Globetrotter

Internationalist Adams was also recently in the US, speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations. He said, according to the Belfast Telegraph report, that Ian Paisley would do a far better job of running the north than direct rule ministers, and that Paisley also had a greater understanding of Northern Ireland than did Peter Hain or other British representatives. He also made note of US fundraising restrictions that are still ongoing, noting that “about half” of SF’s fundraising came from the British and Irish governments. The full transcript of his engagement with the CFR is now available. Here is more from Reuters. The Andersonstown News also has a round-up on his US visit:

During his three days at the CGI the Sinn Féin President met former President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton, as well as a range of political and business leaders from the US and the developing world.
Speaking on Saturday morning Mr Adams spoke of the need for republicans and unionists to reach out to each other and to face the future together. He told his audience that he didn’t know whether the DUP was prepared to do a deal with Sinn Féin next month but that whatever happens the onus is on the two governments to continue with the process of change.
“Some unionists are still fearful of their nationalist neighbours. They believe that we wish to coerce them into a united Ireland in which they will face the same inequalities and inequities which we did.
“Irish republicans have no desire to follow that path. We are for equality. Equality is for everyone,” he added.

Sinn Fein also carries excerpts from his prepared remarks.

“The principle responsibility for advancing the rights and entitlements of citizens contained in the Good Friday Agreement lies with the two governments. And these cannot be vetoed by the DUP. Next months discussions are not therefore about a choice between Plan A – the restoration of the institutions and the implementation of the Agreement – and Plan B – the two governments agreeing new partnership arrangements to implement human rights, justice, economic, and policing arrangements. What is required is a clear commitment from the two government that they are determined to move ahead whatever happens with a continuous, seamless process of change.”

He also attended, along with Mark Durkan, Reg Empey, Albert Reynolds, Mary Robinson and Tom Arnold (Concern), Clinton’s Global Initiative conference.

  • Greenflag

    Adams should be ashamed of himself . What exactly has Paisley’s ‘greater understanding ‘ of Northern Ireland actually delivered in the latter’s 40 years of farting around in ever diminishing circles ?

    Adams would have done better by telling Paisley to #### off back to the 17th century where he belongs and that modern Ireland has nothing to say to Paisley or his ilk !

    ‘We are for equality. Equality is for everyone,” he added.’

    Ho hum -heard it before Joe . Nice words . Wonder what they mean in practice ? -Same as before I suppose – all stuff and nonsense. Tired clichees are no substitute for practical economic policies that actually work in the modern world !

  • Henry94

    Greenflag

    Who do you expect would be running what was left of the north after re-partition? Do you not think he’s up to it?

  • parcifal

    On style Adams sounds like a statesman to me,
    rising above petty b1gotry and divisions, looking at the bigger picture,
    acting with grace and favour.
    Its getting harder and harder for his opponents to paint him with horns and a long tail.
    On substance I particularly like this:
    “At the conference Mr Adams said that unionist reasons for objecting to a united Ireland were breaking down, such as southern poverty or the influence of the Catholic Church”.

  • Greenflag

    Henry94,

    ‘Who do you expect would be running what was left of the north after re-partition?’

    None of my business -That would be a matter for Unionists – Unionists don’t tell us who should lead the Irish Republic – thats a matter for ROI voters .

    ‘ Do you not think he’s up to it? ‘

    Immaterial . If he is’nt -his successor will be – It will have nothing to do with us . As long as the Irish minority in any new Unionist State have the same protections and rights as the small Unionist minority in an enlarged Irish Republic then who the Unionists choose as their PM is as I said above their business .

  • Greenflag

    On substance I particularly like this:

    “At the conference Mr Adams said that unionist reasons for objecting to a united Ireland were breaking down, such as southern poverty or the influence of the Catholic Church”.

    If that is substance then why in every survey/ poll and recent elections have only a tiny percentage of Unionists voiced support for a UI ?

    Think numbers for substance

    97% for the Union with the UK is substance – 3% for a UI might be style but it’s a long way from substance

  • George

    Parcifal,
    Gerry Adams sounds like a statesman without a state to me.

  • parcifal

    Greenflag
    “97% for the Union with the UK is substance – 3% for a UI might be style but it’s a long way from substance”

    Have you got any details on those polls, and exactly what questions were asked?

    Polls can be easily skewed.

    e.g If I asked hardline unionists would they accept a united ireland where there’s a picture of Persident Gerry Adams smiling in their living rooms, not the Queen, I expect 97% NO , and the 3% who’d say YES , would probably say YES because they can’t throw darts at the Queen.

  • Greenflag

    ‘Polls can be easily skewed. ‘

    I know but election results can’t apart of course from their interpretation . Based on election results it’s fair to say that 97% approx of Unionist voters favour the status quo within the UK .

    ‘If I asked hardline unionists would they accept a united ireland where there’s a picture of Persident Gerry Adams smiling in their living rooms, not the Queen, I expect 97% NO .

    Same result if Jesus Christ came back to earth and professed that God was in favour of a UI . I’m sure JC could probably avoid the darts hurled in his direction by incensed Unionists .

  • lib2016

    Paisley , whether one likes him or not, got rid of a whole layer of unionist hypocrisy. Without him there would have been no clean break with the old Anglo-Irish element who used the Orange Order to divide and rule.

    Because of him the UUP and the Orange Order have lost their old role which most people will see as no great loss. The DUP are what they are, a tribal pressure group to protect the interests of their own minority community. If not them then something similar would be needed in any future UI as a step towards integration.

    Paisleyism is a purely Irish phenomenon where the old unionism was neither Irish nor English but a divisive and dishonest form of colonialism. It had to go for society to move on and Paisley is at least part of the reason why it has gone.

  • Greenflag

    ‘Paisley , whether one likes him or not, got rid of a whole layer of unionist hypocrisy.’

    True . But also true that he replaced the previous ‘hypocritic layer’ with another , several layers thicker

    ‘Without him there would have been ‘

    An agreement in 1974 and not a disagreement in 2006 !

    ‘Paisleyism is a purely Irish phenomenon ‘

    Grovelling unadulterated rubbish . We Irish do not elect clerics to Parliament . Paisley is a British Unionist phenomenon along with his fellow elected cleric Rev McCrea and former UUP Rev Martyn Smyth .

    ‘Paisley is at least part of the reason why it has gone. ‘

    Indeed. He’s also the main reason it has been replaced with an even more backward and irredentist mix of fundamental religion mixed with unionist imperialism of a bygone age.

  • lib2016

    ….and you think republicans should be worried because modern unionism has degenerated into a local pressure group with little or no credibility? 😉

    Get a hold of one of Berties free buspasses and come North sometime, but do not leave it too long. The speed at which unionism is imploding gets faster by the hour as a tour around any hardline unionist area or a visit to any estate agent will show.

    What will follow unionism when the Brits pull out is the real question we should be asking.

  • nigel

    This is one President who should be crowned…,

    Gerry Adams, King of Spin!

    yet more PR dribble….

  • Greenflag

    ‘Get a hold of one of Berties free buspasses ‘

    Have to wait another 20 plus years 🙂 By which time there will be no more free lunches but there will be subsidised Polish and Mandarin Chinese classes for those who want to be able to order a pint in the pub or speak to a nurse or order a meal in a restaurant .

    ‘What will follow unionism when the Brits pull out is the real question we should be asking. ”

    And the answer is it hardly will matter .

  • marty

    lib2016,
    or a visit to any estate agent will show.

    Not so sure about that – My Lady’s Road off the Ravenhill for example – you can get yourself a terrace within a dash of the London Bar (though I’m sure that’s not mentioned in the sales ads) for £110k. Hardly a bargain basement price. Off the Beersbridge, Cregagh, Sydenham etc are similar.

    Personally I think you’d need your head examined paying that money for the area and property but that’s the market for you.

  • Greenflag

    Lib ,

    The ‘hypocritic layer ‘ of Unionism has been replaced by Paisley’s Bozone layer (n.):

    Bozone ( being a substance distilled from a mix of fanatical fundamentalism mixed in with victorian imperialism ) It’s a substance that that stops bright ideas or indeed any ideas from penetrating.

    The NI Bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future despite the increasing emission of green gases into the atmosphere.

    Bozone derivation for those who are new to the term

    Bozo = clown

    Bo + zone ergo bozone layer = Sedimentary layer of Paisleyism in NI geological strata .

  • Greenflag

    ‘ Hardly a bargain basement price. Off the Beersbridge, Cregagh, Sydenham etc are similar.
    Personally I think you’d need your head examined paying that money for the area and property but that’s the market for you. ‘

    Cashtration is what I’d call it 🙁

  • marty

    Cashtration is what I’d call it 🙁

    Too true. You have to wonder how many unsuspecting punters who don’t know the area have parted company with their cash…

    Anyway, I’ve moved things off-topic, apologies.

  • Greenflag

    ‘who don’t know the area have parted company with their cash… ‘

    Perhaps they’re hoping (and praying for ) longer term gentrification ? On the other hand maybe it’s all they can afford for a place to call home and it suits their need at this time of their life .

    ‘Anyway, I’ve moved things off-topic, apologies. ‘

    Not sure the topic was going anywhere anyway . People are bord to the gills with this eternal devolution gobshittery !