Everyone is dancing on that grave

When Vincent Keaney first published his monologue and dance on Charlie Haughey’s grave it was widely condemned.

Watch it again from 5:19 to see how right he got it:

Crooks we are now paying for…filth in limousines….even the man’s grave flowers are withered.

Though the remix suits the new Ireland better and perhaps indicates where many in Fianna Fail will find their eventual place in Irish history:

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  • George

    Right in what he said or right in what he did?

  • Alias

    Utterly disgusting.

  • plus four

    Haughey really was, yes.

  • Liam Cosgrave, Charlie Haughey’s political rival, said that Haughey had much more ability than his political enemies. Haughey has absolutely nothing to do with the present difficulties the Irish have landed themselves in and for which they blame everyone, even the long dead, except themselves.
    Your dancing clown holds up Dev as a beacon of integrity. How did the Dev family get the Irish Press?
    Though Vincent Kearney is obviously a very sick man, he should be made pay for this display of his own vanity.
    This is a really stupid post that belongs on bchan, not on a serious or even semi serious discussion.
    I am sure that our late Taoiseach is looking down on this idiot with the mixture of pity and contempt that he deserves.
    If this is the level of your republicanism, you should join the Socialist Workers Party, who latch on to any passing issue they can. The Union is safe is this is all its paper enemies can come up with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuCmZNvnxlI
    This tune has been used in memory of a greater man.

  • redhugh78

    While he is 100% correct in what he is saying, to dance on the grave of someone is quite frankly sick and in bad taste.
    Love him or hate him I’m sure his family (haughey’s) would be very upset at seeing that.

  • sam

    Charles Haughey was a crook who nurtured a culture of corruption and greed in the ROI’s establishment which eventually led to excess and bankruptcy.

  • DC

    The guy has a point. Good post Mark. Time for everyone to reflect.

  • Do you feel better, having got that off your chest.
    1. Explain McGrath and the Sweepstakes.
    2. Explain the DeVelera family taking over the Irish Press.
    3. Explain Jack Lynch and Whiddy Island.

    The building boom, cheap lending and greedy Irish landlords/voters gave rise to the mess. Haughey was dead before all of these kicked off. He had long been out of power before these really got going under Ahern, the most popular Taoiseach Ireland ever had.
    Best to blame the dead rather than the living or, indeed, to look into a mirror.

  • So can I go up and deface your grandmother’s grave to make a point? Funny how PIRA used to complain about Brits and Loyalists defacing theitr graves and here we are.
    Of course, this is an activity usually associated with anti Semites (swastikas on Jewish graves etc).
    This is how the descent into such abysses begin,. With PSF, we have a nascent SA.

  • DC

    Depends, if she ripped off a nation and told people to tighten their belts while she went out and bought silk ties and had taxpayer funded trips to wherever.

  • I dont blame this man for using shock tactics to get a serious message across. However, anybody who uses that king of tactic has to think through the side effects. Mr. Keaney, unfortunately, did not.

    Haughey’s corruption, as the Moriarty Tribunal noted, had devalued democracy in Ireland but history, when it is finally settled, may well conclude that it was his political mistakes, rather than his corruption, which cost Ireland most dearly.

    The years in which Haughey was Taoiseach (1987-1992) were crucial years in the build up to the Maastricht Treaty. In a sense, you could say that anybody else who was Taoiseach in this critical period would have adopted a similar policy on Europe and that would be fair comment.

    The biggest tragedy to come out of the euro failure (from the point of view of at least Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy) was that Mrs. Thatcher and the eurosceptic wing of the Conservative Party were lone voices of wisdom when they warned of the dangers of the single European currency. It was amazing, in many ways, that her arguments were not properly challenged. In the end the Nations of Europe, most of whom had suffered from invasion during the war, were driven to it by emotion.

    Haughey had a pathological hatred of Britain. His mindset was such that he was quite happy to adopt the europhile position on behalf of his party and his Country. Had he been a proper statesman, he would have looked at the arguments and engaged proper political debate. Not surprisingly, Ireland supported the treaty on the basis of an emotional desire to become more independent of its economic ties with Britain.

    Pathological hatred of Mrs. Thatcher still abounds in Northern Ireland today for different reasons but perhaps some might be interested to read the article by Peter Oborne in the Telegraph. As Oborne says, Thatcher’s warnings now read like a prophecy.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100064330/margaret-thatcher-knew-the-single-currency-would-devastate-europe/

  • DC
  • DC: Where is your grandmother buried? I can find an excuse to equal yours – his silk ties, her leather shoes (I cannot descend to the obvious sick levels this Kearney Provo phile gets off on, sorry) So you pick on a dead man, who did the state some service?
    Will you piss on the graves of Robinson and McAleese who travelled extensively on the tax payers’ dime (as our monster troll would say)? Or will you wait until they are in the Provo naughty book?
    Seymour: Your contribution is more considered. You forget, however, that the downtrodden Irish, the landlords, rackrenters and rich farmers who are now deserting, all wanted the euro for their own sound reasons. The Irish pound had no future and the euro was and is part of a wider script and menu that is not a la carte, as Alias has pointed out.
    Haughey had not a pathological hatred of Britain. He was a pragmatist, who was, for political reasons, dogged in opposition, so that he could get back into power. The Financial Services Centre created lots of jobs, something PSF croaks on about and of course, it gave PSF and other criminal gangs opportunities to finesse their tiger kidnappings.
    A proper Ireland would have had him, Liam Cosgrave and other competent players on the same team.
    As regards Margaret Thatcher, real republicans like me do not worry about her and quite admire her for the deference she shows to the Holy Father when they meet. Adams just makes noises and would gladly kiss her feet if it would help him get ahead.
    Thatcher’s opposition to the euro was part of her wider opposition and the reason De Gaulle did not want Britain in the EEC and why Ireland had to wait till Britain was ALLOWED join.

  • DC

    Fat people telling skinny people to tighten their belts while taking money off them at the same time has a democratic blow back, sorry it’s distasteful but with great power comes great responsibility.

    This is just a visible reminder of the secrecy the Haugheys crave.

  • Not really one for me DC, I think it was one (piece of propaganda) manufactured for people on the left. I have said that most of the political liars in the UK are in the Labour Party.

    It sort of reminds me of Senior Labour Politicians saying just over a year before the election “Labour investment versus Conservative cuts.” When Peter Mandelson realised the lie would not work, he tried to modify that misleading message to “nice Labour cuts vs nasty Tory cuts”

    Of course, we all know that Mandelson’s record of lying is legendary. He and Charlie Haughey are almost chips off the same block.

  • So can you name any Irish leaders who meet your metric? Have you ever seen Liam Cosgrave’s art collection? (he is one of the more honest ones but his son…). Don’t even mention Garret.
    People never compain about “corruption” in good times, only in bad.

    As regards the Irish: they vote Ivor Callelly, Michael Lowry. Pee Flynn and Beverley.
    As James Connolly said: Surely Christ did not die for these people.
    Of course, the other thing is: this is the best the rebel Irish can do. Pick on a corpse. Shades of the mafia who kidnap corpses.

  • DC

    Yes Seymour, Conservatives are far more truthful, they have a god honest conceptual analysis of economic problems, cut welfare and benefits and increase regressive taxation.

    It works to a degree at an economic level (it causes more social pain than is necessary at times) and the argument is electorally potent because end results will be achieved – therefore a ‘truth’ is created.

    But that’s democracy isn’t. Mobilisation of bias and vested interests, just glad it isn’t me that is being affected by it – yet.

  • Nunoftheabove

    Haughey’s tremendous greed, boundless opportunism and his substantial engagement in corrput and criminal acts over a significant period may not be directly linked to the behaviour of the cheap cornerboy spivs who took/continue to take the free state to hades. The relative toleration for it quite clearly can be. Water drawn from similar wells, at a minimum and six degrees of separation wouldn’t be required to connect them.

    Haughey really ought to have ended his days in prison and the same can be said of a number of those in or around office in Dublin this minute. The fact that they won’t do reflects very poorly on this ongoing toleration for well-set chancers, sleazy fixers and boardroom criminals.

    No self-respect, these free staters. None at all.

  • George

    The only people this man touched with his actions were the family and friends left behind. The main victim of this is Maureen Haughey,

    If she was the target, then he has achieved his objective. If not, then the man is nothing more than a cowardly attention seeker cushioned from the real world now because of his windfall.

    By the way Mark, do you believe he was right in what he said or right in what he did? It’s not clear from your post.

    I get the impression you have no issue with this type of behaviour and would equally condone the behaviour of a certain former unionist friend of this parish, who will remain nameless, who once commented with pride about going out of his way to stop and urinate on the memorial to Michael Collins.

    It’s easy to be brave in front of the dead.

  • DC

    Ah but there’s a very big difference, the unionist analysis is sectarian, this one is economic and the primacy of economics is vital to the livelihood of any nation. Therefore everyone should take something out of this protest.

  • DC
  • becky

    go to the whiterock end of the city cemetry any night of the week and you will see the local vermin wrecking n urinating on protestant graves so its nothing new.

  • iluvni

    correct.

  • pippakin

    Surely the only people to suffer from the antics of those dancing on graves are the relatives and friends of the deceased.

    It is an unnecessary and gratuitous insult to the family. The deceased neither knows or, presumably, cares.

  • Is this the same Vincent Keaney who won £1 million Lotto jackpot in the 1990s, lost it ‘ on a Titanic themed pub in Queenstown/Cobh (stil la West Brit town) and who has been charged on several occasions with drunk driving?

    If so, it is Charlie Haughey’s fault he got over £1 million for £1, and blew it on a crazy venture. That is how the Nazis and PSF got going: failed “businessmen” flocking to the right.

    Has anyone more dope on Keaney so we can judge him who dances in jusgement of his betters.
    The IMF will not be impressed by this sign of Provoism.

  • What, if any, is the penalty for dancing on the graves of dead PIRAs?

  • another

    “Haughey has absolutely nothing to do with the present difficulties…”

    And Gerry was not in the IRA?

    I think you will find when the definitive book comes to be written on how the bandits robbed Ireland, in the same way that all third world countries are robbed, that many many of them can trace their lineage back to Haughey. They were all in it together linked through clientelism and family ties.

  • So blame Sean Lemass who appointed and promoted Charlie. Or Dev who promoted Lemass (and did a number on the Irish Press). Or the Brits who fought Haughey’s da and Lemass. Or Tom Clarke who caused 1916……..

  • Sure, none of us can dance on the beach anymore without wondering if we are dancing on a grave

  • joeCanuck

    I know it’s really not the done thing, but I have done it once. I and my sister-in-law did a jig on the grave of the bitch nun who beat us mercilessly while we were in Grade 1 together. Now we didn’t make a public spectacle of it; just quietly one evening after a few glasses of wine.

  • pippakin

    joe

    The exception that proves the rule.

  • Ataboy Joe,

    By any chance, was the wine ‘Blue Nun’

  • joeCanuck

    hehehe

  • Nunoftheabove

    Bluenunoftheabove ?

  • Nunoftheabove

    ..I’m enjoying the apparent solemnity observed by virtue of the quietness of your sibling micturation. Way too respectful !

  • joeCanuck

    Make no mistake, I was sorely tempted. Inhibited by the presence of two fine ladies even although one of them had seen me in action previously.

  • slappymcgroundout

    “The IMF will not be impressed by this sign of Provoism.”

    He ran for office three times. 2x as a Green and once as an independent. Null points for you.

    Lastly, my gift to you, for a merry Provo Christmas, come early:

  • Rory Carr

    One thing becomes increasingly clear in this crude, distasteful piece of narcicissim – it has nothing whatsoever to do with the wanton destruction of the Irish economy, nothing to do with James Larkin, nothing to do with the Golden 100, nothing to do with Charlie Haughey – for it is all about Vincent Keaney.

    “Look at me. I’m Vincent Keaney. Aren’t I clever? Aren’t I pretty? Don’t you love my sailor costume?”

    And the answer comes ringing true and clear:

    “No ! No! and No! again. Feck off you self-absorbed little bowsie !”

  • I gave you (and R Carr) the coveted dix points. Where did Mr Keaney run for election? is he the same dude who won the jackpot?
    Yes, the video was worth watching.

  • slappymcgroundout
  • DC
  • DC

    Disrespectful dance on grave may be dirty germ of an agent of change

    OPINION: Vincent Keaney is a graffiti artist whose mischief articulates the plight of the powerless, writes JOHN FLEMING

    So, it’s no coincidence that most of the critical commenters on this blog appear to be Tories of sort and pro-establishment government supporters, neither are powerless nor without money.

    Most of all they – like FF – wont be the ones paying for it, the people who need public services and public sector jobs will be.

    If the Haughey family’s feelings are hurt perhaps it’s time to exchange feelings for finance and hand in his State pension.

    What a sick video blah blah blah….not as sick as the likely thousands sent to early graves as a result of poverty from socialism for bankers.

    My heart bleeds it really does:

    http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/daily-mail-london-england-the/mi_8002/is_2007_Sept_3/haugheys-widow-leave-abbeville-maureen/ai_n38615542/

  • Slappy: Another coveted dix points for you. Eilis O’Hanlon, niece of IRA godfather Joe Cahill, makes some excellent points, which are of use here.
    1. Keaney is both a political and business failure. He is not the one to lead the van of Revenge for Skibereen.
    2. Keaney got things handed to him on a plate and messed it up. So true of so many Irish today. Like them he blames everyoner except himself.
    3. The story DC links too is typical Irish Times. All empty cliches, no facts.

  • DC

    The dull reaction to Keaney’s act showed how lame we really are. The performance was provocative; it was offensive (like the Iraqi journalist throwing a shoe at Bush), but inspired. The man held up to scrutiny our slavish respect for agents of graft; he aired our national veneration of people who can be bought – of people who buy and sell us.

    Alanmaskey is bought!

  • slappymcgroundout

    DC:

    (1) I only linked to the one piece because the piece recites the info re driving while intoxicated, lottery winner, and failed Green candidate;

    (2) but if you want my opinion, Rory is correct. And my agreement isn’t because of any love I have for Charles Haughey or any respect I have for the graves of dead folk. Instead, the “protest” is simply lame. How in the hell do you “protest” a dead person? You can’t. And as a “protest” against the living it will be easily ignored. So it was all about our man having his self-described “greatest moment”. Perhaps his children will understand that it wasn’t their births, but his dancing on a grave that was his “greatest”. That about sums it up.

  • DC: The Iraqi journalist is a brave, honest and true man. Nothing like Keaney or Adams’ mates George Bush and Peter King.
    I am not bought. I am a Connolly socialist. Let us remember PH Pearse (who was going in the right direction with The Sovereign People).
    Certainly, when you visit my grave to pay your respects to me, to my ancestors and to all the living and dead, you will remember for here, from Pearse, is my part epitaph, as per my will

    I am flesh of the flesh of these lowly, I am bone of their bone,
    I that have never submitted;
    I that have a soul greater than the souls of my people’s masters,
    I that have vision and prophecy and the gift of fiery speech,
    I that have spoken with God on the top of His holy hill.

    And because I am of the people, I understand the people,
    I am sorrowful with their sorrow, I am hungry with their desire:
    My heart has been heavy with the grief of mothers,
    My eyes have been wet with the tears of children.
    I have yearned with wistful old men,
    And laughed or cursed with young men;
    Their shame is my shame, and I have reddened for it,
    Reddened for that they have served, they who should be free,
    Reddened for that they have gone in want, while others have been full,
    Reddened for that they have walked in fear of lawyers and of their jailers
    With their writs of summons and their handcuffs,
    Men mean and cruel!
    I could have borne stripes on my body rather than this shame of my people.

    And now I speak, being full of vision;
    I speak to my people, and I speak in my people’s name to the masters of my people,
    I say to my people that they are august, despite their chains,
    That they are greater than those that hold them, and stronger and purer,
    That they have but need of courage, and to call on the name of their God,
    God the unforgetting, the dear God that loves the peoples
    For whom He died naked, suffering shame.
    And I say to my people’s masters: Beware,
    Beware of the thing that is coming, beware of the risen people,
    Who shall take what ye would not give. Did ye think to conquer the people,
    Or that Law is stronger than life and than men’s desire to be free?
    We will try it out with you, ye that have harried and held,
    Ye that have bullied and bribed, tyrants, hypocrites, liars!

  • DC

    Well we have what is called a diversity of opinion then.

    There are some good comments about it in the Irish Times comments section as well.