“The LCC particularly warns all unionists and loyalists against voting for Alliance”

Barely a week since the UDA was responsible for killing a man in North Down, the umbrella loyalist organisation, the Loyalist Communities Council (LCC), has issued a statement warning unionists and loyalists against voting for the Alliance Party.

Helpfully, the loyalists have offered “guidance” to unionists regarding voting intentions in marginal constituencies.

Arlene Foster came in for stinging criticism after meeting UDA leader, Jackie McDonald, days after the Bangor killing of Colin Horner. She confirmed that she did not raise the issue of that killing with McDonald at their meeting.

The News Letter carried this reply from the Alliance Party:

Responding to the latest statement, the Alliance spokesman said it “highlights clearly which parties are really willing to take on and challenge paramilitaries, and which are happier to chase and foster their support,” and added: “It is now incumbent on those named and their parties to make clear whether they welcome this endorsement from paramilitary groups, including those still actively engaged in terrorism and criminality, or whether they reject it and repudiate the organisations behind it.”

Sam McBride (of the News Letter) tellingly noted that, when pressed on this during the UTV Debate, Nigel Dodds refused to reject the paramilitary endorsement from the loyalist grouping.

 

  • T.E.Lawrence

    I will say again ! FFS Wise – Up !

  • T.E.Lawrence

    292K + 24K (FST) 316K Some Failure Skiibo ????? And you fools did not even see it coming ????? but people like me on the ground seen this coming from March ! Working Class Unionism got a wake up call !

  • john millar

    “I presume that you mean EU when you say EC.”
    It was called the European Community when I was seconded to it -old habits die hard

    “Do you perhaps want to address any of the points I made in the comment you responded to, or are you just going to continue making noise?”

    You make my point for me

    “Remember, tariffs are paid by IMPORTERS, not those doing the exporting to the UK. Unless you have domestic producers who can take advantage of their newly created competitive advantage, consumers will pay that increased price. DUH!”

    Import duty (causing rising costs) can inhibit imports and in particular reduce imports from a particular country They were originally a “weapon” to aid fiscal control and encourage particular trading partners via preferential rates

    http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-social-sciences/business/economics/2010-papers/economics-papers-2010/10-31.pdf

    To remind you- its two way traffic

    “Your ‘trade balance’ argument is a rehash of the ‘they need us more than we need them’ claptrap. You are wrong.”

    With the current balance in favour of the EC (or EU if you prefer) the ” loser ” in reduced business in this aspect of the divorce would appear to be the EC/EU. Currently all import duties are collected on behalf of Brussels and remitted to them. This will cease on any exit from the EC/EU and any import duty collected will be available to the UK

  • Madra Uisce

    The DUPs links to Loyalist terrorists and their endorsment by those terrorists are already being discussed by LBC radio and tory spokesmen are being questioned about it.

  • Michael Dowds

    I don’t prefer to call it the EU, it’s what its called. The European Community ceased to be a ‘thing’ in 2009.

    What points did I make for you? Care to elaborate or do you prefer to continue making noise?

    I’ll advise you, this little dialogue we have going is not a debate between a Leaver (you) and a Remainer (me), its me (a concerned citizen) challenging your irrational opinions.

    You said:

    ‘Import duty (causing rising costs) can inhibit imports and in particular reduce imports from a particular country’

    YA! Obviously! Hence the ‘Duh’. Why would you state the blindingly obvious/ What point are you trying to make?

    The point is that import tariffs only hurt consumers, particularly if there is an absence of a domestic market to compensate for the reduced trade from outside.

    You said:

    ‘With the current balance in favour of the EC (or EU if you prefer) the ” loser ” in reduced business in this aspect of the divorce would appear to be the EC/EU’.

    As I stated above, more informed people than you or I disagree. Remember that report from the IFO Institute, commissioned by the Federal Ministry of Economics and Energy, here’s a link, you might want to have a look.

    https://www.cesifo-group.de/ifoHome/publications/docbase/details.html?docId=19325470

  • Skibo

    It was a very good result for the DUP. Their vote went up but the UUP vote went considerably down, bearing in mind that Tom Elliot had a substantial number of DUP votes.
    I wonder will the DUP offer up FST so quickly the next time round.
    Is this the death knell for the UUP? Will we end up with a single Unionist party? Can all those 67000 or so UUP voters come out and vote for the DUP?
    The Alliance vote that I thought was stable has dropped 7000 votes. Are these the people who said they were neutral on the constitutional question until it was asked?

  • T.E.Lawrence

    You and your mates ran a Dummy Border Poll and you got the return 60 – 40 ! Anyway feck that you welched on the bet i am left paying the bill in the Welders for my lunch ! ps next time betting listen to the Uncle Andy Brigade on the ground and not the (Basil NI21) bull on social media !

  • john millar

    NAME NAMES

  • john millar

    1 https://www.cesifo-group.de..
    Is hardly a disinterested party
    2 I actually voted to remain

  • Michael Dowds

    1. Because they are in Germany?
    2. That’s irrelevant. The dynamic set up by the conversation was that you were coming from one side of the argument and I was engaging with that. In actual fact I was correcting your wrong assumptions.

    I’ll say it again, you’ve failed to comment on anything I’ve actually said other than your ad hominem on the IFO above. Why?

  • john millar

    “‘ll say it again, you’ve failed to comment on anything I’ve actually said other than your ad hominem on the IFO above. Why?”

    There will be losers ,depending on what happens next ( oh for a crystal ball that worked) The arithmetic suggests that the EU is currently on the “wrong” side in the balance of trade. Thus The point that I was struggling (obviously badly to make) is that nobody knows what will pan out -all is speculation

  • grumpy oul man

    This will be interesting, In a time when terrorism is high on the agenda a britist goverment has made a deal with a party closely linked to terrorism.
    Shouting themmuns everytime the linkage is mentioned might not work as well in England as it does among the PUL community.
    Interesting as well is that the bonfire season approachs with all the associated secterian shennigans which enjoys DUP support, the big difference this year is the British press will be all over it.
    Another murder by the UDA will make the headlined in Britain because of the linkage with the DUP.
    The DUP will be in the spotlight and that may not suit them at all.