Martin McGuinness Responds to Sixth Form Pupils – Reimagining Reconciliation for the Future

mcguinnessDeputy First Minister Martin McGuinness responded to a panel of sixth form pupils in an event today hosted by the Senator George J Mitchell Institute for Global Peace, Security and Justice at Queen’s University. McGuinness first spoke on ‘Reimaging Reconciliation for the Future’ before six pupils from Methodist College and St Mary’s shared their reflections on his remarks. Pupils from several other Belfast and Bangor schools were also in the audience.

In his opening speech, McGuinness spoke of the peace process as a ‘shining beacon’ internationally, and asserted that we are now in ‘the next phase of the peace process – the reconciliation phase.’

McGuinness also linked reconciliation to the 1916 commemorations, saying that they provide republicans with two opportunities: 1) to engage with unionist narratives and understandings of events in 1916, and 2) to promote mutual respect and parity of esteem between the two traditions. He said:

‘The presence of republicans at Remembrance events is a sign of respect [to unionists]. We need to match our words of reconciliation [by attending] key commemorative events of the unionist community.’

McGuinness spoke extensively about travelling around the world to consult on peace processes, contrasting his experience in Sri Lanka (where he did not detect a desire for peace) to Colombia, where he said that the parties were ready. He added that when he visited Colombia, the people he interacted with already knew about the behind-the-scenes mediation work of Brendan Duddy, and had even nicknamed the FARC back channel negotiator ‘Brendan.’

McGuinness concluded his initial remarks by saying that if we want reconciliation, ‘people have to want to be reconciled. I have a strong desire to be reconciled with people from the unionist community.’

McGuinness largely avoided reflecting on the difficulties of reconciliation, though he admitted that republicans have been on ‘an emotional and psychological roller coaster’ to arrive at a place where they could talk about reconciliation. He added that there were ‘those in republicanism who tell me I try too hard … [by participating] in initiatives without reciprocation. But it’s the right thing to do.’

But the pupils didn’t let McGuinness off the hook.

One student from Methodist College challenged McGuinness for presenting the 1916 Easter Rising and Proclamation in such a positive light, saying that he had difficulties with those who used violence to achieve their aims without a political mandate. ‘How can we celebrate 1916 … when dissident republicans use the same rhetoric to justify their actions today?’ He also took issue with McGuinness’ claim that our peace process took place when people had a desire for peace. ‘Throughout the Troubles the people of Northern Ireland wanted peace – what changed was the paramilitaries caught up with the people.’

Three other students from Methodist College emphasized that young people had a more ‘socially liberal’ agenda than most of the politicians on the hill, noting that they were deeply disappointed at the failure of marriage equality. ‘I was devastated when it didn’t happen,’ one pupil said, ‘but I feel more inspired to make it happen.’ Another said: ‘We want gay marriage – but democracy fails us on that issue.’

One student from St Mary’s and another from Methodist College bemoaned the tribal nature of Northern Ireland politics, wondering if and when we could get political parties that transcended the two traditions. ‘I am sick of looking to the past. There is no one to vote for,’ lamented one pupil.

All of the students said that tribal politics had turned some of their peers off from politics. Indeed, during the question and answer period another schoolgirl remarked from the floor that she ‘wanted politics as a career but none of the Northern Ireland parties represent me.’

At the same time, one of the St Mary’s pupils remarked that Martin McGuinness had inspired him, and it was up to the pupils themselves to inspire their peers – to communicate to them that politics matters.

In his response to the pupils’ reflections, McGuinness observed that ‘this confirms for me that young people are miles ahead of the politicians.’

But he dismissed the idea of post-conflict parties that transcend communal divisions, saying ‘that’s not going to happen’ and arguing that a better course of action is ‘cultivating the ability to work together.’

McGuinness was more convincing when he spoke about reconciliation in some of his personal experiences, which he gave in response to queries during questions and answers.

By way of example McGuinness said he ‘had the unique experience of being reconciled with the Rev Ian Paisley’ when they shared the Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister. He said that when Paisley left office, as a gift he asked Seamus Heaney to hand-write a copy of the poem ‘Hope and History,’ which he framed and presented to Paisley as a token of their friendship. He also presented Paisley with a framed copy of a poem he had written himself.

McGuinness spoke further about shaking hands with Queen Elizabeth and the symbolic importance of this, praising the Queen for the way she conducted herself on her state visit to the Republic of Ireland.

Prof John Brewer, who was one of the ‘keynote listeners’ at the ‘Let them Speak’ event for sixth formers at the 4 Corners Festival, was the main organizer of the event. It is the first in a series of events at Queen’s where politicians will respond to young people.

Brewer encouraged those tweeting about the event to use the hashtag #mybillni. This is providing a Twitter forum for young people to share what legislation they would introduce to Stormont, if they could.

Disclaimer: I am a Research Fellow in the Mitchell Institute.

 

  • chrisjones2

    “I have a strong desire to be reconciled” …fine ….then tell the truth about the murders and hand over the rest of the guns and Semtex and close down the Army Council

  • Granni Trixie

    If MMG is genuine ( the jury is out on that) why is he is so blind to the prerequisite of him sayng, especially to a roomful of young people, that he regrets he ever took to terror (given the day that’s in it).

  • Saint Etienne

    An event where the students are allowed to entertain both sides of the debate. Empowerment is giving kids the tools and opportunities to contribute their own ideas within a framework that doesn’t try to coerce with predetermined definitions of the story. Well done.

  • Ben De Hellenbacque

    Mmmm, I’d also like more exposition (whether genuine or not) on his assertion of ‘that’s not going to happen’. Is this a confirmation that he’ll never be out of a job (Sinn Fein: ad infinitum?) or an implied ‘you yung’uns can’t beat the dvision so you may as well join it?

  • whatif1984true

    I am no youngster but I would be interested in how MMG replied to those questions. I would also like to know what the students thought of his answers. Even now I want peace (as always) but still the peace is controlled by those who warred.

  • John Collins

    Amen to that.

  • sadie

    Quite unbelievable that he( Mc Guinness) said that. Where would he or FM be if we had a united, unbigoted, equal, society, the dole perhaps, stacking shelves. Looks like the whole sorry situation is set to continue.Another Good Friday tomorrow and the 18th anniverary of that Historic agreement. A petition should be started that we are being conned and that the GFA is not being adhered to by those running things. The hope of a better, prosperous shared future with equality and human rights is now a joke. Any attempts at equality /human rights are hindered. The economy and public services are being slowly destroyed. lf l knew then (in 1998)what l know now, l would have thought twice before agreeing to it (GFA) no doubt many feel the same.

  • kensei

    Its entirely possible that MMG doesn’t regret joining the IRA, regret spme, most or all of what he did, and still feels he’d like to be reconciled.

    Both the man and the movement is going to be more complex than simplistic demands for penance.