Bill of Rights consultation extended to 31st March

Northern Ireland Secretary of State, Shaun Woodward, has announced the extension of the public consultation on government proposals for a Bill of Rights for Northern Ireland by four weeks until 31st March 2010.

Shaun Woodward MP said: “The Government believes that a Bill of Rights which has the support of the people of Northern Ireland could play an important role in underpinning the peace, prosperity and political progress of Northern Ireland, and we are committed to taking this work forward. The launch of the consultation marked another milestone on that path. Since then, I have received a number of requests to extend the consultation deadline by organisations that are keen to participate.”

Well, we know what one of those organisations thinks of those proposals…

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  • Framer

    Hello. Anyone there?

  • Alan

    Well, that is a crumb of comfort to the NIHRC who rightly criticised the NIO on their consultation arrangements.

    The NIHRC’s proposals are fair game for comment, but the NIO’s paper is also fair game. The NIO response is at best a shoddy, failure to engage with the very idea of a Bill of Rights. It also demonstrates a preference for amendable legislation over rights and protections, which is counter intuitive and facile.

    We deserve better than this!

  • Framer

    The NIO got wind of a CAJ-inspired Atlantic-funded judicial review so gave another pointless month for consultation by which time Shaun Woodward will be tidying his papers and departing.

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    Hello. Anyone there?[/i] …. Posted by Framer on Feb 24, 2010 @ 03:00 PM[/quote]

    Hello and Hi. Anyone from Loughside and Palace Barracks here, yet? Black Watch Men …. and SurReal Bright Knights.

    It is an Interesting IntelAIgent Game we Play, Framer. Bravo!

  • KieranJ

    Another futile grasp at unreality by folks who know the so called government of the six counties is finished and needs to be buried once and for all time.

    Peace will come to the six counties only when they are reunited with the Republic.

  • joeCanuck

    Peace will come to the six counties only when they are reunited with the Republic.

    And those of us who want peace now face being murdered by you and your pals, KieranJ?

  • GFASupporterButRealist

    Something fishy here. Is the oily Woodward sucking up to the “human rights” industry pro tem ? There has been a long period already in which people could comment. More likely (?) is this because of pressure from NIHRC and its Amen Chorus for a maximalist all-but-the-kitchen-sink B of R ? And, is the extension to make sure that this unrepresentative lobby maximises the number of paper-coupon responses (all FOR a B of R, of course) funded with hundreds of thousands of pounds from the US Atlantic Philanthropies led by ex-CAJ head Martin O’Brien ? The small NI political space has been flooded by friend-of-SF Chuck Feeney’s millions of dollars to pursue politics-by-other-means for CAJ-et-al’s politically correct anti-state agenda. Talk about blatant and unbalanced interference in the political milieu by a megabuck outfit. Atlantic Philanthropies doesn’t have to abide by the strict and minimalist funding rules which apply stringently to political parties during elections. It is time this loophole was closed because it is distorting the democratic process here and allowing a big-bucks funder with an agenda to unfairly influence public policy by buying advertising, funding direct mail campaigns etc which others cannot do.

  • KieranJ

    I do not advocate murder nor do I condone needless violence.

    As an Irish American, I quote a particular hero of mine and the man I consider the founder of modern Ireland, Eamon de Valera, when asked about an assassination in London in 1921 :

    “I do not know who they were who shot Sir Henry Wilson or why they shot him. I know that life has been made a hell for the Nationalist minority in Belfast and its neighborhood for the past couple of years. … I do not approve, but I must not
    pretend to misunderstand.”

  • joeCanuck

    De Valera, founder of modern Ireland. Don’t make me laugh. An egoist who wouldn’t accept the will of the Dáil and started a civil war which resulted in the deaths of some of Ireland’s finest, putting brothers and former colleagues and friends at each other’s throats. Then assured the impossibility of a reunification of the two parts of the country by giving his Bishop and Cardinal pals a veto over the rights of the people, Rome rule.
    Spit. He should have been shot for treason after the civil war.

  • KieranJ

    I guess that’s why the Irish people voted him into office continuously for over fifty years and made him the longest serving head of state in history.

  • GFASupporterButRealist

    KieranJ: you say you are an Irish-American ? Do you accept the democratically expressed wish of the populations of the island of Ireland, North and South, in the 1998 Good Friday Agreement referendum, which endorsed the principle of CONSENT of the people in Northern Ireland to any constitutional change i.e. that Irish “unity,” so-called, can only come about with a majority of the citizens in Northern Ireland agreeing this in a referendum ? And therefore remaining within the UK if a majority continue to wish that ? I have heard some Irish Americans say that they do not accept that the will of the people of Northern Ireland on this matter is imperative. You are in the USA, not Ireland, North or South, and it is the people who live in those jurisdictions who have the right to decide on political change, not, with respect, exiles in the USA or elsewhere. People on the island of Ireland, likewise, have no right to dictate matters in your country of residence. Are you a democrat ? i.e. do you accept the terms of the Good Friday Agreement on the question of NI within the UK as long as a majority of its electors choose this ? Over to you.
    PS: there was NO moral justification for the murders of anyone after the 1921 settlement, and not much if any before that. The majority of the people of the Republic supported the 1921 settlement.It was De Valera who used force to thwart the democratically expressed wish of the people then. He came to power much later, accepting de facto the settlement, despite all the blarney and he was brutal in suppressing the IRA hardliners who still undemocratically fought against the settlement.

  • Spotty Muldoon

    I got the bill of rights questionnaire thing in the post recently. My first thought? Which shower of bastards wants this, and which other shower doesn’t. It struck me as one of those tricks kids play where you end up getting punched in the nose or poked in the eye.

  • Halfer

    “And those of us who want peace now face being murdered by you and your pals, KieranJ?”

    Well thats just a puerile response Joe. I like Kieran believe that the current set-up in Stormont is a shame government. I believe that the Norths reintegration into the 26 holds more democratic potential. This certainly doesn’t mean I want anyone killed or support actions like the Newry bomb attack.

  • joeCanuck

    I don’t understand what you mean by puerile, Halfer. These so called dissidents have already murdered and it was pure happenstance that the Newry explosion didn’t kill. They have tried other bombings too. More people are going to be murdered if they are not stopped.

  • Halfer

    Whats puerile is that you instantly equate support for armed actions (such as the Newry bomb) with those who disagree with the current Stormont arrangement.

  • joeCanuck

    Not at all, Halfer. I know the difference. KieranJ has made his position clear on quite a number of occasions. He supports the “dissidents”.

  • Halfer

    I may stand corrected then joe

  • The Bill of Rights forum was just to make the NIHRC look like it was doing something meaningful; I have compiled a collection of letters, emails, Data Protection requests and an FoI request to reveal the real face of the NIHRC, see: http://www.christywalsh.com/html/nihrc_fraud.html