Andytown News takes a bite of the Big Apple

So the rumours were true. Mairtin O Muilleoir’s Belfast Media Group (formerly the Andersonstown News Group) has bought a stake in the Irish Echo, with sources close to the deal quoting $4 million as the size of the investment. Peter Quinn, recently made chairman of TG4, is being pushed forward as the face of the consortium, which is hoped to have between 5 – 10 investors, but not everyone has committed their money yet, and some of those involved in the deal prefer, at this stage, to remain nameless. O Muilleoir gives it a low-key mention on his blog, where he also mentions being in New York for awhile.

By the way, if you are looking for a job, the Irish Echo is hiring…Publishing Ceo Wanted
Full-time PUBLISHING Irish Echo Group, publisher of IrishAmerica’s best-selling newspaper, seeks a Chief Executive Officer. Requirements: College degree, 5 years management exp, track record of revenue growth and business development, energetic, results-driven, passionate about Irish-American heritage. Desired: MBA or similar, exp in media or publishing, marketing, promotions, brand development, advertising sales. Sarah Archbold, Irish Echo Group sarchbold@irishecho.com (212) 686-1266 X 121

Background: O’Muilleoir’s Millions – The Rich Man With The Poor Mouth

Background: Sean Finlay, who made his mark as Meteor Mobile Communications director, bought the Irish Echo in 2002 for €2.2 million. The paper then had a circulation of 60,000. In 2005, he expanded the Echo’s circulation base to Ireland, and the Andersonstown News came on board to handling printing and distribution here. It’s circulation is now claimed to be 20,000.

The New York Sun notes this move may ruffle some feathers at the Irish Voice

  • I was travelling home from a holiday through Newark Airport on March 13th and I spotted Mairtin. He was on the same flight home as me.

    I was also aware that he had been back again since that time, so perhaps it all makes sense now! Something of a surprise development I would have thought, but perhaps it also reflects the ambitious ongoing development of The Belfast Media Group.

  • I worked for Daily Ireland before the plug was pulled on us in a very sick way indeed, roughly at about the same time I remember one of Sluggers posters (the devil) ranting about the ATN grouping in general, during one of these rants he intimated that money was being invested elsewhere I and a few others connected with the story at the time dismissed it and now it turns out that he was most accurate indeed.

  • in reply to a poster in the linked …O’Muilleoir’s Millions – The Rich Man With The Poor Mouth …

    New Yorker on May 06, 2007 @ 08:48 PM “ …at most it might have the attention of a miniscule and shrinking audience that has little, or no, significant effect even within its parochial community and certainly none beyond it. “

    Where have you been since the first IRA ceasefire ?

    1. Bill Clinton made a pledge as part of his election bid that he’d allow Gerry and Co into the USA. This was very much against the wishes of Westminster and The Dept of Foreign Affairs. Therefore demonstrating that communication w the Shinners was the way forward not exclusion, censorship and demonization which had been practiced by both Irish and British govs for 30 years.

    2. The AFI (American Fund for Irel) donates huge amounts for the border counties (north and south). This was contrary to NIO investmt west of the Bann or the Dept of Finance in the border cos. It also showed that including the Americans in any process gave tangible results… investment / jobs etc

    3. The first ceasefire came about as proof to Bill Flynn and Co that their efforts for peace and reconciliation in NI were being noticed by the IRA and to show the NIO that the Provos listened to the Irish Americans and responded.

    4. A lot of the Irish American work was chaired / led by Niall ODowd (I know he’s in the I. Voice and not the I. Echo) but it’s proof that the growing and increasingly powerful audience (Irish America) has more significance than most of the politicians from NI, Stormont and/or Kildare st.

    5. The Troubles were resolved by a handful of Irish Americans moreso than any of the fooking idiots in the Sick Cos

  • Suilven

    ‘The Troubles were resolved by a handful of Irish Americans moreso than any of the fooking idiots in the Sick Cos’

    Not sure about that, but before that they certainly provided enough money and arms to PIRA to keep the Troubles going on longer than it might otherwise have done. So forgive me if I hold the applause.

  • Token Dissent

    Andytown News investing abroad – great to see British state-funded businesses doing so well.

  • Cruimh

    Belfast to NY, not Dublin ? Mairtin should have had a word in Ipod’s ear about the lack of support for SF in the ROI.

  • Suilven “…but before that they certainly provided enough money and arms to PIRA to keep the Troubles going on longer than it might otherwise have done. So forgive me if I hold the applause. ”

    and I thought that the Provos got all their money from bank robberies and drugs?

    By your rationale (sic) Semtex came from Czechsolvakia so do we exclude Europeans, UDA guns came from Sth Africa via the British Govrn so do we exclude both of these too.

    If it wasn’t for the Irish America, Bill Clinton & Senator Mitchell the last 10 years of relative peace wouldn’t have come about !!! Prior to this, all the politicians from NI and Westminster did nothing but exacerbate the issue.

  • Token Dissent

    anonymous – I am afraid you are speaking nonsense. The contribution of the US to the process was of secondary importance. The dynamics that forced the Provos to give up their slaughter were internal to Britain and Ireland. And the US did nothing to help Trimble’s UUP support the Agreement – they were largely directed/forced to that conclusion by internal political realities, brave unionist leadership and Blair’s chicanery.

    As Suilven states Americans contributed a massive amount of money that financed the Provos; ironically enough often from American business interests when back home the Provos were treating any businessman as a legitimate target.

    I guess 9/11 forced republicanism’s hand even more, but by then the deal was done and old ‘principles’ had been quietly mis-placed.

  • USA

    Token Dissent wrote: “The contribution of the US to the process was of secondary importance”.
    I feel this under estimates the place Irish America holds within the republican lexicon. Without Clinton, Mitchell et al acting as independent brokers there would be no peace process. It was of great importance to get the whole thing moving. In those early days Irish Americans were an important part of the so called “Pan Nationalist Front”. These connections go all the way back to the Fenains invading Canada, the Catalpa raid in Australia, support for the 1916 rising etc.
    Also the above comments that Irish Americans are only good for contributing to IRA coffers betrays a political agenda, a personal arrogance and a fundamental lack of knowledge about Irish America.
    Have a nice day.

  • Token, your post is sad.

    Sep 11th in 2001 …….. which was 8 years after the Hume Adams Talks 1993 statement, then there was the ceasefire of 1994 and three years after the GFA of 1998.

    Some money and arms game from the States some (probably more), on the loyalist side, came from HMG.

    “…they were largely directed/forced to that conclusion by internal political realities, brave unionist leadership and Blair’s chicanery. ”

    and with that Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the “Token Unionist Party of Alice’s Wonderland”, I don’t need to post any further on the issue.

  • wrap the red fleg round me bhoys

    ATN no friend of the working classes, it made capitalists to live of the back of the nationalist people. Didn’t invest any of the millions in west belfast.

  • austin

    I disagree that the demise of the Daily Ireland was part of a deliberate strategy to advance the company’s expansion to the U.S. Market. I wanted to like the Daily Ireland but it was generally dull and lacked depth.

  • PeaceandJustice

    I hope that checks will be made as to the source of this money. Good to see Peter Quinn appear yet again. He always seems to be there when Irish Republicans need a business face.

  • view from the south

    This is a surefire winner. The marketing genii behind Daily Ireland, having conquered their homeland, are now on their way to taking over America!

    Pitiful beyond words. I love watching these clowns fall on their faces and they never, ever learn.
    Much like their heroes / bedfellows in SF.

  • Turgon

    I really thought the comments from anonymous were actually a wind up but no he / she is really that stupid.

    I do not think Bill Clinton allowing Adams into the USA had much relevance here, it may have had relevance in USA and Clinton’s vote I could not comment.

    In terms of money I do not know the figures but really was Irish American money more than that payed by the British government west of the Bann, or rhe RoI government on its side of the border.

    “Niall ODowd (I know he’s in the I. Voice and not the I. Echo) but it’s proof that the growing and increasingly powerful audience (Irish America) has more significance than most of the politicians from NI, Stormont and/or Kildare st. ” It may be possible that the bearded one tells you this at bashes in the states but its just not true sorry.

    USA
    Sorry before you said it how many people in Ulster knew the fenians invaded Canada. Incidentally it seems to have been unsucessful.
    “Also the above comments that Irish Americans are only good for contributing to IRA coffers betrays a political agenda, a personal arrogance and a fundamental lack of knowledge about Irish America.” No it is the truth and I do not think that Gerry would have been so nice to you if you had not given the IRA money. Did you not know that SF/IRA are a marxist organisation. Did Gerry forget to tell you that.

    Anyhow do either of you want to tell me that supporting terrorist organisations is morally acceptable. Is giving money to terrorists Ok? Have you been giving any money to help those terrorists in Iraq or are they not fighting for freedom. Or is it okay to murder British soldiers but not your boys?

  • Shore Road Resident

    AFAIK, the Irish Voice sells about 5,000 copies – it’s a vanity project. O’Dowd will not take this clear pitch for his little patch very well.

  • New Yorker

    Anonymous,

    You copied and pasted my comment from May. Unfortunately you do not read. The reference was to the audience of the Irish Echo. Sorry to inform you that President Clinton and Senator Mitchell do not read the Irish Echo. Indeed not all of 40million Irish Americans read it, 20,000 if you count the comp copies. The publication most Irish Americans read is probably the Wall Street Journal. I’m very familiar with the publishing industry in the US. How well do you know it?

  • Turg on “…I do not think Bill Clinton allowing Adams into the USA had much relevance here, it may have had relevance in USA and Clinton’s vote I could not comment. “

    Then why would the Irish and Westminster govts been so apoplectic about the issue? Yes, money earned at Shinner functions but also because it brought Gerry & Co in from the cold house syndrome (Trimble’s dismissive term). Most noted is your inclusion of “I could not comment“

    In terms of money I do not know the figures but really was Irish American money more than that payed by the British government west of the Bann, or rhe RoI government on its side of the border.

    Most noted is your inclusion of “I do not know the figures “

    “It may be possible that the bearded one tells you this at bashes in the states but its just not true sorry. “

    which bearded one… and I’ve never been at any of eithers functions. What did the Westminster, Stormont or Kildare St groups achieve in compare to that achieved by Clinton, Sen Mitchell or Bill Flynn? Nothing. Hume-Adams-talks in coordination with Clinton’s work/support then led to piggybacking by the Downing St Declaration and then the GFA.

    “…how many people in Ulster knew the fenians invaded Canada. “

    few, many more should learn history.

    “…No it is the truth and I do not think that Gerry would have been so nice to you if you had not given the IRA money. “

    yeah, like there was never a connection between the USA and Irish Republicans… other than the Fenians originalting from there, Pearse’s Proclaimation including reference to the USA (the only positive ref to a foreign country in the Proc), Dev seeking recognition for the newly independent country there and over the last, lets say four decades, the Irish Gov depending on the USA for foreign invest.

    “…either of you want to tell me that supporting terrorist organisations is morally acceptable. “

    anywhere, anywhere, in my postings do I support militant Republican activity… no … do you assume that just because I don’t adhere to your viewpoint that I must be a Provo? Simplistic or plain childish

    New Yorker “ You copied and pasted my comment from May. “
    I only saw your comment today… is there a timeframe during which I’m allowed comment. Anyway that’s only 37 days ago and you are commenting w generalizations about a large community … has Irish America changed so much in just over a month.

    Unfortunately I read the rubbish that you wrote.

    “The reference was to the audience of the Irish Echo. Sorry to inform you that President Clinton and Senator Mitchell do not read the Irish Echo. Indeed not all of 40million Irish Americans read it, 20,000 if you count the comp copies. The publication most Irish Americans read is probably the Wall Street Journal. “

    by that understanding we should ignore the editorials and info in the BelTel, Irish News, Belfast Newsletter etc as they have smaller distribution in comparison to the WSJ

    “I’m very familiar with the publishing industry in the US. How well do you know it? “

    I know the diff between an industry specific newspaper (WSJ for business) as opposed to an ethnic based one (I Echo or I Voice) and wouldn’t (unlike yourself) think of comparing one with the other. Do you know the difference between people having two sets of opinions and can read the WSJ, the I Echo / Voice and support the working of Clinton in working to resolve the problems in NI – it sure doesnt look like you do.

  • Turg on wrote “In terms of money I do not know the figures but really was Irish American money more than that payed by the British government west of the Bann, or rhe RoI government on its side of the border. ”

    here is a cut and paste from their website … “Since our founding more than a quarter-century ago, The AIF has raised more than $250 million in support of our four key goals:

    Peace and reconciliation · Arts and culture · Community development · Education”

    I’d bet that they spent more west of the Bann and in the border cos. of the ROI on those four areas than Westminster and Kildare St.

    If you don’t want that money then fine… I’ll request that the next USD 250mio be lodged in my bank account thank you very much. BTW how much did any other intl charity fund produce for the Sick Cos?

  • Jimmy Sands

    Glad to see they’re hiring. Perhaps Eamon Lynch is avalaible?

  • Turgon

    So anonymous the AIF donated $250 million in 25 years and that is more than the British and Irish governments spend in the West of the bann and border counties. My that $10 million a year is so much. I bet it might keep one hospital going for a year but compared to the spending (sometimes inadequate) on public services infrastructure education etc. by HMG it is trivial. Neither Britain nor RoI are exactly two thirds world countries you know. Actually I would rather you gave that money to stop folk dying in Africa but that is just a personal view.

    I am still waiting with baited breath to hear about the fenian victory in Canada, so comprehensive has that victory been. Incidentally do you think that the fenians attacking another state was a good idea, was it morally justifable?

    Your whole post is part of the “Americans have solved all the world’s problems” we hear so much about. Do you not see the irritation that many in the world feel about Americans runing around “solving” problems. This level of arrogance really does not help. I have not seen many nationalist / republican commentators from this side of the atlantic explaining that everything was down to Irish america. What help they might have given is more than out weighed by the unhelpfulness of their support for violent Republican terrorism.

  • URQUHART

    Essential reading in any thread relating to O’Millionaire and The Irish Echo…

    http://www.eamonlynch.com/work12.htm

    I never tire of it.

  • 1. Turg on wrote “… AIF donated $250 million in 25 years and that is more than the British and Irish governments spend in the West of the bann and border counties. My that $10 million a year is so much….”

    you really should try and read what is written; I wrote “Since our founding more than a quarter-century ago, The AIF has raised more than $250 million in support of our FOUR KEY GOALS:
    Peace and reconciliation • Arts and culture • Community development • Education”
    I’d bet that they spent more west of the Bann and in the border cos. of the ROI ON THOSE AREAS than Westminster and Kildare St.

    You’ll note that I’d to capitalize the section about the FOUR KEY AREAS (as I don’t believe the health care posted about by Turg On come within this remit) for the benefit of those who I believe Seamus Mallon might have been addressing when he spoke of “Sunningdale for slow learners”

    “Your whole post is part of the “Americans have solved all the world’s problems” we hear so much about. “
    again I ask that you read what is written and not what you want to take from print… I posted about the 19thC sectarian shitehole that is the Sick Cos not the REAL world.

    “I have not seen many nationalist / republican commentators from this side of the atlantic explaining that everything was down to Irish america.”

    Because this might show up the lack of effort from Kildare St, the west brit aspects of FG, PDs, SDLP. The full fledged Britishness of the Irish Thames and the Sindo. I wouldn’t have thought you were well versed in nationalist / republican commentry due to your lack of knowledge of the Fenians in the USA.

    “What help they might have given is more than out weighed by the unhelpfulness of their support for violent Republican terrorism. “

    again you harken back to that ol’ chestnut without responding to my hypothesis that should Irish America be left out of the Peace Process because of some small funding for the Provos then so should HMG for funding, training and info-distribution (targeting) for the Loyalists.

  • Turgon

    Anonymous

    I am still waiting: Was the fenian attack on Canada morally justified?

  • and wait you will as I don’t answer questions from those who ask loaded questions.

    I don’t answer questions from those who don’t answer mine.

    Your approach to debate and discussion is 1970’s style

  • Turgon

    Anonymous,

    1970s style. Well that is better than 19th century which a couple of posts back you were calling my country. How do you expect to be taken seriously when you use language like this “19thC sectarian shitehole that is the Sick Cos not the REAL world”. or for that matter this “Because this might show up the lack of effort from Kildare St, the west brit aspects of FG, PDs, SDLP. The full fledged Britishness of the Irish Thames and the Sindo.”

    I never thought of John Hume as a west brit I must admit.

    Before you describe my country as “19thC sectarian shitehole that is the Sick Cos” maybe you should think about some of the less savoury aspects of your own greatest democracy in the present and recent past.

    I still do wonder about the morals of the fenians invading Canada. Still they say the winner writes history (oh sorry they did not win).

  • I believe I addressed / covered the Fenian campaign with my posting Jun 13, 2007 @ 11:08 PM ….

    ” anywhere, anywhere, in my postings do I support militant Republican activity… no … do you assume that just because I don’t adhere to your viewpoint that I must be a Provo? Simplistic or plain childish”

    now are you going to address my many questions and points ? or will you just move on to another ramble like 1970’s whataboutry discussions versus 19C sectarianism.

  • Turgon

    No anonymous it was you who raised both 1970s and 19th century.

    I am still waiting to hear if you think the fenian attack on Canada was morally acceptable

  • AAaggghhhh, you are a waste of time – and today you’ve shown what a novice you are at this site.

    I’ve better things to do rather than reply to your posts.

  • Turgon

    Ah what a pity guess I never will discover about those fenians invading Canada.

  • Mr. McGuinness

    Apparently Mairtin’s first editorial will denounce ‘pajama moms’ for dropping their kids at college whilst still in their night attire-way to go Mardeeeeeeeee!