Attacks in Ballymurphy continue

As Mick noted previously, the policing costs during the 18 months of attacks on people and properties in Ballymurphy have been over £1million and the attacks are ongoing. Last night the home of the widow of murder victim Gerard Devlin was attacked with petrol bombs by 6 masked men and extensively damaged. It comes the day after an Andersonstown News editorial noting an expected Thursday evening picket at the “New Barnsley Police Station demanding that the PSNI does more to protect local people”.. and that “there are signs that at long last the proud Ballymurphy community may be about to act decisively against those who are making it their life’s work to bring the community to its knees.” Also worth noting was the UTV report today with footage inside the damaged house, which unfortunately they don’t have online, and in which Gerard Devlin’s aunt, Bernadette O’Rawe, referred to a large group of men marching through neighbouring streets, on the same night as the picket, threatening to force out families they accused of anti-social behaviour. She also asked the question of whose law ruled in the area – the police’s, the gangs’, or no law at all.

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  • Shore Road Resident

    Some confusion at the ATN – last week it was praising the police and blaming the courts for the repeated release of these guys after 27 arrests. Then it supported a picket of a police station.
    What’s that all about? Was the High Court too far away?

  • Rory (South Derry)

    Have the Provos gone away or are these thugs concerned residents maching on homes?

    Seems to like the ATN wants to skirt around the issue and not come out and say that the PIRA or former members are still trying to police the peace!

  • Kevster

    I realize this will sound completely insane to some here, but is it possible the police or courts are leaving these wee beasts on the street to see if they can force any remaining IRA men out there to react?

  • Frank Sinistra

    The obvious question was asked and not answered by the PSNI – are any of those being investigated police informers.

    Carte blanche for info on dissidents?

  • parcifal

    peteb … off topic, but there news of Alan Johnston being released
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1942942.ece

  • Turgon

    Parcifal,

    Check your link I cannot get it. Not on bbc yet

  • parcifal

    Turgon checked ,it’s ok redirects though so..
    try this http://www.newsnow.co.uk its brilliant
    updates every 5 mins, world news domestic news everything……..

  • Comrade Stalin

    I realize this will sound completely insane to some here, but is it possible the police or courts are leaving these wee beasts on the street to see if they can force any remaining IRA men out there to react?

    A quick google brought up the Feb 2007

    Have you noticed that on every subject, np matter how diverse, Comrade Stalin arrives at the same tedious conclusion-every problem there’s ever been is the fault of the republican movement.

    Time to move onto other threads in search of proper, meaningful debate?

  • Comrade Stalin

    Comrade Stalin arrives at the same tedious conclusion-every problem there’s ever been is the fault of the republican movement.

    I outlined the reasons for my opinions above fairly clearly. I guess if you can’t counter them the best option available to you is to shoot the messenger. If you think I’ve never been critical of unionists, you’ve got a sad case of a selective viewpoint.

  • saddened

    i wrote an article last night on your web page and i totaly agree yet again ballymurphy has beeen brought to its knees i feel absolute pitty on the good living people of the murph but yet have to point out that it was only eighteen months ago that the notarantonios were in the same situation now the tables have turned not that i think its is justifible burning people out off their homes is discusting but so is the nightmare for the other residants but yes these so called beasts should be locked up but i think that would be to easy they should give something bk into the community an leave

  • Ballymurphy is being used by the Provos as the testing ground for the PSNI, it’s so bloody obvious it is unreal.
    The ‘ra could have ended this 18-months ago, prior to the murder of Gerard Devlin (to be clear I would never support this, the rule of law must take precedent, but this nonetheless remains a fact). However, they adopted a Pontius Pilate attitude to the feud knowing full well that the entire ‘Murph community would have to then rely on the cops to restore law and order.
    The same situation is being repeated throughout republican communities in Belfast.
    Last week there was virtual murder in the Strand – in previous years this would have been nipped in the bud by the ‘Ra, but not now.
    The same applies to the war between two families in Twinbrook and the daily battles in Ardoyne.
    Republicans could easily end these, but they are under orders to encourage the community to involve the PSNI – something which I support.
    Oh, but how times have changed!

  • BogExile

    ‘One other point is that if these gents have been arrested 27 times but have not been prosecuted, it sounds to me like the police are going out of their way to disrupt their activities.’

    Absolutely spot on Comrade. It’s clear that the PSNI are interdicting the activities of these two munters effectively (It’s what used to be known in Repbublican communities as ‘harrasment’ before law and order became fashionable again)

    The telling thing is the community frustration articulated in the Andytown News that the PSNI can’t simply ‘nut’ the perpetrators like the ‘RA in the good old days.

    Welcome to the ‘civilised world’ where novelties like due process and evidence gathering and ‘witnesses’ take precedence over the law of the jungle. Inconvenient but true. It don’t quite fill the vacuum created by years of paramilitary justice by power tools but hey, that’s exclusively peaceful means for ya!!

    Instead of marching around New Barnsley police station community leaders should be urging people to stand up to these spides by giving information to the police they can use to proescute them. That’s the science!

  • nmc

    Instead of marching around New Barnsley police station community leaders should be urging people to stand up to these spides by giving information to the police they can use to proescute them. That’s the science!

    I know quite a few people from the estate I live in who have complained to the police many times over the various activities of the drinkers (aged from about 12 to about 20) outside the shop at the top of the Suffolk Road. Including two assaults in one week, both unprovoked attacks, one on an old boy of about 60. It’s not unusual for this to happen, it’s been happening for years, each and every Friday and Saturday night rain or shine.

    The only time I have ever seen the police, was on one occassion when they called them some names over the loudspeaker, then disappeared back off where they came from leaving a bunch of pissed up pissed off kids behind for the rest of us to deal with. It would appear to me that they could sort this out by putting a wagon up there at the start of the night to send the kids on their way, and maybe confiscate drink off anyone under the age of 14. They could even stick one of the speed camera yokes up and have fun ticketing speeding drivers, they actually use that spot anyway just never at night.

    It’s easy for people to dismiss all concerned residents as paramilitaries but it’s incorrect. I consider myself a concerned resident, concerned because they area I live in is slipping down the shitter. And I think the police could do a lot more, but they don’t and won’t. They prefer to do traffic duty and sit in the station drinking coffee.

  • francesco

    it is time for the whole murph community to stand up strongly and once for all wipe out from the area those delinquents involved in the feud.
    at the same time they all should tell those gallant provos left to fuck off once for all, they’re pure useless like, the ira could have easely stopped the feud, and restore peace in the community maybe they have been too busy shaking hands with their new best mates all dress up in orange…

    viva ballymurphy!

  • the Emerald Pimpernel

    How could the IRA possibly solve this problem

    They are not allowed to police their own communities even as citizens though it should be the responsibility of every citizen to ensure peace

    If the IRA even attempted to intervene the DUPers would use it as a convenient excuse to derail the peace process

  • francesco

    do not agree amico mio, if the provos really wanted to solve the feud and leave the community in peace they could have done very easely and in a very discreet way, like they did for decades in the area!

  • francesco

    and besides the provo’s lack of determination though is the psni who should now try to “deserve” the people’s respect making their present in the distric felt against those who think they can do whatever they want and run free everytime!
    it would be a giant step forward in the difficult reletionship between the community and the police.
    time to move time to stand up