Any other ‘slips of the mind’ to declare?

On Tuesday the Irish News reported that “Prosecutors have asked police to pass on demands that Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams and his niece stop talking to the media about the alleged abuse carried out by his brother.” The, not unreasonable, request was made by Liam Adams’ legal team. In his latest post on This Blog Gerry Adams goes over his version of events again. Including another declaration of ignorance about Liam Adams’ involvement in Louth Sinn Féin.

“While I was aware that [Liam] was in Dundalk – as I have said publicly I met him there –I was not aware of his membership of the party until I learned that his name was being mentioned as a possible candidate. When I heard this I contacted him directly. His name did not go forward and as a result of my efforts he later left the party.”

That’s not quite the same version of events as Gerry Adams had first suggested – “when I learnt that he was a member of Sinn Féin it was I who moved to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin”.And, after reports that Liam Adams had been nominated for selection as a Sinn Féin candidate for Louth in the 1997 general election, the version became

Mr Adams denied that Liam was nominated as a potential Sinn Féin candidate in the Dundalk area after the Sinn Féin leader broke ties with his brother. He said that as soon as he heard of the possibility his brother might be nominated, he moved to ensure that such a thing could not happen.

“I moved immediately both to stop that and to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin without telling people why. But I moved very, very quickly. He wasn’t a contender, there was no nomination for Liam Adams in the Dundalk area. There was no convention in which his name was put forward, there was no contest in which he was part of.”

The one consistent feature of Gerry Adams’ version of events is a lack of clarity on actual dates.

But we can place the Sinn Féin selection convention for Louth in October 1996 – which was advertised with Owen Hanratty and Liam Adams as the nominees.

From the Sunday Tribune, there are eye-witness accounts

We have also statements from three republicans who were present at the selection convention in the Imperial Hotel, which Sinn Féin still denies took place. It was chaired by Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin and minutes were taken, the sources said. Liam Adams was supported by Belfast republicans living in Dundalk who were moderates and pro-leadership.

And we have this statement from a Sinn Féin spokesman reported in the Irish News, and noted here

“Liam Adams did not put his name foward for selection in 1997. Sinn Féin are saying that this story is completely inaccurate. “His name was never involved in that.” He said that Liam Adams had been living abroad but returned to Ireland in the early 1990s when he began associating with republicans in the Dundalk area. “Liam Adams was a member of Sinn Féin for a short time during the 1990s,” he said. “He had lived abroad and when he returned around 1993/94 he started mixing in republican circles in Dundalk. “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.” [added emphasis]

In the latest clarification, Gerry Adams also says

“I want to make it clear that republicans in Dundalk and senior party colleagues were not aware of the allegations against Liam Adams.”

Which avoids sharing one problem.

While Sinn Féin’s Gerry Kelly has declared, of Gerry Adams, that “Now I think he’s acted in the best interests of the party..”

And what of Arthur Morgan, TD, and his recently recovered memory?

Well, in today’s Irish News report Morgan asserted, in defence of his ‘slip of the mind’

Mr Morgan continued in his insistence that Liam Adams “wasn’t a key person” in local politics during the late 1990s, a decade after the party leader was made aware of Ms Tyrell’s claims.

However, he admitted that Liam Adams had served as chairman of the party’s district executive in Louth before quitting “for personal reasons”.

“He was, of course, a member of Sinn Féin but what I completely overlooked when I made [earlier] comments was that he had been chair of the [district executive] for two months,” Mr Morgan said.

“He chaired two meetings, after which he resigned for personal reasons. I wasn’t at either of those meetings and that’s probably why it completely slipped my mind.

“Although he was chair for a very short time it was so unmemorable that I completely forgot about it.”

But we do have a date for Liam Adams being chairman of the “district executive”. Because, when he was photographed with Martin McGuinness opening the new Dundalk Sinn Féin office in June 1996, Liam Adams is described in Dundalk’s The Argus at the time [7th June 1996] as “Chairman of Louth Comhairle Ceantair”.

Five months after that photograph appeared, as reported by Suzanne Breen

Yet on 5 October 1996 – eight months before the canvass – the Dundalk Democrat reported that a selection convention would be held later that month in the Imperial Hotel. It named Owenie Hanratty and Liam Adams as those seeking the nomination.

In June 1997, Gerry Adams is posing for photographs for the local paper along with his brother Liam canvassing in Dundalk.

Furthermore

The Dundalk Democrat of 15 November 1997 – five months after the infamous canvass – states that Sinn Féin member Liam Adams played a prominent role in the Edentubber 40th anniversary commemoration, just outside Dundalk, to honour five IRA members killed in the border campaign.

“Proceedings were chaired by Liam Adams of Sinn Féin in Co Louth. The main address was given by Sinn Féin national chairman, Mitchel McLaughlin,” the Dundalk Democrat states, The commemoration had taken place six days earlier.

Arthur Morgan knows the significance of that last point, because it’s the role he played at the 50th anniversary commemoration at Edentubber in 2007 – when he introduced the main speaker, Gerry Adams.

Also from today’s Irish News report

Mr Morgan expressed concern that Liam Adams had worked “for a short period of time” on a community youth project in Dundalk in conjunction with the health service.

That’s probably a reference to when Liam Adams helped produce the drugs leaflet which was advertised in An Phoblacht in 1997 [scroll down].

Before he started working with youth groups in west Belfast.

The questions remain.

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  • Paul

    I think in the days and next few weeks the net will close in on Gerry Adams who should of gone weeks ago.The momentum is building which should of being building weeks ago now we can get down to the business off removing this man from public life.

  • BelfastYid

    Can’t see Adams having to go over this. No one apart from anti SF crowd seems to give a shit. Not being talked about on the street.

  • Dixie Elliott

    It seems Arthur has been left with his finger in the dyke.

  • Paul

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    Can’t see Adams having to go over this. No one apart from anti SF crowd seems to give a shit. Not being talked about on the street.
    Posted by BelfastYid on Jan 14, 2010 @ 07:20 PM

    You speak for yourself sonny it will be talked about and is being talked about such is the seriousness of this scandal.The case being a child abuse scandal its the sinners who don’t want to talk about it.Well tough

  • Dixie Elliott

    ‘Everybody’s a dissident’ is an excuse that has worn rather thin don’t you think BelfastYid?

  • joeCanuck

    First rule for liars: Better have a real good memory.

  • Dixie Elliott

    Arthur Morgan knows the significance of that last point, because it’s the role he played at the 50th anniversary commemoration at Edentubber – where he introduced the main speaker, Gerry Adams.

    Pete Baker

    Er, Pete the main speaker was actually Mitchel McLaughlin.

  • Pete Baker

    Dixie

    Mitchel McLauglin was at the 40th anniversary, in 1997, chaired by Liam Adams.

    Gerry Adams was at the 50th anniversary, in 2007, chaired by Arthur Morgan.

  • John O’Connell

    I moved immediately both to stop that and to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin without telling people why. But I moved very, very quickly.

    It seems that he wasn’t so quick to move to protect other people’s children from his alleged paedophile brother.

    Protect Sinn Fein and me – yes
    Protect children – no.

    The priorities of a propagandist, not a conscience.

  • BelfastYid

    Just calling it as I see it. Only people I hear talking about it are anti SF anyway. Most SF voters I have met don’t seem interested.

  • Mr Crowley

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sf-office-worker-in-child-porn-probe-477927.html

    Interesting story here about a 50-year-old Northern man who went missing in 2004 around the time that a computer from the Sinn Fein offices in Waterford was used to download paedophile images. The final two paragraphs are most interesting:

    “The case is a further likely cause of embarrassment for Sinn Fein, as the party’s Ard Fheis in Dublin this weekend is being asked to back a motion calling for the gardai to publish the names of sex offenders and paedophiles.

    The motion comes up today, with Dublin members advocating that the names of suspected paedophiles be made public.”

    You can bet that the motion didn’t carry. According to shinners the man was “not known as a prominent figure in the party.” I don’t recall hearing of any arrests in regard to this case and one could be mistaken for thinking that there is something familiar about the suspect.

  • percy

    “Thar she blows” — how far off?

  • Dixie Elliott

    Interesting find Mr Crowley.

  • Interesting to see that GA can expel anyone from SF without giving a reason. Is that consistent with SF rules and regs?

  • joeCanuck

    Hehehehe, Mark.
    Must be the way you tell them.
    Twice in as many days I’ve been indebted to Frank Carson.

  • jack

    Paul & Dixie are correct , SF membership are making a big mistake if they think this will go away .Lets see if Belfastyid holds this opinion next week….perhaps it was yid who advised him to say he was never in the RA .

  • jack

    Ok then, Lets put deputy O Caolain’s memory to the test and see how it goes .Did he chair the selection convention in the Imperial Hotel ? and if so who was there .

  • heamaisbharney

    “Ok then, Lets put deputy O Caolain’s memory to the test and see how it goes .Did he chair the selection convention in the Imperial Hotel ? and if so who was there.” jack

    The problem for S.F with that is that O’Caolain is probably one of their most honest people and might not be prepared to lie for Gerry.

  • crazy fenian 32

    belfastyid i do,nt agree with your suggestion that no one in west belfast thinks this is a big deal. As a pro sinn fein republican i think he made a major boo boo and i know for certain the people in west belfast wo,nt let this pass.

  • crazy fenian 32

    As for liam adams if gerry wants to make amends he should go to the 26 an trail him back to face justice. never mind euro warrants if gerry talked to him he would come home pronto.

  • Pete Baker

    Mark

    “Interesting to see that GA can expel anyone from SF without giving a reason.”

    That’s if Gerry did ‘expel’ Liam from the party.

    I know that the earlier versions have Liam “dumped out of Sinn Féin” by Gerry.

    And the Sinn Féin spokeman said that

    “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.”

    But. 1999? When the selection convention was held in 1996? Is that moving “immediately”, or even “very, very quickly”?

    Gerry Adams’ latest version of events is that

    “as a result of [Gerry’s] efforts [Liam] later left the party.”

    Which is not, necessarily, the same thing as being “dumped out”.

    Not that any evidence has been produced to support the notion that he left under duress.

    But then again, some 18 months after we have evidence of Liam Adams being chairman of the Louth Sinn Féin district executive, he’s chairing the 40th anniversary at Edentubber.

    Despite Arthur Morgan’s recently recovered memory.

  • jack

    # I would agree with you re O’Caolin,lets see how truthful he is and how good his memory is.

  • All the above and in particular Mr Crowley (11) highlights the need for further and aggressive investigation and questioning.

    It is not over because Mr Morgan tries to cover his original mistake with another.

    Sinn Fein hard liners may hold onto their faith like a moth eaten life jacket, but the independent voter will be looking very hard indeed at the outcome of all this and they will be expecting an outcome.

  • USA

    It seems to me Adams has a sufficiently defensible position on this matter.
    The allegations were reported in 1987 to both the RUC and Social services. Family members were also made aware of the issue. For whatever reason charges were not brought.
    At this point in the chronology I don’t see any major problem with the actions of Adams, indeed I think this version of events seems quite appropriate and none of the participants seem to be saying otherwise.

    Gerry Adams is quoted as saying he always believed his niece Aine, which brings into question some disputed facts about the status of the Adams brothers’ relationship in the 1990’s. But the fact that charges were never brought against his brother Liam in 1987 also also provides Gerry Adams with some cover.
    Confirmation of Gerry Adams also seeking professional advice which informed his actions regarding going public, will only strengthen his position.

    In the absence of any major new developments, I am inclined to cut Gerry Adams some slack on this issue. Politically I don’t think there is enough there to effect his position in West Belfast or as Sinn Fein president. I think it will be very hard for his political opponents to score against him on this one, and there does not seem to be many (if any) internal rumblings.

  • USA

    In fact there are gaping holes in Gerry Adams account of events, this blog and others will enlighten you on this.

    I too think this is a deeply personal matter for him and if he is telling the truth we should extend our understanding for his dilemma.

    Unfortunately for him it is not just a personal matter, questions have been raised and other allegations made and they still need to be answered.

  • USA

    Pipakin,
    Yes I have been following the Liam Adams story so I am somewhat aware of the main points as I see them. Others will obviously place greater emphasis on different talking points. While this story has certainly has not helped Adams, I think at the moment it looks like he can defend his actions, all be it with some discomfort.

  • USA

    Yes I think so far as S/F are concerned he probably will be alright. It is the independents he and others will be concerned about and rightly.

    This is not some mysterious attack on an unknown man who may or may not have been an informer or a drug dealer. This is children and many people will think twice if they sense reluctance and fudging of facts.

  • Mr Crowley

    While this story has certainly has not helped Adams, I think at the moment it looks like he can defend his actions, all be it with some discomfort.
    Posted by USA on Jan 15, 2010 @ 02:36 AM

    He can defend sheltering and enabling someone he believed to be a paedophile at a time when elements within his own party were calling for suspected paedophiles to be publicly named?
    He knew that his brother was working with children, Liam’s picture appeared on at least 2 occasions in the PSF-run BMG publications with children and PSF members. There is simply no possibility that he didn’t know that Liam was working with children and living in West Belfast up until 2006 yet none of the organisations Liam worked with, nor indeed the shinners he worked with can account for any warnings from Gerry Adams.
    How can he defend his INACTION?

  • Jimmy_Sands

    The striking thing to me is that the lying is compulsive and essentially pointless. I believe the truth is he didn’t give the matter a second thought between 1987 and the recent press interest and his lack of concern probably had no effect on his niece one way or the other. If he just admitted as much and left it at that the attention would probably be on Fr. Troy’s behaviour, but he can’t help himself. He just has to lie. Badly.

  • USA

    It’s possible Gerry Adams will shut up shop as he now has cover from the request by Liam Adams’ lawyer that he and Aine make no more statements to the press.
    A court case will ensure that the story does not go away any time soon. But IMHO, at the moment there is just not enough of an opening for Adams’ political foes to land a knock out blow. Additionally there is no sign of internal discontent. I think he will be able to keep the matter at arms length at least through the court case. A court case which seems pretty far away as the arrest warrant has not even been drawn up yet. What is that all about?

  • Mr Crowley

    A court case which seems pretty far away as the arrest warrant has not even been drawn up yet. What is that all about?
    Posted by USA on Jan 15, 2010 @ 03:12 AM

    Protection of state assets, same as it ever was.

  • USA

    Mr Crowley,
    none of the organisations Liam worked with, nor indeed the shinners he worked with can account for any warnings from Gerry Adams.

    You are correct, none of the organizations in Belfast seemed to be aware of the allegations against Liam Adams. They said as much in press statements. I interpret the press statements as the youth groups questioning why the social services did not provide information and that the police checks did not turn up any red flags.
    I saw it as a reaction to the charge that the RUC tried to turn the women into informers, thereby doing a disservice the the child, her mother and wider society by missing the opportunity to take a suspected pedophile off the streets.

    You are also correct that the Shinners seemed unaware of the allegations against Liam Adams. As Aine was a minor it was up to her and/or her guardian to go public.
    Plenty of blame to go around, but you seem blind to the failures of the mandated authorities. This leaves you open to charges that you are not interested in the child but only in using the events to attack Gerry Adams for narrow political gain.

  • USA

    No it appears to be you attempting yet again to blame the Brits.

    The law on reporting child abuse was different, as a browse through these posts will show you. It was indeed up to aine and her mother to take the matter further with the police, they did not. Aine and her mother say it was because they thought the police would try to use them as informers, maybe, but the fact is, if they had gone public, they would have been of no further use to the Brits. Gerry Adams may have been embarrassed but there would have been sympathy too.

    As far as Gerry Adams is concerned, as far as I know, the rumours are not of him abusing children, but of trying to protect his family. It appears that in his efforts to do so, he has covered up the abuse committed by his brother and father.

    Other very serious rumours suggest that IRA, Sinn Fein, or other republican groups were involved in helping some child abusers escape the law.

    I hope, when the child abuse investigations are done, journalists and others will look at these issues, along with any collusion with the Brits.

  • Mr Crowley

    USA, Liam Adams worked in Clonard Monastery where Gerry was on close terms with the clerics and spent a lot of time. Do you think he didn’t know that his brother was there?
    The perspicacity of your sycophantic defence of Gerry Adams is sickening ro behold.

  • Mick Fealty

    Belfast Yid,

    “Can’t see Adams having to go over this. No one apart from anti SF crowd seems to give a shit. Not being talked about on the street.”

    There is nothing yet in the public domain that’s fit to make him go. Nor for him to worry about the loss of his Westminster seat.

    But we still have a long way before we to get to the bottom of this story. I’m not presuming where it goes, but given the nature of the unanswered questions building up, Adams current lack of candour is unsustainable.

    The party can lie about the leader’s military past, but trying to cover his brother’s past within the party looks very dodgy to pro and anti SF people alike…

    We’ve seen a few political collapses happening in the seven/eight years of Slugger. First the UUP in May 05, and latterly the apparently invulnerable DUP being humiliated in the Euros last year.

    What both had in common is that neither incumbent detected the collapse coming. The difference is that there is an energetic opposition within unionism.

    But Sinn Fein may not always be able to count on the moral support of a Humeite SDLP come what may.

  • Mr Crowley

    Whilst I agree with the gist of your argument I can understand that respect and faith in a man may be hard for some to let go.

    The instinct to protect those we believe in is very strong.

    USA

    You need to understand that it can never be as strong as the instinct to protect children.

  • Pete Baker

    USA

    You claim Gerry Adams can defend his actions.

    As yourself this question – What actions?

    He has claimed that he intervened to stop his brother’s name going forward at the Sinn Féin selection convention and to have him “dumped out” of the party.

    That convention was held in October 1996 [some 4 or 5 months after Liam Adams is recorded as being chairman of the district executive, Arthur].

    Yet in June 1997 Gerry and Liam Adams are posing together for election publicity shots in Dundalk.

    And in November 1997 Liam Adams is chairing the 40th anniversary commemoration at Edentubber.

    Gerry Adams has also claimed to have intervened against his brother’s employment in west Belfast.

    There is no record of that.

    In fact, what we have is Liam Adams’ record of employment as a youth worker in west Belfast between 1998 and 2006.

    At the start of 2007 Aine Tyrell reactivated the case against her father.

  • Mr Crowley

    The instinct to protect those we believe in is very strong.
    Posted by pippakin on Jan 15, 2010 @ 11:23 AM

    It would appear that GA believes only in protecting himself and will go to any lengths to do so, regardless of the cost to the innocent. This is a recurring feature throughout his career that has been brought fully into perspective by the LA revelations.

  • USA

    Pippakin,
    You make a good point that if Aine and her mother had gone public then they would have been of no further use to the Special Branch etc.
    However going public on a matter of child abuse is not something a mother and child should have to endure. They went to the police and social services, surely that should have been sufficient.
    Yes, you are correct Adams would have been embarrassed, but equally you seem to remain blind to the fact that the mandated services were found wanting.

    As far as Gerry Adams is concerned, as far as I know, the rumours are not of him abusing children, but of trying to protect his family. It appears that in his efforts to do so, he has covered up the abuse committed by his brother and father.

    Again, driven by an seemingly anti-Adams agenda you are blind to some simple facts.
    Firstly, Adams has a lot of political opponents and rumours are just that, rumours. Secondly, to say he has covered up the abuse committed by his brother and father is, in my view, incorrect. Adams family members accompanied Aine and here mother to the social services, Adams seems to have supported this course of action. Aine and her mother have not disputed this. The allegations were also reported to the RUC. I’m sorry, but these do not seem to be the actions of a person trying to cover anything up.

    Other very serious rumours suggest that IRA, Sinn Fein, or other republican groups were involved in helping some child abusers escape the law.
    “IRA, Sinn Fein, other republican groups, some child abusers?”
    Get real dude, would you like a bigger brush so you can tar everyone in one pass. You seem to be getting so excited you have stopped making sense.
    Again, rumours are just rumours, take a chill pill. You still seem fixated on the Adams / Sinn Fein bashing angle which leaves you open to charges that you are using a case of suspected child abuse to score cheap political points.

  • Christopher Devenney

    To start with you shouldn’t always believe what you read in the papers. Secondly no one is really talking about this as the scandal around the Robinson Family is still most talked about.

    Other allegations have been made and we are still awaiting matters so who knows what will happen. We’ll just have to sit tight and wait to see what happens.

  • USA

    Mr. Crowley,
    Liam Adams worked in Clonard Monastery where Gerry was on close terms with the clerics and spent a lot of time. Do you think he didn’t know that his brother was there?

    As I mentioned earlier, his claims that he believed Aine from the beginning bring into question some of his later actions. A charge i’m sure he is aware of. I would think he had to know his brother was back in Belfast and working in Clonard.

  • USA

    Mick,
    There is nothing yet in the public domain that’s fit to make him go. Nor for him to worry about the loss of his Westminster seat.

    I agree.

    but given the nature of the unanswered questions building up, Adams current lack of candour is unsustainable.

    Maybe i’m missing something in the story but without more revelations I think his current position will prove too difficult to undo. I think he could very well shut up shop as requested by LA’s lawyers. That gives him the legal cover to say no more on the matter, thereby making his “lack of candour” quite sustainable at least until after the court case, when ever that may be.

  • USA

    Peter Baker,
    Yes I am aware that some questions do remain, Adams may take a few punches but I don’t think they will prove to be knock out blows.

    In fact, what we have is Liam Adams’ record of employment as a youth worker in west Belfast between 1998 and 2006.

    Yes, I would also have preferred if the police had done their job and investigated back in 1987, instead of letting a potential child molester roam free. It seems this is not the only case to arise from the “troubles”. I think a lot of people in West Belfast would have a similar view, it is an indictment of the type of ‘policing’ those people experienced. The social services also did not seem to follow up or provide support for the mother and child.

    At the start of 2007 Aine Tyrell reactivated the case against her father.

    And quite rightly so. I hope the truth can be established in a court of law.

  • USA

    Oh do, lets blame the Brits, out of hand with no understanding of the law at the time, lets just do what comes so naturally to the few. It will spare the republicans any need to explain any protection they gave to child abusers, just blame the Brits.

    Now the Brits have something called a CRB report which people applying to work with children have to fill in, they did not have to do so when these claims were made to the RUC. No charges were bought and so the case went cold.

    It may be that there was collusion, it is one of the many questions we await more information on. All of the questions are serious and the answers are essential. To try to sidetrack this matter by blaming the Brits without further information, is to deny the need for full investigation, and to risk losing sight of the main victim/victims: children.

    I urge you to read all these posts and others to give you a clear idea of the case here.

  • USA

    Pippakin,
    I’m not “blaming the Brits”. I have consistently said there is plenty of blame to go around. To the long list I would also today add the Garda Siochona (sp?) as they may not have acted effectively over some allegations surrounding a pedophile ring in Dundalk.

    Pippkin, to excuse RUC mistakes you claim the laws were different in 1987, No charges were bought and so the case went cold.. The case went cold because the cops patently failed in their public duty. As did the social services. Had the cops acted appropriately at the time a suspected pedophile could have been brought to trial. If a conviction ensued then Liam Adams would never have been employed years later by unsuspecting youth groups in nationalist areas.

    Plenty of blame to go around. But you choose to bash Adams and then throw mud in my direction when I voice an opinion.

    I choose to mention the mandated services that were and are supposed to protect children. My approach does not remove Adams from the equation. But to arrive at the correct conclusions, those which best serve society and children, we must look at all the parts of the algorithm.

  • BelfastYid

    UTV don’t seem too interested, having just watched their coverage.

  • USA

    As I said previously the laws were different when Aine Adams first went to the police.

    I am not dismissing the theory that the security services may have been involved in some form with members of Sinn Fein, or even the Adams family themselves. It changes nothing. A full investigation is needed and, at the very least, answers to the questions already out there.

    I know Im repeating myself but this is about children, and who may have harmed them or assisted others who were harming them.

    I actually believe that the Brit aspect of this is the least important because it will be the easiest to check once the other quesions are answered. Blaming the Brits in advance of answers could be of assistance to those who would very much like to shift the emphasis of the questions.

  • USA

    Pippakin,
    Lame response full of petty political point scoring.
    I am not dismissing the theory that the security services may have been involved in some form with members of Sinn Fein, or even the Adams family themselves
    Wrong. A mother and child went to the cops for help and the cops failed in their public duty. Social services probably didn’t do much better.

    You then claim:
    I actually believe that the Brit aspect of this is the least important
    Why? What gives the mandated authorites a get out of jail free card? Why not look at the problem from that angle also.
    BTW, it is you who keeps referring to the “Brits”. I have been referring to the mandated child protection agencies, so don’t try to impose your narrow political agenda onto me.

    You then say we can look at the cops and social services after all other questions have been answered.
    check once the other quesions are answered
    The questions concerning the cops and social services are legitimate because they relate to the mother and child. Why did they not get help? why were charges not brought? did police action/inaction result in a pedophile roaming free for 20 years etc?
    Your questions however seem to relate to the relationship between Gerry Adams and his brother, and meetings between the two many years later. Your focus is on Adams and Sinn Fein, not the mother and child or child protective services. I think your political approach to a social problem is unhelpful.

  • USA

    Please, please, read all the posts!

    The law was different then. It has changed greatly, for example Aine is entitled to anonymity, she had to waive that herself. She had been ‘persuaded’ to drop the case, partly as she says because of the line the RUC took, but also because of family pressure.

    RUC involvement is only unimportant at this time. In due course when questions are answered. Any part they had in this will be exposed and unlike the Adams family the security forces will not be able to hide behind evasion and illusion.

    I have no political agenda as you put it. Far from it. I am solely concerned with the child abuse case.

    As for child protection, as I continually say, the law was different then, check it out.

    AS for ‘Brits’ again, check your facts, the ‘British’ have long since adopted the abreviation as their own!