Just when you thought you were out…

They pull you back in.  Shaun Woodward has been named as shadow secretary of state for Northern Ireland.  Nevermind, Shaun.  It could’ve been worse… [Worse?!  How? – Ed].  Could have been Wales…

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  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    The boy Shaun did an excellent job, not only beating the DUP’s arse with the threat of Papal influence from the Southern Territories when they tried to block progress on the transfer of Police but by generally keeping that old peace train on the tracks.

    Oweney, although making an effort by going Native with his trip to Croker, will need to improve as the current muddle he has gotten himself in shows and you know you have made a Pigs Mickey out of it when the DUP leader starts to praise the Southern Irish Territories as the example you need to follow.

    So If we have to have one of these overseas diplomats then Shaun’s yer man but surely in these times of austerity there is little call for such malarkey as Robbo and Marty can simply knock on the door of number 10 and save a few bob that can be pissed up against a wall on trident or such like.

  • GoldenFleece

    Gotta disagree Sammy, I never thought we would get a more slippery NI secretery than Hain, how wrong was I?

    Woodward is a career politican I clearly did not give a damn about Northern Ireland.

    In contrast the new NI secretery seems to spend most of his time here.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    In Ulster slippery can be good and the basis for the outbreak of political progress and relative lack of violence is the GFA a document which takes slippery to a new level – ie an international agreement.

    …and I also disagree with you about the relative slipperyness of Hain and Shauney – with the former as slippery as as slipper what has gone to Oxford University to study the noble art itslef and way ahead of the latter.

  • joeCanuck

    For the sake of accuracy, was he pulled in or did he apply for the position?
    I’m not sure how Shadow ministers get appointed.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    There was no other choice.
    Nobody in the Top 19 elected would actually have wanted Norn Iron so give it to someone NOT in the Top 19…thus showing the priority given to Norn Iron…Labour not even organising here.
    Which puts it in a different position from Wales which at least has Labour MPs as well as an organisation. But no Welsh MP made it into the Top 19 either. Thus saving Hain from oblivion.

  • joeCanuck

    Peter Hain and Shaun Woodward, who both failed to gain enough votes from MPs in shadow cabinet elections, will carry on shadowing Wales and Northern Ireland respectively, as part of a handful of posts appointed at the leader’s discretion.

  • Cynic

    Is it true he was known in the NIO as Shaun ‘Crisis’ Woodward as the only time they saw him as when there was one?

  • pippakin

    Not at all surprised Woodwards is shadow sec of state. The north is a political graveyard for the British, can’t imagine anyone with half a chance of anything better volunteering.

  • Seniorhas

    Fitz, Labour is organising here – there is a Northern Ireland CLP, and, hopefully, will be putting up candidates in the next elections. We will be working with the Shadow SoS.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    The north is a political graveyard for the British

    …and particulalry for those that stand for election.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit


    If the Labour Party stand there will be seven Unionist parties to choose from. Cant fault it.

  • Pete Baker

    It’s in the humour category, guys.

  • joeCanuck

    That’s great. The NILP always was my first choice when I had a vote.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Dont be silly.

  • joeCanuck

    Thankfully, there is no law against being silly, stupid even.

  • joeCanuck

    Good reminder. We need to stop being too serious once in a while. 😉

  • pippakin

    Well it made me smile. An oldie but goldie.

  • Recognise the obvious: the only reason there is a Secretary of State for NI is because it is politically impossible to downgrade the other two colonial territories.

    Otherwise there would be a Secretary of State for the Devolved territories. Even then it would hardly be the most taxing job.

  • Framer

    Whitelaw, Mandelson, Hurd and Reid for four all got better jobs afterwards.

  • Wasted Ballot

    Sammy your comment on labour being a unionist party in NI shows how little you know about what they are trying to achieve. Ignorance is bliss.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Wasted Ballot,

    Without wishing to encourage your somewhat abusive style perhaps you might like to help me out of my state of ‘ignorance’ by stating clearly what the labour party policy is. Please dont offer to throw a big grey sheet over the elephant in the living room by jibber-jabbering about working class solidarity – within the Union.

    We here in Ireland are by and large a peacful bunch (though we are as you may have noticed a bit touchy on the National question) and we generally take a dim view on those who go to war and wreak international devastation for their own poltical interests and unlike those in Britian who although protesting about it duly re-elected the Labour party we are not likley to simply forget about it or as the British public subsequently didi elect an equally war mongering party in the shape of the Tories.

    In spite of the (opportunistic) words from Eddie what-do-I-need-to-say-to-get-elected the Labour party’s disgraceful behaviour (cheered on by the Tories) illustrates perfectly why politicis in Ireland is much better viewed and organised on an all-island basis.

    Any excees capacity the Labour Party has in trying to regain power in Britian would be better directed as trying to repair the damage they have caused international relations and perhaps they might get that process under way by de-selecting all MPs who supported or cheered on the war in Iraq.

    Of course like their fellow war mongers the Tories they are unlikley to heed such advice and will probably provide us all with a good laugh as they put themselves through the same embarassment at the polls as the Tories enjoyed in the Westminsters.