“what I told him was that sometimes they are better not doing publicity”

As Brian has pointed out, “..silence has its risks”. Although, given his crass utterances yesterday, I’m sure the Northern Ireland Secretary of State, Shaun Woodward, MP, was grateful to receive Northern Ireland Executive Junior Minister Gerry Kelly’s advice on commenting publicly on events.

Sinn Fein junior minister Gerry Kelly urged against any comments that might unsettle the negotiations and claimed he had warned Mr Woodward against commenting publicly. “I had a meeting with Shaun Woodward on Tuesday and what I told him was that sometimes they are better not doing publicity,” he said.

And as UTV’s Ken Reid informed, that advice is being followed elsewhere.

Gerry Adams gave a strange press conference where he merely confirmed the talks were continuing but said little else.

But has Sinn Féin’s Gerry Kelly been advising Arthur Morgan, TD, too? Adds We may find out tomorrow.

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  • Mr Crowley

    The whole P+J ‘debate’ is a farce. It’s a fait accompli now that the dupers have been taught a salutory lesson in the perils of biting the hand that feeds them. The Brits had Paisley by the crigs over past misdeeds, which was why he did the double act with his equally compromised partner comical Marty. Somehow I doubt that there are sufficient unblemished dupers who afford to ignore the Robinson lesson.

    Ironically the UU are gleefully increasing the pressure on the dupers even though Empey and his British policy party would have dealt with the other British policy party, PSF, months ago had they been in power. The UU is merely looking to the next election when they can use this stick to beat the corrup duper ‘Lundies’. It is ironic that Arlene Foster will be the one ultimately delivers P+J. Arlene could well find herself out on her ample derriere along with many of her party colleagues.

    The shinners will sell this as a great victory over the orange taliban and unfortunately this shameful playing of the sectarian card will find fertile minds to be illusioned. The devolution of P+J is one of the endgame factors of the Ulsterisation and normalisation strategies. The victory might be claimed by the shinners but the victory is the property of their British sponsors/handlers.

  • Alias

    It’s cute of the Shinners to fabricate the impression that media management (i.e. spinning information to the public or withholding it) is something that their puppet masters in the British state but not do but would be well advised to do, and also to fabricate the impression that the Shinners are not puppets but are pulling their own strings, warning any seeming puppet master to stay out of the indigenous Punch & Judy show.

  • Mr Crowley

    Very true Alias, you only have to look at the difference in the way that Irisgate and Liamgate have been handled in the media, particularly the establishment media…..the BBC sank the Robinsons after all, no word of any interest in the lying Gerry issue though.

  • tacapall

    The shinners will sell this as a great victory over the orange taliban and unfortunately this shameful playing of the sectarian card will find “fertile minds to be illusioned”.

    This is the part I dont get, it sort of conflicts with “The Normalisation Policy”

  • Mr Crowley

    The shinners will sell this as a great victory over the orange taliban and unfortunately this shameful playing of the sectarian card will find “fertile minds to be illusioned”.

    This is the part I dont get, it sort of conflicts with “The Normalisation Policy”
    Posted by tacapall on Jan 14, 2010 @ 12:11 AM

    Not at all cara, it is the epitomy of normalisation. British rule is normalised and administered locally ‘Ulsterised’ in an atmosphere of institutionalised sectarianism; divide and conquer. It’s not like they aren’t following a centuries old blueprint.

  • tacapall

    So were gonna get a sequel only its Sinn Feins turn to govern and its all been planned, looks like history repeating itself.

  • USA

    Wow, you guys need to get out more.
    Why don’t you take a nice walk down to the local chemist and buy yourselves a box of reality pills.

  • Mr Crowley

    Wow, you guys need to get out more.
    Why don’t you take a nice walk down to the local chemist and buy yourselves a box of reality pills.
    Posted by USA on Jan 14, 2010 @ 02:21 AM

    What an insightful and constructive contribution. You might consider qualifying your comment with some reasoned analysis or counterpoint.
    It’s ironic in the extreem to have a contributor from the land of ultimate political illusion making snide comments about ‘reality’. You would do well to consider a radical course of cranial defecation.

  • Alias

    The problem the Shinner muppets will create for themselves in prematurely trying to spin this apparently imminent concession by the DUP on a date for devolution of P & J as a victory for “the republican strategy” (remember that oft-touted but now buried phrase?) is that the DUP will demand balancing concessions from the Shinners, so except the Shinners to dance a little victory dance on P&J with their voters in that sectarian game of give and take and expect the DUPers to also dance a little victory dance on parades (and possible reform of Stormont or at the very least the leader of the largest party no longer being guaranteed the First Minister’s job) with their voters.

    While both parties will try to sell this to their respective voters as evidence of great political skill on their respective parts, the reality is both parties are now fully exposed as puppets of the British state. It is quite clear who is pulling the strings (and it isn’t a docile dolt like Mr Woodward).

    The hard-line unionists will cry sell-out and betrayal by the British state, citing a plethora of the usual historical examples. But what they never quite grasped is that the British state is loyal to its own national interests first and foremost and does not reward parties or ethnic groups simply because they are loyal to the British state (that practice ended with the rise of the UN after WW2). This is not the plantation period.

    Likewise, the Shinners will try to spin the fact that they enjoy the support of the British state as being evidence that the British state is pursuing a ‘republican’ agenda rather than evidence that the Shinners are pursuing the British state’s agenda.

    In all of this, however, the British state is simply pursuing its own national security agenda. Just as it used its puppets to persuade their supporters to endorse the legitimacy of British sovereignty over the formerly disputed territory, it now uses those puppets to persuade those supporters to endorse the legitimacy of its security services and its judiciary. If the Shinners did not make themselves useful to their master in this way then they would not of course enjoy the protection of the British state.

    The only thing that matters in all of this to the British state is that the grassroots supporters of the Shinners are led to fully endorse its security services without any reservation. For all his political acumen, that is something that Mr Robinson apparently did not grasp. But he gets it now…

  • Danny Boy

    After all this wrangling about when to devolve policing and justice, how do people think Stormont will actually manage p+j once (presumably) it is devolved? What are the odds of another education-style cock-up?

  • joeCanuck

    the British state is loyal to its own national interests first and foremost and does not reward parties or ethnic groups simply because they are loyal to the British state

    Generally true but a well run campaign can change that as Joanna Lumley can testify to, helping in getting some Gurkhas the right to come and live in the UK.

  • Mr Crowley

    Generally true but a well run campaign can change that as Joanna Lumley can testify to, helping in getting some Gurkhas the right to come and live in the UK.
    Posted by joeCanuck on Jan 14, 2010 @ 07:18 PM

    A little late for most of the Gurkhas who fought in WW2 and very much a token gesture. The fact that it took over 60 years and a very public campaign speaks volumes about the attitude of the British establishment to its dupes and lackies. The evidence of this attitude was strewn all over the Mull of Kintyre.