Rates league table published…

THE Department of the Environment (DoE) has announced that all district councils have struck their rates for the 2007/2008 financial year – see them here. The Dept says that since domestic rates “will be completely rebased on capital valuations for the first time this coming year, a like-for-like comparison cannot be made with the previous year’s figures”. In terms of both domestic and business rates, Castlereagh’s are the lowest in Northern Ireland – making me wonder what leisure centres will close or playing fields the council plans to sell off next (or perhaps debt won’t matter so much to its ‘super-council’ partners in 2009…) Craigavon has the highest domestic rates, at just under 34p. In the non-domestic rates, Ballymena’s thrifty businessmen won’t be thrilled to see their rates soar by a massive 10.55%, though Moyle’s remain the highest in real terms at 26.3p. Banbridge’s business rate stays the same as last year.

  • Bill

    lets hope that rates will be sky high for Donaghcloney ;D

  • For a moment there I thought the thread was:

    “Rats league table Published”

    Blimey, I thought, they are giving awards for the biggest rat, Haddock a contender, anyone else??

  • Plum Duff

    10.55% increase in Ballymena!?! What’s going on up there? Are they paying off the dealers in NI’s drug capital?

    I demand to know from the Law and Order Party ( aka D’you Use Pot Party) what they intend to do about the present extortionately high price of a joint.

    [ Memo to DS – ;o) ]

  • True Blue

    Belfast Gonzo

    “in terms of both domestic and business rates, Castlereagh’s are the lowest in Northern Ireland – making me wonder what leisure centres will close or playing fields the council plans to sell off next (or perhaps debt won’t matter so much to its ‘super-council’ partners in 2009…)”
    What a contradiction in one part of the sentence CBC are accused of closing buildings and selling of lands to present the lowest rate or passing on big debts to the Super Councils. As a Castlereagh rate payer I am glad that this Council is prudent with ratepayers money and they have more assets than liabilities to pass on to the new Council a situation which many of a company would envy today,make up you mind which it is. Belfast Gonzo don’t be so churlish, perhaps you are a Belfast ratepayer and are jealous of the Castlereagh ratepayers sounds like it to me.

  • Crataegus

    True Blue

    It is interesting that the rates in Castlereagh and N Down are low and those in Belfast are higher. Do you think the two are in anyway related?

  • True Blue

    Crataegus

    There is no relation at all every Council stands alone Castlereagh has always been very pragmatic and prudent I cannot say the same for North Down. If the RPA is not changed some of the residents of Castlereagh will have to pay the very high Belfast rates. It will be worse for the ratepayers of some of the Councils next year as they are still heavily subsided by the DFP while Castlereagh is not so there may be more of a difference next year.

  • It’s worth nothing that True Blue’s defence of Castlereagh’s rates stems from the fact that she is a DUP Castlereagh councillor and helped strike the rate.
    How was your Christmas Myreeve? Go shopping for any Christmas trees in Italy? I hear the country has wonderful department stores.

  • True Blue

    Paul Panther

    Not worth replying too at least I do not hide my identity unlike you what are you ashamed off or perhaps afraid off I have nothing to hide.

  • Plum Duff

    Perhaps one of the reasons the rates are so low in Castlereagh is that they ration punctuation marks…

  • True Blue, when Christmas comes around again why don’t you ask Santa for a comma.

  • Crataegus

    True Blue

    The relation is that Belfast is left with all the problems of aging housing stock, urban deriliction, and areas with high proportion of unemployed and low wage earners. Castlereagh and North down are the suburbs.

    It is as if you were to remove upper Antrim Road and Malone and strike a separate rate for them. Bet they would also be low!

  • True Blue

    Plum Duff & Paul Panther

    Your comments are pathetic and churlish and do not deserve a reply. If that is the only comment, you have or can make I feel sorry for you.

    Crataegus

    Not sure removing the Malone & Antrim Road would make a difference, in fact, it may make it worse, as there are so many other factors to take in to set a rate.

  • ballymena anorak

    Ballymena 10.55%

    What is happening in Ballymena?

    Half the DUP in the DUP controlled council don’t support RIP

    They then vote in a 10.55% rise in rates just before an election.

    It will interesting to see who voted for and against this. I can’t see the other parties being stupid enough to support this 3 weeks before an election.

    It is obviously total mismanagement by someone in the council or has power gone to the DUP’s head in Ballymena with grandiose edifices to their memory when the council vanishes in the reorganisation.

  • aquifer

    Yep, Castlereagh and the rest feed off belfast and put nothing back. e.g. Work in Belfast, sleep in the ‘burbs. Their infrastructure is pretty new so they can get their spending down to close to the central government grant. Its a racket and the government accountants should catch themselves on. It also helps if you have no cultural ambitions outside of a sky dish on the side of the house. Roll on the RPA and abolition.

  • Reader

    Crataegus: It is interesting that the rates in Castlereagh and N Down are low and those in Belfast are higher. Do you think the two are in anyway related?
    The rates in North Down are low because the leisure services are poor and the average rateable value is high, and maybe occupancy is low. I would guess that the rates in Castlereagh are low because the Dundonald Ice Bowl isn’t a big drain on the rates.
    Compare with Belfast…

  • gram

    As a Castlereagh rate payer I’m not surprised we have the lowest rates in N.Ireland. We must have the worst public facilities in N.Ireland as well.

    Before anyone mentions the glorified tin hut that’s the ice bowl (there’s an old childrens play ground in there that reminds me of KampKrusty) and the peter and iris robinson centre. You can now knock up an ice rink infront of city hall in a couple of days and the robinson centre is a now 3rd world swimming facility.

  • Crataegus

    According to their site this would be theirpreferred PEB

    I must say both the above and the Rev brought a smile to a grumpy old Crat after a morning wasted by nonsense.

    So far I have had SF’s pack of lies, a down to earth SDLP, a slick UUP, can’t wait for the DUP masters of horror to produce that sequel ‘Ulster is DOOMED’ (81).

  • Crataegus

    Sorry wrong thread

  • wee willie

    Sinead (gram)get a life. Try to be a little less bigotted. Why not give the DUP credit for doing a good job. Castlereagh came out top of the value for money reports on local government judged by independent auditors.

    It is no accident that CBC come out each time as best council facilities with least cost to their ratepayers. The DUP consistently show they are best at managing the economy.

    CBC has more built assets and a larger land-bank than at any time in its history. When they sell land they buy at the same time. Selling land at high prices and buying when prices are low is just good sense.

    Well done Castlereagh. Sinead you are a raving biggot who couldn’t acknowledge good work if it was not dressed up to suit your political colour.

  • Alan Law

    Ballymena rates bill has increased the most but is still not the highest.

    The Councillors have adopted a tax and spend strategy, spending millions on the ecos centre and the new town hall. Although these projects were built with external grants, the revenue costs are funded by the local rate payers. The very same people who trot every four years to return fools like clarke, gillespie, mills et al (and who we now find no longer believe Paisley isn’t extreme enought anymore!).

    It’s a pity there isn’t a council election in March. This years rates bills are going to be prohibitively expensive.

    Alan

  • Shamrock

    Noone seems to realise that these figures dont tell us whether the rates will be lower for the area than usual that has struck the lowest rate or not. The domestic rate will be set in relation to the value of the properties so this league table in terms of increases etc may well change dramatically when the two are added together to make one rates payment.
    We cannot see from the Council set rate whether the rates this year will increase much on last years rates for each individual area.
    This will be the first year that Councils can make no comparison in terms of the setting of rate to previous years.
    It is going to be a nightmare for homeowners high valuations and high rates set by their Council and with the introduction of water charges too!
    Come on lets get rid of direct rule and get our acts together to have these type of decisions made by local people! And lets vote in smart ones who know what the hell they are talking about!
    LOL

  • The World’s Gone Mad

    paul panther

    When Christmas comes around again why don’t you ask Santa for a question mark?

  • Sinead you are a raving biggot who couldn’t acknowledge good work if it was not dressed up to suit your political colour.

    Sinead is a Catholic name.

    Sinead is criticising Castlereagh Council.

    Ergo, Sinead must be a ‘bigot’.

    Thanks for reminding us all how little the DUP have changed, Willie.

  • Doh!
    Post 10 can be either a command or a question. I used it in the context of a command, not a question, hence the absence of a question mark.
    But then I am sure you knew that given your excellent grasp of the English language.

  • Crataegus

    Shamrock
    It is going to be a nightmare for homeowners high valuations and high rates set by their Council and with the introduction of water charges too!

    Come on lets get rid of direct rule and get our acts together to have these type of decisions made by local people! And lets vote in smart ones who know what the hell they are talking about!

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Vote 1 for the person you think most capable and then 2 for the person you think second most able. Forget all this nonsense telling you how to vote. It is your vote not theirs and some of the candidates in larger parties are frankly less able. Not all are of equal ability so why vote for someone just because someone tells you?

    Also if you want people like Raymond McCord to do well give them your fist preference. If they are eliminated the vote is transferred IN FULL to the second preference and so on. It is important to the smaller parties, Alliance, Labour, Conservatives and Greens (and independents) that you give them your 1st preference if you really would like to see them elected.

    Use your vote to change this place. In the last 30 years what exactly have SF or the DUP achieved? Why should we think the next 5 would be any different?

  • gram

    wee willie: Sinead you are a raving biggot who couldn’t acknowledge good work if it was not dressed up to suit your political colour.

    I think it’s pretty clear from the statement above who the biggot is.

    Myself or my kids get no benefit from the “wonderful” land bank CBC have built up. I expect my rates to be used to provide me with facitities and services myself and my family can use. I don’t expect my elected representatives to engage in property speculation which has the negative impact of increasing property prices for the very people who’ve elected them.

    I have to travel to Lisburn to use a decent swimming pool. The Waterfront or Odyssey for other forms of entertainment. CBC rate payers are simply spunging off the facilities provided by other districts.