thread dedicated to the DEATH of a NI player when it inevitably descends to the usual petty squabbling match about matters which have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    A lot of people on this site don’t have an ounce of decorum, even when discussing the death of a person. Instead of leaving condolences the same old sectarian diatribes are exchanged. Pathetic.

    You can keep on battering NI fans for what happened in the past but the reality is that things have changed immeasurably for the better in recent years. This is fact and if you don’t want to accept that then that’s your perogative – I’m not going to waste anymore of my time defending our support from the unfounded allegations and lies which get floated around on this site.

    As for Derek Dougan himself. I’m not old enough to have seen him play but he was undoubtedly a top-class footballer and one of the best ever to come from Northern Ireland. The esteem with which his held by fans from Wolverhampton Wanderers is testimony to this. He obviously did a lot for the game outside of playing and was a innovator in many respects. His footballing qualities aside, he came across as being very intelligent and passionate and had a persona that would dwarf that of any modern day footballer.

    Rest In Peace ‘Doog’.

  • Charlie on Jun 27, 2007 @ 10:22 AM ”…. I’ve read ‘The Sash he never wore’ and I agree with his sentiments about the Orange Order and about how an All-Ireland team would ultimately be the best thing for the long-term success of football on this island. “

    I’ve never read the book but it’s now on my literary wish-list. Over the last few days I can glean what he’d said about an All Ireland team ( of course the best route to take) but what did he say about the OO?

  • Realist

    “He helped set up the famous Shamrock Rover’s XI game against Brazil in the 70’s and as such the IFA refused to pick him for the NI team again”

    Diluted Orange,

    This is another myth, often used to bash the IFA with.

    The myth largely stems from “The Doog” himself – he made the claims that it was because of his involvement in this match, Cavan saw to it that he never played again.

    What The Doog (and those that continue to perpetuate the myth) failed to point out were these facts:

    1. The Doog had not been selected to play in any of Northern Ireland’s five preceding matches before the Shamrock Rovers XI v Brazil game.

    2.In the five matches before that, ie. in the last five games that The Doog represented Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland had scored only one goal – and it wasn’t The Doog (Centre Forward) who scored it.

    3. The Doog was over 35 years and six months old when the Shamrock Rovers XI v Brazil game took place.

    He was certainly a “colourful character”.

  • sick to the teeth

    Realist, I note you have still failed to answer the question as to whether you supported, on another website, the decision to remove Dougan’s face from the Woodstock Road mural.
    Your spurious and vague reference to another reason for the defacement of the mural is straight out of Comical Ali’s Guide to Wishful Thinking.
    Was it because the good people of Lower Woodstock were outraged at the Doog playing his football in the Black Country which was entirely at odds with the immigration policy of the UK Independence Party?- over to you Comical Realist.

  • Realist

    sick to the teeth,

    Was the mural, including The Doog’s portrait, on the Lower Woodstock Road painted at a time when The Doog’s views on an All Ireland team were well known, or not…please bear in mind he had advocated an All Ireland team very publicly in 1973?

    The mural, which included four former Northern Ireland players, was replaced with one last year honouring the late George Best.

    Was George Best an advocate of an All Ireland team, or not?

    Once you’ve computed that through your brain, isn’t it then the case that it can’t have been The Doog’s support for an All Ireland team that caused his portrait to be defaced – it must have been something else?

  • sick to the teeth

    Realist, I note that when challenged, you have immediately and laughably reneged upon your earlier assertion that the mural was defaced for a reason other than Dougan’s support for an All-Ireland team.
    Dougan, in his typically uncompromising way, was a much more forthright advocate of an All-Ireland team than George. However please don’t try to get me to explain or justify the motives for the actions of these mindless sectarian neanderthals.
    However on the subject of justification for the removal of Dougan’s face from the mural, I again ask you if you did indeed support this action on another site.

    As this is the third time of asking, I wonder if you are having some difficulty computing this question through your brain.

    Over to you Comical…..

  • Anonymous

    A lot of people on this site don’t have an ounce of decorum, even when discussing the death of a person. Instead of leaving condolences the same old sectarian diatribes are exchanged. Pathetic.

  • Realist

    sick to the teeth,

    “I note that when challenged, you have immediately and laughably reneged upon your earlier assertion that the mural was defaced for a reason other than Dougan’s support for an All-Ireland team”

    Err – read my last post again.

    You’re stuck, aren’t you? It’s not hard – read it again, and get back to me.

    Can you also elaborate on any “glowing tribute” that you claim I have paid Derek Dougan.

    I respected and admired Derek Dougan as a footballer – I had the pleasure of watching him play when I was a kid. He played with great enthusiasm for the shirt he wore.

    In later life, he angered and disappointed me (and thousands of other Northern Ireland fans) with unfounded comments he made on a TV programme about the very people that had painted the mural.

    The night he made those comments live on TV, an undercover BBC camera at the most recent Northern Ireland game proved that his comments were spurious.

    In the same interview, Derek was forced to admit that he hadn’t attended a Northern Ireland game at Windsor Park for many years previous.

    I had the to opportunity to express my sentiments to him personally at a subsequent function about his comments. He expressed his back.

    The Doog rubbed many people’s rhurbarbs – deep down, I think that was something that he enjoyed.

    Is that a “glowing tribute”, or an honest assessment of my thoughts on the man?

    I hope he rests in peace.

  • sick to the teeth

    Realist,
    You referred earlier that the actual reason why Dougan’s mural was defaced was about comments made on the Nolan Show on a subject unrelated to his view on the All-Ireland team. When asked to specificaly state what this subject was, you have made vague reference to comments about those who painted out the mural and have not addressed the reason why they defaced his image.. In the absence of any clarity, I can only assume that you were deliberately muddying the water rather than accept the truth.

    The second answer that is still outstanding is……(4th time lucky) whether you supported the removal of his face from the mural.

    Any chance?

  • sick to the teeth

    Yet again no answer, Realist. I can only sadly conclude that you did indeed support the removal of the Doog’s image from the mural in the dead of night by these anonymous and sinister thugs.

    Fine and noble actions indeed from those in the vanguard of the efforts to improve the image of NI fans, yet who supported the disgraceful sullying of the memory of this great player.

    Paint-brushed and air-brushed out of history and all because he had the cheek to hold an entirely legitimate but different view to that of the baying, sectarian mob.

    On that terribly sad note, I will take my leave of this exchange of views with you as I am sickened by the evasiveness and stench of hypocrisy of your words.

  • Realist

    sick to the teeth,

    “You referred earlier that the actual reason why Dougan’s mural was defaced was about comments made on the Nolan Show”

    Yes, that’s why his portrait was removed.

    “When asked to specificaly state what this subject was, you have made vague reference to comments about those who painted out the mural and have not addressed the reason why they defaced his image”

    Obviously it wasn’t to do with his thoughts on an All Ireland team – he had vociferously expressed those views long before the mural was ever painted!

    The late George Best, whose portrait now adorns the mural in question, was also an advocate of an All Ireland team.

    In fact, George Best was one of four Northern Ireland players on the mural which included The Doog – George Best’s portrait was not defaced when he made any of his numerous calls for an All Ireland team.

    Why was that?

    It’s a bit hard to comprehend why two people who were on the same mural, both of whom were well known advocates of an All Ireland team, weren’t both treated equally.

    Unless, of course, it was something else that caused resentment.

    The Doog did not hide his “unionist” credentials in public either, whereas George Best steered clear of politics. Can’t of been that then.

  • Anonymous

    A nice tribute to Derek from the UKIP (the United Kingdom Independence Party)

    http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=3082

  • seanzmct

    Truly I am embarrassed for this guy, Realist. His refusal to reply to the question says it all about the bona fides of the ‘new breed’ of Northern Ireland fans.

  • Pounder

    Yeah Seanzmct, because one guy on a forum speaks for all the NI fans in the country. *rolls eyes*

  • darth rumsfeld

    Pat Jennings was a hero to the Kop when I stood there in the 1980s, and was never abused by anyone in my own experience from 1981 onwards.Sadly for MOPEists’ thesis the next most popular player was…er…Gerard Armstrong, and then probably Jimmy Nicholl for his psychopathic tackling.

    In his autobiography , written in 1983, he said that he was abused on his home debut by Linfield fans who wanted their keeper Iam McFaul in the team, but writing 24 years ago he said “some of them gave me a hard time when I first earned a place in the Northern Ireland team…[i.e. in 1964]….All that is in the past”. So there was a sectarian element almost 50 years ago-two generations back- which he didn’t experience perhaps 30 years and more ago.Do we still blame the USA for what happened in Missippi in the 60s as being represantative of 2007?

    He’s a former NI goal keeping coach, currently involved in and a patron of IFA youth football initiatives , and an honoured NI football ambassador wherever he appears. It’s such a pity that people on this thread haven’t the decency that Pat has shown in spades.

  • Tochais Síoraí

    What did he say on the Nolan show?

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    See Gerry Armstrong on Bits of Belfast on Monday night. Showed us all around the Falls Road.

    Most people in the South supported NI during the their great World Cup tournament in Spain back in the 80’s.

  • jim

    Darth

    Pat Jennings commenting on the Death treats to Neill Lennon in 2001

    “It’s sad the Neil Lennon situation,” he said. “For me there is no room for sectarianism in football, but if he’s receiving threats what else can he do?
    It’s just crazy and I experienced it right through my international career as a Catholic. I got a fair bit of stick, probably because I was closer to the support than any of the other players.
    “Neil’s always been a good player, it’s sad that it’s worse because he plays for Celtic. The last lad, Anton Rogan, got similar stick.”

  • Realist

    seanzmct,

    “Truly I am embarrassed for this guy, Realist. His refusal to reply to the question says it all about the bona fides of the ‘new breed’ of Northern Ireland fans”

    Not the first time you’ve been embarrassed.

    I haven’t answered the question, because it is totally irrelevant.

    jim,

    Neil Lennon, February 2007.

    “Fans like ******* are unsung heroes who have been brave enough to challenge sectarianism and who have actively created a more fun, safe and family orientated atmosphere at international games. They have made the atmosphere at Northern Ireland football games the envy of fans across not only Europe but world football. I would personnally like to thank them for efforts.”

  • Anonymous

    Pat Jennings commenting on the Death treats to Neill Lennon in 2001

    I did a google on this jim. The only thing which matched was an almost similar quote which you yourslef delivered on here in 2005.

    Can you provide a link for the original quote please?

  • His funeral is…

    Dougan Funeral

    Derek Dougan’s funeral will take place at St Peter’s Church, Wolverhampton at 1.00pm on Thursday 5th July.

    A large number of family, friends and official guests are expected to attend. Wolves will be represented by senior members of staff.

    The striking legend died on Sunday after suffering a heart attack.

    The club plans to mark his passing at a future game.
    source – http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10307~1062757,00.html