On line with policing

“SINN Fein leader Gerry Adams yesterday insisted that his party had already “come on line’’ with policing”, using the problems in Ballymurphy as an example:

Mr Adams said that the republican movement’s problem lay with “political policing’’ and that Sinn Fein “believes in law and order’’.
Mr Adams said yesterday that the disturbances had been caused by “two feuding gangs’’ and the “totally unacceptable’’ behaviour needs to stop.
“This is a problem which has been caused by two feuding gangs,” he said.
“Part of the difficulty is a lot of local people in Ballymurphy expect the IRA to sort it out and there’s no way the IRA can do that.
“I would like to make it clear that this can’t happen.”

Over to you, PSNI:

“We have carried out detailed investigations in relation to every crime which has been reported to us and we haven’t always had the support of the wider community in gathering evidence – that has been a problem in the Ballymurphy area,” Chief Superintendent David Boultwood said. “It is a very challenging one for us, but I’ve no doubt eventually we will bring it to a successful conclusion.”

A resident posts on Slugger:

its terrible that the devlin children have lost there father but must the fued go on? There r local kids destorying our community, why? the notarantonio family have went and r still going through enough. so people controll your children and leave this family in peace they are good people and they should be able to live in there homes. Our community needs peace. STOP all this evil. there are innocent people getting hurt.

Ballymurphy, once the cockpit of the Troubles. If real policing begins there under the PSNI, is that a fitting capstone to this era of the Troubles?

  • heck

    some local group does need to go and sort this out. If not the IRA or PSNI/UVF then someone should step up.

  • m

    Your ‘resident’ says: “leave this family in peace they are good people”.

    Many or even most residents would dispute this assessment of the Notorantonio family. Some may be good people, the majority are not seen as such by the neighbours that have endured them for years.

  • It is not a good sign when both the IRA and the PSNI are at a loss in finding a solution to the problems in Ballymurphy.

    Seems no-one wants handle this hot potato!

  • Yokel

    Heck I’m sure plenty of UVF members would shoot a few fenians if thats what you call sorting out.

    If that sorted it out would you complain?

  • I am amazed at the apparent inability of posters to see what caused the feud between the Notarantonios and the Devlins in the first place.

    It started after ‘Martin Ingram’ outed Freddie Scappaticci as the alleged British Army tout in the PIRA Council,’Steak knife’, claiming that he was protected from assassination at Francisco Notarantonio’s expense back in October 1987. Actually, Freddie was not this ‘Steak knife’, but another ‘Stake knife’ when the Brits felt obliged to disclose his identity in order to prevent more dangerous blowback regarding the real item.

    Under the circumstances, it was hardly surprising that young Devlin made some damning claims about Francisco to the rest of the family, and the feud was well and truly on, resulting ultimately in Devlin’s own murder.

    In short, this securocrat scapegoating of murder on the Notarantonios is the last issue to make a case for Sinn Fein joining provincial policing, since it is the worst example of politics dominating law enforcement, and others should simply wake up to the fact.

  • Pat Taffe

    Gerry Adams was mistaken in claiming there were two gangs involved in the dispute. There are in fact three gangs; the Devlin gang, the Notorantonio gang and Fat’s gang.

  • Fat chance!

  • Mal One


    Fat’s gang!

    What about Noodles, Popeye, Max, Fat Moe and little Jimmy?

  • me

    superb mal one

  • Pat Taffe

    The Notorantonio gang started it with the Devlin killing. Fat’s gang then burned a property belonging to the Notorantonio gang. The Devlin gang then started burning houses belonging to the Notorantonio gang. It is gang warfare involving three gangs. And the cop gang by all accounts stayed out of it.

  • And why, pray tell, Pat Taffe, did the feud start – what resulted in the Notarantonios killing Devlin?

    Wasn’t it because he claimed that Francisco Notarantonio was the Provo tout working for the FRU, ‘Steak knife’?

    By the way your logic works, you can claim that Poland started WWII.

  • Jim

    The spurious attempts to blacken the name of fransico Nortarontonio is disgusting. Remember the summary executionof J J O, Connor? The Provos could stop this so called fued in No Time, They have taken the opportunity to totally victimise, burn and harrass this family through the opportunity of the death a local Thug. I remember G Devlin as long as 25 years ago, and even then he threw his weight about and antagonised everyone, picked fights with all when he was older. he was really a dislikeable guy.I dont remember this with the Notorantonios who now because they represent a dissident viewpoint, they are now paying the Price for this..This is one Republican who will never ever vote Provisional SF as they have proved that they are the real Fascists and agents of the state, by thier pathetic attempt to spin the truth as a ‘fued’ and not what it really is, The wholesale intimidation and victimisation of the Nortorantonios.