Assembly without an Executive.. is a shadow?

The BBC are trailing Sunday’s Politics Show interview with Taoiseach Bertie Ahern with a report on his comments about Plan A, or rather the governments’ blue-print. Apparently the Taoiseach has stated that – “if we don’t [get] agreement on the executive you can’t have an executive. But that shouldn’t stop the assembly operating for a period of time while there is work for it to do and that could take a few months.” Except, without an Executive, the Assembly is dissolved after 6[?] weeks, and we have new elections. He doesn’t mean a shadow Assembly, surely?.. Hmm.. Don’t we already have the general opinion on that option?.. Or does he mean the US[sic] model?.. and what was that about a Plan B anyway?

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  • Belfast Gonzo

    Bertie Ahern fleshes out some of his thoughts on Plan A here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4821076.stm

  • Pete Baker

    Not much flesh on those thoughts.. but it’s clear the governments’ much vaunted strategy amounts to an interim Assembly – no Executive.

    Whether that Assembly will be purely a shadow, or if its intended to operate in some way close to the UUP’s US[sic again] model, is apparently as uncertain as everything else..

  • ingrammartin

    Like I said .

    The Joint Authority spin of the last few days is a wish list for the naive or slow learners. Dermot Ahern was getting the hopes of quite a few on here, he is a very naughty boy .

    Not that I did not tell you so.

    Martin

  • slug

    I guess Ahern will want to minimise Sinn Fein’s southern vote, in his considerations.

  • ingrammartin

    Slug,

    Ahern will do more than minimise Sinn Fein in the run up to the next elections in the Republic.

    Martin

  • Brian Boru

    Maybe a solution would be to run government departments through a committee system like how local-government works?

  • ingrammartin

    Brian Boru,

    Nice to see you have today seen the reality of life.

    Only yesterday Quote”If the Unionists don’t want Plan B, then they need to implement Plan A “Unquote

    Now it seems they do not, it seems they have their own plan.Maybe it is open plan.

    Martin.

  • slug

    “Maybe a solution would be to run government departments through a committee system like how local-government works?”

    Brian I think that is probably something the unionist parties would agree with, they have advocated it before. In fact its probably mentioned in the DUP’s proposals.

    “Ahern will do more than minimise Sinn Fein in the run up to the next elections in the Republic.”

    What more will he do?

  • yerman

    What’s the betting that whatever the arrangement is that it wont be called a ‘shadow’ Assembly given that SF were a little less than kind about that idea.

    That said however, it will be the same thing with a different name. The shinners will have to cover their blushes somehow as they enter it.

  • ingrammartin

    Yerman,

    Quote”That said however, it will be the same thing with a different name. The shinners will have to cover their blushes somehow as they enter it.

    No they are just carrying out clear orders from their Handlers.

    Quote”What more will he do?

    He will move towards attacking the Shinners infrastructure of the movement i.e. Finance in the next twelve months. The Tribunal in the South will be at its very height during the next elections and believe me many of the leading lights are going to feature very prominently. Good timing Bertie , but you fool nobody.

    Martin.

  • lib2016

    There’s about as much chance of another major tribunal starting as there is of the Paisleyites being able to cross over to the mainstream or the UUP making a comeback.

    Even the Indo wouldn’t stand for it, never mind his own backbenchers who know perfectly well which party they may be in coalition with in a few years.

    What the Brits and the unionists are underestimating is the underlying wish for a 32-county Republic. They’re still waiting for the dancing in the streets to begin in Basra and they’ll wait even longer in Dublin.

    Even the SDLP has realised (too late) that the winds of change are blowing ever stronger. Northern assembly or Irish unity – unionism’s last best chance and they’ve picked the Doc to lead their negotiators. Heh! Heh!

  • ingrammartin

    Quote2There’s about as much chance of another major tribunal

    It started two weeks ago and is expected to take two years.

    Quote”What the Brits and the unionists are underestimating is the underlying wish for a 32-county Republic.

    Where? Clonmel, Galway , Dublin Thought not.

    Next.

    Martin

  • Yokel

    Despite what politicians here say in support or opposition to this shadow assembly, they will love it. Its a chance to spout off without responsibility to make decisions…they’ve had 30 years of practice and they are comfortable with it.