Crilly trial over Nairac murder to proceed

The BBC notes that Belfast Crown Court judge Mr Justice Hart has thrown out an application by Kevin Crilly’s lawyers that he had no case to answer over the murder of Captain Robert Nairac in 1977.  From the BBC report

Mr Crilly, from Lower Faughill Road, Jonesborough will formally be arraigned before the Crown Court next week.

He is to be charged with the soldier’s murder along with two counts of false imprisonment and two charges of kidnapping.

Six men have already been jailed in connection with the SAS captain’s disappearance, three of them for murder.

As I mentioned in November last year, Crilly, who spent 29 years in the US and who had been charged with the kidnap and assault of Nairac in 2008, was revealed to have returned to Northern Ireland by a BBC NI Spotlight investigation in 2007 – which the NI deputy First Minister didn’t see..

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  • johnno

    Didn’t a judgerecently throw out an attempt to pursue the RUC killers of Nora McCabe because of the length of time that had passed?

    So, if you smash the skull of a Catholic mother it’s alright if a few decades pass – but it’s a different matter if you kill a swaggering fool from the SAS?

  • Argosjohn

    Poor, persecuted guy. Nairac, a member of Britain’s equivalent of the SS, a Jesuit educated guy with “issues”, implicated ina number of largely forgotten bombing and kidnapping atrocities, akin to the two SAS terrorists detained in Basra, who were freed by their fellow SAS criminals.

    Crlly deserves a medal not a jail sentence.

  • TheHorse

    Lets not forget the Special Branch officers who colluded with the Mount Vernon UVF in murdering dozens of innocent people. The same officers who also colluded with the UDA to murder the solicitor Pat Finucane is the PPS or the PSNI activly pursung these people. I guess we will get the old “Its not in the publics interest”

  • Reader

    Argosjohn: Crlly deserves a medal not a jail sentence.
    Why? Are you saying he actually did it?

  • asgard

    think i’m missing something here , how can you have a murder trial when there is no body , it seems that republicans get tried for murder when there’s no body and loyalists don’t get tried for murder when there is a body . strange but true

  • Reader

    asgard: think i’m missing something here , how can you have a murder trial when there is no body , it seems that republicans get tried for murder when there’s no body and loyalists don’t get tried for murder when there is a body . strange but true
    You can be convicted of murder without a body, otherwise (1) it would be very easy to avoid a murder conviction and (2) the IRA wouldn’t have left so many dead bodies lying around country roads (after they stopped ‘disappearing’ people). The test for a conviction is ‘proved beyond reasonable doubt’.

  • TheHorse

    Reader. So whats the difference between dreaming about murdering someone and thinking about murdering someone ?

  • Pete Baker

    To the whataboutery comments

    Some years back the BBC quoted Cardinal Cahal Daly as having described Whataboutery as “the commonest form of moral evasion in Ireland today”, referring to how both communities use the terrible burden of past events to lay obstacles in the way of peace.

    Indeed.

  • old school

    Cahal Daly? Moral evasion?
    What about the moral evasion of the Church abuse scandal??
    (thats a very clever joke btw based on the matter of whataboutery)

  • Henry94

    I think we’d have got it.

  • Reader

    The Horse: Reader. So whats the difference between dreaming about murdering someone and thinking about murdering someone ?
    Very little, since neither of them causes someone to be dead, and neither of them is a crime.
    I don’t see the connection with what I said, though. We aren’t in “If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?” territory here: just as Jean McConville was murdered by the IRA, long before her body was accidentally discovered, so was Nairac – even if his body is never discovered.

  • Macanna

    So 6 convicted and another being tried for one murder but 14 murdered in derry on bloody sunday and how many tried or convicted? Oh yes I’m sure that will be different somehow, silly me.

  • Macanna

    Yea and some would say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, maybe , like daly they just don’t get it.

  • foyle observer

    Robert Nairac was a murdering scumbag who served a dual role as an SAS man and a UVF man on the side, who has been implicated by his own colleagues in the British Army for not only colluding with his loyalist pals in carrying out the Dublin / Monaghan bombings but also for being present at the Miami Showband massacre.

    As Argosjohn says, give Crilly a medal. He got rid of a vile piece of the Brit machine who had no right to be in Ireland in the first place.

  • TheHorse

    I think we have reader because there have been plenty of young men and women charged here and sentenced to long periods in prison with conspiracy to cause murder and the only evidence being offered to the courts is a disputed confession. – So they were charged and sentenced with thinking about murdering someone. Here we have a case where someone is charged for his part in a murder 30 years ago with no body and the only evidence is that he alledgedly admitted his part to journalists. Where do we separate reality from fantasy. So does the prosecution have to prove guilt or the defence have to prove innocence, unfortunetly in British courts its up to the defendant to prove innocence.

  • Battle of the Bogside

    If it is good enough for republicans to be pursued, surely after the Saville report the terrorists who murdered 14 people on Bloody Sunday will also be prosecuted. Derek Wilford will be stripped of his award and also sent to rot in jail???

  • Reader

    TheHorse: So they were charged and sentenced with thinking about murdering someone.
    Not true. Conspiracy is “In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.”
    As of yet, there are no thought crimes.

  • TheHorse

    What about conspiracy to murder persons unknown at an unknown time at an unknown location, with persons unknown, – I know someone who got over 20 years for it.

  • Oh I think Daly ‘got it’ he, like all the others, just did nothing about it. No RCC bishop is free of blame for what happened to so many of our children.

  • TheHorse

    Yeah Pippakin everybody in the whole world was blind.

  • The Horse

    I am not interested in the rest of the world. I am only interested in this country, its children and the people who first abused and then betrayed them.

    If you find that hard to take, get used to it, its a growing trend.

  • TheHorse

    I care about all the children in the world, where I come from people like you only believed the church. all theory and no practice and all that, for those at the coalface well Cheerio another oppresser, who’s next

  • The Horse

    People like me believed in the Church? No, no. Definitely not me. For the rest: yes I care about all children, but I put ours first.

  • Mr E Mann

    you are obfuscating. The argument here is that a) Nairac was an SAS man and b) he was involved in collusion, including allegedly organizing sectarian murders, and therefore he was at minimum a combatant in a war and at worst a war criminal. That made him a legitimate target. Reasonable people might disagree with this argument, but it’s only whatabouttery if you’re a pacifist.

  • asgard

    think we went of track a bit with this thread ,dont see what the church abuse scandal has to do with the nairac case , anyway priests dont become peadophiles , peadophiles become priests , just thought id add this seeing as everyone else has went off on a tangent .