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The new old firm…

on 16 April 2013 , 9:56 pm 13 | 72 views

Right – Cardiff City in the Premiership…looking forward to the South Wales Derby. Seriously – fabulous for the city.

  • GavBelfast

    Congratulations.

    Hopefully – HOPEFULLY – the derby will be a credit to (South) Wales and Cardiff can do themselves credit as much as Swansea have done.

    No need for room for any nationalistic crap here – it’s the (English) Premier League and mostly all about money and branding, after all.

  • FDM

    This is seriously a bad idea, from experience of both the Jacks and Cardiff fans.

    They should simply keep Cardiff in the lower league, where they belong.

  • BarneyT

    “The Cardiff City Soul Crew (Commonly known as the Soul Crew) are a notorious football hooligan firm associated with the Welsh football club, Cardiff City. Over the past decade the Soul Crew have become one of the biggest and most active football firms in the United Kingdom.”

    Its sounds like Cardiff will be the bad boys of the English premiership. The history between Swansea and Cardiff is not good either.

    I find it very peculiar that Wales are allowed to compete on the international stage as a country (not just a nation), given that they are a) not a country and b) exist as a principality of England under the St Georges Flag (and seem quite happy about it). Add this new development (two welsh clubs in the top league in England) and their claim is further debased (commerce aside). I am surprised FIFA are not pushing for a GB team as a consequence of this or dissolution of the Welsh national side.

  • Greenflag

    The Welsh have achieved what neither Scotland or Ireland have .i.e two teams in the Premier league . Soccer is about money these days more than anything else .Soccer fans in Cardiff and Swansea will get to see the best footbal in these islands whereas those of us in Dublin , Belfast , Glasgow and Edinburgh get to see the also rans 🙁
    Scots may object that their Celtic are Premier league Standard but then their opposition is the likes of Ross County ? Stenhousemuir etc etc . And now that Rangers have been demoted for fraudulent financial scandals the Scottish Premier league is a one horse race .

    Some years ago there was talk of a Premier League club in England changing it’s name to Dublin City and making it’s home ground here. Whatever happened to that idea -Possibly another casualty of the Recession ?

  • FDM

    Or alternatively you could go out and support your local Irish League team.

    I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the standard, as long as your are watching the current champions Cliftonville of course…

  • BarneyT

    GreenFlag – That team was Wimbledon…but for one reason or another it didnt materialise.

    I can see the immediate attraction, having a top level soccer game twice a month in Dublin City, however taking Wimbledon as an example, its great to see teams grow and develop (against extreme odds as they inevitably lose players in the process). The only way that is going to happen is if money is distributed and folks support local teams. There also needs to be some ruling to ensure teams have a minimum number of local players.

    However, I can see a franchise system in place perhaps in the next 20 years, and pitching a team or two over here might be an attractive option.

  • Blue Hammer

    “FDM

    Or alternatively you could go out and support your local Irish League team.

    I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the standard, as long as your are watching the current champions Cliftonville of course…”

    Batten down the hatches – I find myself in total agreement with FDM!! SUPPORT THE IPL!

  • BarneyT

    that has to be a collectors item 🙂

  • Greenflag

    Now I recall it was Wimbledon now languishing in the Third Division sadly 🙁

    What has changed in soccer as in other professional sports is that ‘success’ is on the side of the big battalions or more properly those who have the financial resources to buy the best players .

    Outside of Man Utd/Man City/Chelsea /Spurs/Liverpool which English Premier league has more than a very outside chance of winning the league ? Professional sport is a mirror image of the economy .

    Anyone who has watched Bohemians (the Gypsies ) play Drumcondra to a scoreless draw in Dalymount Park on a wet winter’s afternoon is not going to support an Irish League team 😉

    ‘There also needs to be some ruling to ensure teams have a minimum number of local players.’

    Indeed -Whenever I see a game now I can usually count the number of English /Irish ?Scots/Welsh names on the major teams .It’s usually about two or three -the rest are everything from Spanish to South American to African etc .

    Wonderful players of course but whatever happened to all those football crazy Britons -Have they all become too obese or what or is it they just can’t compete with the world’s best any more .

    Seems a shame -to me anyway

  • Dewi

    Just back from Catalunya – the joke there is “It’s about time Argentina got a Pope cos they already have God – Messi!”

  • redhugh78

    greenflag,

    a mute point but Rangers were not ‘demoted’, they were liquidated and the company that bought the assets had to apply to be accepted in to the Scottish third division – a new club.

  • Greenflag

    @redhugh78,

    Technically you are on the ball pun intended but the point I was trying to get across is that the Scottish Premier league may have become less competitive with Rangers in Div 3 .

    I could be wrong as i’m not an ardent fan of Scottish soccer although I will watch when a Scottish team is playing in European competitions

  • Rory Carr

    So now Cardiff can join the other two Welsh teams in the premiership – Swansea and Gareth Bale !