Murder is murder, sanction or no sanction

Lindy McDowell argues that the question of whether the attempted assassination of Mark Haddock was or was not sanctioned by the leadership, is simply a cute evasion of responsibility.

Haggling over irrelevances about whether or not it was sanctioned does not obscure that truth. The terror gangs which should by now have been history still hold this community by the throat. The people of this place never sanctioned their violence in the first place.

They certainly didn’t sanction the post-ceasefire extension of their drug-dealing and murder campaign. Instead of cosying up to them, our political leaders should be wising up to killers. A small first step would be to treat with the contempt they deserve, paramilitary gangs using cute language to try to distance themselves from their crimes.

Let’s stop sanctioning their “not sanctioned” excuses for murder.

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  • joeCanuck

    Ms McDowell makes a very good point.
    At the risk of creating a firestorm here, might I mention that there has been a lot of talk (justifibly) about Sinn Fein not “signing up for” policing. Surely, by their murderous actions, it is clear that it isn’t only republicans who don’t accept policing.

  • Rory

    It is the very failure of the local police to really combat these gangs and the often collusive activity of the police in their dastardly actions that deter republicans from signing up to policing, JoeCanuck. Hence the necessary demand of Sinn Fein that the police show themselves free from corruption and collusion with loyalist murder gangs and that the police service be patently accountable and open to searching scrutiny.

    It is surely in the interests of law abiding unionists to demand the same.

  • Yokel

    The cops colluded with people on both sides, knew people were being up and let peopel die because it suited them to do so…fact

    Ipso facto, the cops were even handed ….

  • joeCanuck

    Rory

    I don’t disagree; the point I was trying to make is that there seems to be some sort of double standard applying – for example, UUP cosying up to the UVF. Roll on the Ombudsman’s report and let heads roll (and in the interest of reconciliation, since dastardly deeds were done on every side, the head rolling should be no more than “voluntary” resignation – a line needs to be drawn somewhere.)

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Usual republican black propaganda from Rory that has nothing to do with the actual thread discussing the UVF and their “cute evasion of responsibility”, quote, unquote, regarding the shooting of Haddock.

    As far as I’m concerned, if the Blackneck “Eagle Command” on the Shankill Road sanctioned the attempted murder of Mark Haddock then I would have to agree with nationalists/republicans and say that the UVF ceasefire isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. However, if a unit from the 3rd Battalion of the North Belfast Brigade in Mount Vernon (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/mccormick/album2.htm#no60)
    acted without the authorisation of the central command, then those individuals carried out a criminal act without the prior knowledge of their leadership and it is they that should carry the burden of blame, and not the UVF as a whole.

    I just want to point out that I am not a UVF supporter or member, and have had “issues” let’s just say with some of their members before, but I believe they are free of any charges of wrongdoing in this instance.

  • Yokel

    So this is very similar to the killing of Denis Donaldson someone did it but it wasn’t sanctioned by the bosses of whoever it was that did it and if no one says anything….

    And of course no one sees a problem with any of this unlessits done on the other side then there’s a problem. Who the feck is running this country?

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Yokel,
    “Who the feck is running this country?”
    Tony B and his lieutenant Horrific Hain The Pain…that’s why we need a devolved government in Ulster, but the RAfia are preventing us from getting it up and runnung…no surprise there then, see:
    Florida gun-running, Stormontgate, FARC training, Northern Bank robbery, McCartney and Donaldson murders, Tohill abduction, continuing recruiting and targeting of loyalists and the security forces, extortion, punishment beatings, drug-dealing…the list could go on and on!

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Yokel,
    “Who the feck is running this country?”
    Tony bLIAR and his lieutenant Horrific Hain The Pain…that’s why we need a devolved government in Ulster, but the RAfia are preventing us from getting it up and running…no surprise there then, see:
    Florida gun-running, Stormontgate, FARC training, Northern Bank robbery, McCartney and Donaldson murders, Tohill abduction, continuing recruiting and targeting of loyalists and the security forces, extortion, punishment beatings, drug-dealing…the list could go on and on!

  • Rory

    I think you will find, Concerned Loyalist, that I was responding to Joe Canuck’s points in the first post to this item.

    My response to Ms McDowell’s article is, as Joe Canuck’s, that she makes a good point but, for me at least, it remains in the ‘Oh, if only’ school of comment and wishes sincerely that things could be other without really addressing the issues as to how to deal with the problem.

    It is certainly true that I am a republican but a black propagandist ? I don’t know whether or not to feel flattered. If the former I am unworthy since I have neither the desire nor, alas, the ability.

  • Garibaldy

    CL,

    So do the provos get no credit for announcing things were totally done and dusted and decomissioning? All the things you mention (save perhaps the extortion and drugdealing) are from before the Provo announcement, and Adams has called on the Tohill people to surrender to the cops. How many IMC reports will it take to satisfy you?

  • TAFKABO

    Frankly, I’m f*ckin tired of all this plausible deniability, lets have some plausible responsibility for a change.

    How about we start with Reg Empey?, I mean ferfuxsake Reg, if you want to exert influence on the UVF, why didn’t you do a deal with MI6?

    A few spooks in cushy jobs, and before you know it, UVF violence switched off quicker than you can say state involvement.

    Cui Bono?

    Not the UVF nearly so much as the ones pulling their strings.

  • annie

    Has no-one anything 2 say re this?? Now the charges hav been dropped?? Strange that!!

  • Pete Baker