Gerry Adams: “It is no skin off my nose not to meet the [US] State Department.”

Did the US State Department cancel a planned meeting by a “high-level US state department official” with the Sinn Féin President, Gerry Adams, TD,  after Sinn Féin withdrew support for the welfare reform bill, as the BBC, and others, have been reporting?  Gerry Adams’ latest statement would tend to suggest that they did.  Here’s what the Sinn Féin press release says

[Gerry Adams]: “The State Department’s handling of the issue of a meeting with me is bizarre. It serves no purpose other than to distract attention from the main issue. That is the full implementation of the Stormont House Agreement. That is Sinn Féin’s main focus. And Martin McGuinness and Peter Robinson are working on this as we speak.

“It is no skin off my nose not to meet the State Department.

Except that when the BBC started reporting the story, Mr Adams’ spokesman told them from New York that there was no planned meeting and that someone was out to cause “mischief”.  As BBC NI’s Gareth Gordon tweeted

That was followed up today by Sinn Féin’s Conor Murphy, MP, keeping to the then-party-line, speaking at Stormont…

 Mr Murphy said: “Gerry Adams was actually asked for a meeting today by the State Department.

“He’s in New York city today, he’s unable to go Washington until tomorrow and so no other meeting has been confirmed after that.

Until Gerry Adams’ latest statement changed the party-line…

BBC NI’s Gareth Gordon again,

[“Bizarre”, indeed. – Ed]

Adds According to a RTÉ report

A Sinn Féin spokesperson said that Mr Adams never had any confirmed meeting with the State Department during his trip.

There had been what was described as a bit of ‘back and forward’ about trying to arrange a meeting but it was proving difficult to match up schedules.

Mr Adams has now arranged a meeting with an official from the State Department tomorrow [Tues 17 March] but there are no further details regarding a time as of yet.

[So why the drama, Gerry? – Ed] Bizarre, indeed…

Update So that’s why the drama… From the BBC report (17 March)

A US State Department official is to meet Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams on St Patrick’s Day in Washington DC.

The State Department said the deputy assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs, Julieta Valls Noyes, would meet Mr Adams.

She has also met SDLP leader Alasdair McDonnell and UUP leader Mike Nesbitt.

The State Department postponed Mr Adams’ meeting with Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken because of Stormont’s crisis over welfare reform.

In a statement, it said: “Given the ongoing efforts to reach a durable accord on welfare reform to get implementation of the Stormont House agreement back on track, we postponed all of Deputy Secretary Blinken’s meetings with Northern Ireland officials until such agreement is reached.

“This included meetings with Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams, as well as Peter Robinson and Martin McGuinness, who determined that the best course of action would be to postpone their travel to Washington and continue negotiations in Belfast.” [added emphasis]

[And Gerry was the only one to make a scene? – Ed] Can you find the deputy assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs in the US State Department’s Organization Chart? [Don’t they know who Gerry is?! – Ed] Well, he’s not a Northern Ireland ‘official’ anymore… [Partitionist! – Ed] Indeed.

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  • Joe_Hoggs

    It’s strange that considering Sinn Fein,the IRA and Gerry Adam’s very murky past and present that includes, murder, bombings, pedophilia/rape (including protection of the perpetrators), intimidation and punishment beatings etc etc during which the state department was always happy to meet the Republican movement that it would refuse to meet the elderly gentleman due to the collapse of a political agreement.

  • Dan

    Maybe they know more trouble is about to blow Adams way and they want nothing to do with him.

  • Tacapall

    Isn’t it shocking Joe you’d think someone was trying to brush bad news under the carpet with unimportant distractions. Im wondering where are all the endless threads serialising every detail and every statement but nothing whats that all about – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31907201

  • chrisjones2

    “It is no skin off my nose not to meet the State Department.”

    What a wonderful quote.

    Who does that black guy think he is refusing to allow him, Gerry, to meet State. How dare he even convey that message to him via a message boy instead of calling personally to apologise that they just don’t have enough time to see him

    Why soon it will be him, Gerry, the great World Statesman and Peace Expert (TM) will be refusing Obama an audience. Lets see how they like that then

    I suspect though that some senior members of the Party will be looking aghast at this and thinking ‘time to go’ ….and it wont be the black guy they are talking about

    Time for Gerry and the dog to go trampolining again

  • Tacapall

    Is the black guy the message boy your referring to ?

  • Dec

    ‘Black guy’….dearie me.

    Anyway, being stuck in a room with Mike TV and Dr Grump for an hour will soon sort those State Dept types out.

  • chrisjones2

    A deliberate choice of words

  • Dec

    Yeah, because this thread just screams ‘refer to the U.S. President as ‘the black guy’ twice’.

  • chrisjones2

    You are trying to divert attention from a massive snub to SF.

    The choice of words was deliberate and in keeping with the apparent contempt for the US administration and its leaders shown by SF who seems to forget who is the supplicants are in this.

    Read the runes. POTUS makes it clear that Marty and Pete had better stay at home to sort out the welfare deal rather than swanning around Washington. Last week SFs economically illiterate polices caused consternation in the US even among normally gullible US supporters and today when Gerry washes up on the doorstep the door remains closed.

    SF now seem to be on a short rope as far as the US is concerned and todays smart comments from Gerry will just make it worse. Or to put it another way

    ” senior Sinn Féin figures have been informed of President Obama’s frustration with the political stalemate in the North. A source with knowledge of the process said “strong signals” were sent to Mr McGuinness that he should remain at home to resolve the political stalemate, instead of travelling to the White House.

    “It’s been made clear, through diplomatic channels, that the focus needs to be on sorting this out,” the source said.”

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/obama-signals-he-is-unhappy-with-turmoil-in-the-north-31069034.html

  • Adds According to a RTÉ report

    A Sinn Féin spokesperson said that Mr Adams never had any confirmed meeting with the State Department during his trip.

    There had been what was described as a bit of ‘back and forward’ about trying to arrange a meeting but it was proving difficult to match up schedules.

    Mr Adams has now arranged a meeting with an official from the State Department tomorrow [Tues 17 March] but there are no further details regarding a time as of yet.

    [So why the drama, Gerry? – Ed] Bizarre, indeed…

  • mac tire

    No, Chris, it is you who is trying to divert attention from calling President Obama “the black guy” – twice, as has been pointed out.
    “The choice of words was deliberate and in keeping with the apparent contempt for the US administration and its leaders shown by SF…”
    Why would you even think SF would use these words? Have you heard them use them before?
    I think your referral to the colour of someone’s skin to refer to that person is nothing short of disgraceful.

  • Zeno

    It’s another nail in the SF Coffin.

    They have produced nothing but empty promises for their electorate. Never mind the sex scandals. Never mind the money paid to research companies to produce nothing. Never mind the past. The problem is they have produced nothing in their time in power. Sooner or later it will sink in.

  • USA

    Load of rubbish. Adams in NY Monday. Schedules didn’t match. Indo full of crap. Adams at White House tomorrow. Calendar full.

  • Granni Trixie

    I always think the rush to the USA at this time of year is undignified and this Adams story is more of same. In the Clintons day there may have been some purpose in that it created space for networking and to push Leaders from Ni in the right direction. However I believe that nowadays Obama barely looks in the direction of Irish visitors from NI so the only purpose of the visit is to symbolically convey importance to people back home. Value for money ? Maybe they would thnk twice if they had to pay for the trip themselves.

    Btw,if I can come to Chris’s aid….His remarks came across to me as a wee ironic joke expressed badly — Im sure he gets the points made. Nobody died.

  • Mister_Joe

    The State Dept. is sending a deputy assistant out to meet him in the corridor after keeping him waiting on a hard chair for 3 hours. When they did that to Castro back when, he went home to Havana and called Kruschev to become pals. Wonder what Gerry will do?

  • Mister_Joe

    The line “If you don’t, it will damage the Peace Process, has worn so thin that it has snapped. Now feck off; unless you agree to go to Syria and show ISIS how so do it..

  • Granni Trixie

    Joe
    Talking of sitting waiting on chairs to be seenI remember as a rookie ‘tele ad girl ‘ on front counter of Bel Tel in 1967/8 that Paisley was waiting for over an hour to see the Editor. I believe he wanted to challenge a decision not to publish an advertisement for a rally he was to hold. To some extent the level of my surprise was linked to my perception of the newspaper as one which might be expected to support Paisley bearing in and that people said to me (as a Catholic) “you’ll never get a job in Bairds Tele”. I took a chance and had the most educational two years in my working life.,

    As it happens Bairds had sold the Telegraph in 1953 and by the time I arrived on the screen commercial values a la Thompson organisation prevailed plus values informed by the editor Jack Sayers who ran an I Back Oneil Campaign.

    Sorry if this trip down memory lane is off post…..it was my iPad wot done it!

  • barnshee

    You are being naive or disingenuous
    SF are the apex of a racket that uses public money to support an army consisting of advisers,community support officials, Orish cultural attaches and so forth.

    The downside of this is that SF have to stay in office to keep this bandwagon rolling. Stormont is safe -its feeding too many mouths. SF has no incentive to “produce” anything

  • Tacapall

    “You are trying to divert attention from a massive snub to SF”

    Much ado about nothing but –

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11471282/Theresa-May-Child-abuse-in-the-UK-runs-far-deeper-than-you-know.html

    “We already know the trail will lead into our schools and hospitals, our churches, our youth clubs and many other institutions that should have been places of safety but instead became the setting for the most appalling abuse. However, what the country doesn’t yet appreciate is the
    true scale of that abuse”

    From a British home secretary WOW theres obviously no way of avoiding the compelling evidence I suppose at least now we know why the reluctance to include Kincora and the whereabouts of missing children, whats that expression about getting your own house in order before you point at others ?

  • chrisjones2

    Well if SF will stride into Washington behaving like a 1930s Deputy Sheriff from Hicksville Alabama throwing abuse at the Obama Administration, it just seems so appropriate to illustrate the attitude towards the US Government and the leader of the free world

    And we see today that the skin on Gerry’s nose while undoubtedly still intact is being further rubbed in it as he is passed further and further down the food chain in State and told no deal, no meeting with the key people. At this rate soon even Clinton wont be meeting him

  • Dan

    …and the DUP with its network of offices, providing employment for so many family members and holier than thou church connections, won’t do a thing about it.
    Never mind the cost to the rest of NI, as long as those two sets of public purse looting chancers are in jobs, anything goes.

  • Tacapall

    The only person throwing abuse is you Chris, “Deliberately chosen words” about the American president being an arrogant Black message boy, this is what you claim Gerry Adams or Sinn Fein is saying but I’ve checked, and no they never used those words, that was once again a figment of your own imagination.

  • Dazzer Fury

    if SF were not there and wanting peace process what would you have left ? RNU and dissidents wanting to have the troubles back people dying again. Be glad SF made the peace process work. You can all sleep better in your beds tonight.

  • mickfealty

    Indo? What Indo?

  • Update So that’s why the drama… From the BBC report (17 March)

    A US State Department official is to meet Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams on St Patrick’s Day in Washington DC.

    The State Department said the deputy assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs, Julieta Valls Noyes, would meet Mr Adams.

    She has also met SDLP leader Alasdair McDonnell and UUP leader Mike Nesbitt.

    The State Department postponed Mr Adams’ meeting with Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken because of Stormont’s crisis over welfare reform.

    In a statement, it said: “Given the ongoing efforts to reach a durable accord on welfare reform to get implementation of the Stormont House agreement back on track, we postponed all of Deputy Secretary Blinken’s meetings with Northern Ireland officials until such agreement is reached.

    “This included meetings with Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams, as well as Peter Robinson and Martin McGuinness, who determined that the best course of action would be to postpone their travel to Washington and continue negotiations in Belfast.” [added emphasis]

    [And Gerry was the only one to make a scene? – Ed] Can you find the deputy assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs in the US State Department’s Organization Chart? [Don’t they know who Gerry is?! – Ed] Well, he’s not a Northern Ireland ‘official’ anymore… [Partitionist! – Ed] Indeed.

  • chrisjones2

    “the American president being an arrogant Black message boy”

    Who said that? That is NOT what i said., Try reading the post again. What it says is

    “Who does that black guy think he is refusing to allow him, Gerry, to meet State. ”

    Its the SF Hicksville Sheriff Attitude again – see post below

    “How dare he even convey that message to him via a message boy instead of calling personally”

    How dare he (POTUS) send the message via a mere ‘message boy’ in State instead of calling personally to apologise.

    I assume you can read and parse a basic sentence in English but I do understand your desperate need to try and distort and deflect. What pain all this must cause SF. I assume that’s why you are all thrashing about like this

  • chrisjones2

    Here speaketh the representative for HM Government

  • chrisjones2

    Absolutely. Let us have it all out in the open

    It was all utterly dreadful and awful and those involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law including those who committed the abuse and those who covered it up or managed Kangaroo Courts or threatened to murder suspects or exiled criminals to other places where the could carry on raping and abusing

  • chrisjones2

    Thank you Grannie for your forbearance. I agree with your point on the Democrats. SF have perhaps 10 years left when the Irish vote will still count for anything. The Unionists should suddenly discover their Latin roots just as many Americans discover they are 1/32 Irish

  • chrisjones2

    Yeah….that’s why he said it was all ‘no skin off’ his nose.

  • chrisjones2

    They dared to report it!!! Shock horror!!!

  • chrisjones2

    There’s always Putin!! Perhaps that why all the Bears are flying off the West Coast

    PS is it OK to say ‘Bears’

  • Rory14

    I work two blocks from the White House. Walking to work today, I got held up by a motorcade leaving the Exec Office of the White House…two of the limousines were flying both Irish and US flags. Per this article, I guess it’s safe to assume it wasn’t the esteemed statesmen Gerry “I was never in the IRA” Adams…

    In all seriousness, it was probably the Irish Ambassador or someone there for a St Patricks Day photo shoot with Obama. The State Department is a good 10 blocks away from the White House.

  • chrisjones2

    Yeah that will be sending shock waves across America and its all a huge conspiracy led by the Brits to use poor Gerry as cover. Oh perfidious Albion!!!

    Do you realize how desperate this tosh sounds?

  • Dan

    I see Joe Biden has put his foot in it again this morning, as he greeted Enda Kenny at his official residence…

    “No-one wearing Orange is welcome here”………cue awkward silence.

    Time for an official apology, methinks.

  • chrisjones2

    “Mr Adams never had any confirmed meeting ”

    is they wouldn’t see him but left him hanging in hope

    “Mr Adams has now arranged a meeting ”

    …. with the third Deputy Deputy Deputy Under Secretary who made him coffee, feined to wipe away a tear as she listened to his story about how Obama better see him or the peace process might collapse and made a mental note to (i) look up what peace process he was talking about (ii) book leave on March 17th next year in case she had this dumped on her again

  • Granni Trixie

    USA: sorry but it’s your post which is LOR.

    It’s not just the Independent which is reporting facts but most media outlets. Not an edifying sight for Sf to argue “O yes we were ‘ (asked to meet ‘ important people’ when clearly this year they have boobed by pulling out an Agreement they apparently didn’t read adequately. Now they have been put on the naughty step by Americans to get them to put things right. Pathetic.

  • Tacapall

    Funny enough thats not what Adams said either but you translated what you think he said all’s fair an all that.

  • Tacapall

    Obviously not as bad or as racist as Black man, Message boy and Obama in the same post but then thats loyalism for you. Maybe Adams was thinking something different than what you thought he was thinking.

  • Tacapall

    Dont forget the murder of children for sexual gratification Chris even though this site refuses to acknowledge the sheer scale and the warning by Threasa May that the British people must brace themselves for shocking revelations, and that what we are hearing about child abuse at Westminster and throughout the British establishment is only the tip of the iceberg. As long as Sinn Fein is there to distract attention and encourage mass finger pointing the true scale will be lost under the cover of diversion.

  • chrisjones2

    Ah I am glad that you have found your glasses and now accept your earlier accusation was wrong. Good. Thanks for your fulsome apology

  • chrisjones2

    Which bit of “Let us have it all out in the open” and “prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law ” did you miss?

  • USA

    1. State Dept met with SF, UUP, SDLP. Sorry to disappoint.
    2 Value for money? Probably with US FDI creating thousands of jobs.
    3. Absence of DUP noted.
    4. Commentary from some on here? Childish.

  • USA

    State dept met SF, UUP and SDLP. Questions?

  • chrisjones2

    Commentary / statements from SF – contradictory, revelatory and panicked!!!

  • chrisjones2

    SF met what in State terms is the pond life section. A clkear message was delivered

  • barnshee

    A deputy assistant- not even an assistant Jasus boys its an Insult to the Irish people

  • barnshee

    “if SF were not there and wanting peace process what would you have left ? RNU and dissidents wanting to have the troubles back people dying again”

    In what sense have “RNU and dissidents” stopped “wanting to have the troubles back people dying again”

    Be glad SF made the peace process work. You can all sleep better in your beds tonight.”

    The people who made the process work were the Brits who bought off the murder gangs and boxing them in with their polar opposites

  • USA

    State Dept met with all main NI parties except DUP. Fact. Deal with it.

  • USA

    US State Dept met with SF, SDLP, UUP but not the DUP. Fact.