Not so proud to be British…

BRITISH pride is on the wane, according to a new study, with “substantial minorities” in Scotland and Wales not feeling British at all. The English feel more English than British, so perhaps devolution is having an effect in Great Britain. Interestingly, there’s no mention of Northern Ireland in any of the news reports I read, so it’s hard to gauge if ‘Northern Irishness’ is on the rise.

  • “Nortehrn Ireland” is not worth a mention. Most “mainlanders” regard the idiots who wear Orange sashes and bowler hats as, well, idiots. They are like the Afrikaans, without hteir redeeming features. Nobody wants to be asociated with them except Martin McGuinness and others on the make.

  • To be fair, none of the newspaper reports mentioned NI. The study doesn’t appear to be online yet, but it still wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t get a mention.

    If it doesn’t mention NI, it’s a failure of those who carried it out.

  • Ruddy
    Many speakers of Afrikaans are coloured.

  • And there are 20 Orange lodges in West Africa.

  • peter

    ‘Northern Irish’ was never on the rise. It’s Ulster-Scots V Irish from now on in folks. You’ll just have to adapt to the change.

  • As George Best said: “I’m Irish, NOT northern Irish, just plain Irish.”

  • You don’t get a mention because Northern Ireland isn’t part of Britain. SIMPLE.

  • Gonzo


    Who is ‘you’?

    If the survey was interested in how devolution was eroding ‘Britishness’, then it makes perfect sense to see if that is happening in all parts of the UK.

    You’d think someone like yourself would be encouraging such research.

  • Phil

    Here is a very interesting article on the future of relationships between the nations of these islands…..

  • pondersomething

    Perhaps it is the nature of the British identity itself which needs to evolve – from something perceived as ‘mostly English’ to a more balanced reflection of what its Scottish, Irish, English and Welsh components share in common.

    It’s by no means a perfect parallel, but I’m thinking of something perhaps like the evolution of Canadian identity during the Trudeau years – from an ‘English speaking, Dominion’ identity towards the bilingual, multicultural, independent Canadian identity today (which still retains much of what was best about it’s earlier identity too)

    As I say, by no means a perfect parallel, particularly as bilingualism has barely stemmed the tide of Quebec separatism. But it is an example of how national identities can shift, and become more all-embracing and more reflective of their component parts.

  • Nathan

    A diminishing sense of Britishness isn’t necessarily a negative thing…it makes comfortable reading for those of us who increasingly think in terms of an all-islands context..