“I now go forward with the full backing of my local members.”

According to a BBC report, the independently minded MP for North Down, Lady Sylvia Hermon, secured the “unanimous support” of her local Ulster Unionist Association at that “key constituency meeting” yesterday. From the BBC report.

On 28 January, Lady Hermon met with the North Down UUP Association at it’s AGM, she said it was a very “good-natured meeting”. “After such a turbulent time since making known my strong opposition to the Tory link, I was greatly encouraged and deeply appreciative of the unanimous support given to me as the MP,” she said. “In any further discussions with party officers about the forthcoming General Election, I now go forward with the full backing of my local members. All in all, I really couldn’t have wished for a better outcome from the meeting.”

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  • Go on ye girl ye.

  • Bob Wilson

    Having attacked her party’s candidate during the Euro election and shown her contempt for her party by saying walking her dog was more important than attending their conference Hermon is now spinnning
    The Association motion said she has been a good MP – it said nothing about ‘going forward’

    Remind me what has she achieved politically?

  • Bob Wilson

    BTW will any journalists reading try asking her and the DUP if they have had secret talks?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Three cheers for Syvia who actually likes SF more than the DUP.
    I recall an interview where she said SF always enquired as to the health of Jack Hermon but the DUP didnt.
    I daresay Reg will have to support her nomination…..unless of course she becomes a Catholic between now and 6th May.

  • LabourNIman

    Well thats that I guess. Tories have no choice but to contest the seat.

  • Kevsterino

    Bob, you asked to be reminded.

    She was elected to Parliament as an Ulster Unionist in the last election. It may not be much, but that is more than Sir Reg can say.

  • Pete Baker

    Not so quick, LabourNIman.

    The report doesn’t say the local Association backed her as a candidate.

    They may have stopped short of that. After all, the UUP’s position is that all nominees must be prepared to take the Conservative party whip.

    So far the UUP haven’t selected their nominee for North Down and neither have the Conservatives.

    And both nominees have then to go forward to the joint committee for final selection.

    This is just another case of someone indulging in a game of political chicken – albeit with their own party leadership.

  • Harry J

    Remind me what has she achieved politically?
    Posted by Bob Wilson on Jan 29, 2010 @ 10:40 PM……..

    remind me, what has the tories acheived politically since 1997?

  • West Sider

    Pete,

    I’m marking that as a fail, in journalism school at least.

    Lady Sylvia Hermon, secured the “unanimous support”

    Surely your post should have read: she claimed ‘unanimous support’ given that we’re relying here on what she said.

    Not too good on detail, are you?

    Never mind, get on the Get Adams bandwagon before anyone notices.

  • Mark McGregor

    Am I the only one that can’t recall this ‘making known my strong opposition to the Tory link’?

    I do read newspapers and stuff but this is the first I’ve heard of it.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    I have no idea if you are the ONLY one…but certainly I can recall a TV interview where Sylvia said this from her constituency office in Bangor.

  • Pete Baker

    West Sider

    “Not too good on detail, are you?”

    Clearly…

  • Mark McGregor

    Yeah, Pete. Next time alter direct quotes to keep the shinner happy. *ffs*

  • Brian Walker

    Sylvia Hermon set a standard of personal integrity. She was one of few NI MPs who took an informed interest in the wider aspects of justice and security, as well as deploying her own expertise on NI security, civil liberty and police issues, for which she was much respected in the House. She ws always a tickler for detail and a keen analyst of the blizzard of new legislation for NI down the years, was often consulted by government on a wide range of issues as a notably non-sectarian unionist. And – quite obviously – she’s a great constituency MP. And how do others compare precisely? The Stormont leadership made the great mistake of underestimating her for years. Bad mistake.

  • Greenflag

    ‘So far the UUP haven’t selected their nominee for North Down and neither have the Conservatives.’

    They’re obviously waiting till the last possible moment to be sure to be sure which way the wind doth blow 😉

  • West Sider

    Don’t get your rejoinder, Pete.

    I’ll say again, you ain’t a proper journalist or commentator, too blinded by your own prejudices.

    But that’s all right. You’re just emulating the hack pack on Norn Iron, but they’ll never let you in.

    And inserting inverted commas over everything is not going to get you to the party.

    You need to spell it out, and on that, another fail.

    Bubba.

  • Pete Baker

    Mark

    Try Mick’s noting of her comments.

    And a subsequent post on the reaction by the UUP and NI Conservatives.

  • West Sider

    Yeah, Pete. Next time alter direct quotes to keep the shinner happy. *ffs*

    I think I’ve made it clear that I don’t think inserting inverted commas is a substitute for proper , clear, explicit journalism.

    Not a good thing at all to hide in the hinterland and invite conjecture based on ambiguous quotations.

  • Greenflag

    Well she sounds confident enough but then can anybody trust the UUP/UCUNF/Conservatives after this week’s debacle ?

    It appears they can’t fully trust each other either.

    Lady Sylvia will be returning to Westminster methinks . I’m not used to wishing ‘unionists’ good luck but in this case I’ll make an exception 😉

  • West Sider

    ADDS: Unlike you Mark, I’m not a Shinner, never have been, never will be.

    Sorry if I have to repeat it, but you don’t seem to get it.

  • Mark McGregor

    Pete,

    Sorry my sarcasm may have clad the fact I agree with your coverage on this 100%.

  • Pete Baker

    Mark

    Here’s a BBC report with some relevant direct quotes from Lady Sylvia in May 2009.

    “At the present time, I can’t see myself standing under a Conservative banner,” she said.

    “If my party chooses to move to call themselves by a different name, I’m terribly sorry and terribly disappointed by that, but I remain an Ulster Unionist,” she said.

    “That was certainly my mandate and I’ve loved serving the people of North Down.”

  • Pete Baker

    Sorry Mark.

    I’ve been responding, erroneously apparently, to your comment 10.

  • Pete Baker

    West Sider

    “you ain’t a proper journalist or commentator”

    You know, I’m sitting here in my pajamas thinking “You’re so right!”

  • tacapall

    Slap Slap, dont do that again “pete”

  • iluvni

    Did she take a week off from doing her job in the House of Commons this week, like the rest of the Unionist MPs?

  • The Raven

    Bob Wilson writes: “Remind me what has she achieved politically?”

    Are we also going to do comparatives with just about any politician from these shores…? I think some important legislation about taxi plates was done….a few…errrr…years ago….

  • Harry J

    sorry ILuvni, you need to keep up with events, did you bother checking to see which MPs went to westminster this week?

    Didnt think so…do try harder

  • Pete83

    remind me, what has the tories acheived politically since 1997?

    Posted by Harry J on Jan 29, 2010 @ 11:13 PM

    Well as the vast majority of commentators expect a Tory Govt of the UK come May.. clearly they have achieved quite a lot politically! No?

  • Jimmy_Sands

    She also enjoys the unanimous support of the parliamentary party.

  • I cant see what the likely outcome is here.

    Will UCUNF nominate their candidate and the North Down UUP Association will then be excommunicated, or will UCUNF nominate her and she will then excommunicate herself?

  • MU

    “The report doesn’t say the local Association backed her as a candidate”

  • Frustrated Democrat

    How many people turned up for this ‘meeting’?

  • oneill,

    fine, but what is the answer to my question?

    Frustrated Democrat,

    how can Patterson stand over his remarks that the meeting between the UUP and DUP, organised by the Oranage Order, had no impact on the UCUNF project when 2 of the highest profile candidates gave that as a contributory reason for withdrawing their nominations for Westminster seats?

  • iluvni
  • Framer
  • Frustrated Democrat

    I dont’t think he said it had no impact; a read through this site make it obvious it has had. It is the size of the impact that matters and what happens over the next few weeks.

    I think one of the impacts is this quote, on another thread, from The Conservatives NI Chairman – ‘Furthermore we will not remain in alliance with any Party that attempts to enter an electoral deal with any other Party for an Assembly or a Westminster Election’.

    Do you think a line has been drawn in the sand by the Conservatives over Unionist pacts?

  • Moderate Unionist

    fine, but what is the answer to my question?

    Your question is only a pertinent one surely *if* the North Down constituency association put her forward as their candidate towards the selection committee?
    They haven’t, so the more relevant question then is whether she will stand as an independent, which is a question for her obviously rather than the Conservatives and Unionists.

    how can Patterson stand over his remarks that the meeting between the UUP and DUP, organised by the Oranage Order, had no impact on the UCUNF project when 2 of the highest profile candidates gave that as a contributory reason for withdrawing their nominations for Westminster seats?

    On a point of pedantry, that meeting wasn’t the contributory reason they gave (their BBC interview was prior to Friday)- it was the one that a high ranking member of their own party had with the DUP.

  • oneill,

    thanks for that clarification regarding Patterson, some people seem to think that he may take a hit over the issue, but surely Cameron gave his approval as he is unlikely not to explore any possibe seats that might be available.

    It is difficult to see how the UCUNF project has any credibility remaining after these resignations and if it is a battle between the Orange Order and the Tories for the soul of the UUP then surely the Orange Order will surely win.

  • “It is difficult to see how the UCUNF project has any credibility remaining after these resignations and if it is a battle between the Orange Order and the Tories for the soul of the UUP then surely the Orange Order will surely win”

    And is that a good or bad thing in our opinion?

  • …or even “in your opinion”

  • oneill,

    Not a great choice, but better the Tories than the DUP if the UUP settle outside of the middle ground by aligning themselves with the DUP.

  • Lady Sylvia Hermon has reiterated her opposition to the Tory link while also making it clear that she intends to contest what would on the mainland be her very safe Tory seat. The UUP will be requiring all its MPs in the next Parliament to take the Tory Whip, so it seems perfectly clear what it, now subsumed into mainland Toryism, has to do.

    But what does that make Lady Hermon (actually the correct form in her case)? The New Labour candidate? Is North Down, with a Nationalist vote of barely four per cent, now a fight between a Tory, a New Labourite, and an Alliance Party Lib Dem? Is the DUP going to stand aside and allow that to happen?

  • Framer

    UUP torn between two lovers – leftist Sylvia et al not to mention the NI Conservatives, and its unionist unity minded wing.

    Luckily all its ‘liberal’ Protestant and sectarian nationalist haters ensure the members can only push the party in one direction.

  • Scaramoosh

    Hermon is loved by the Alliance. If it comes to a fight and she decides to fight as an independent, they will fall in behind her; pure and simple.