Plans for a huge Ski centre shot down by the IDA

It was always a long shot, but I’m disappointed to see that the Snowtopia scheme has been rejected by An Bord Pleanala.

Per the Indo report.

MASSIVE plans for a €100m indoor ski resort in west Dublin, which could have created 1,000 permanent jobs, have been turned down by An Bord Pleanala.

Developers of the snow and ice leisure centre at Tyrellstown expressed “extreme disappointment” at the decision by the planning authority to uphold a refusal by Fingal County Council last February .

And a spokewoman for Twinlite Ltd said it was “very sad when the IDA (the Industrial Development Agency) objects to a project which would create 1,000 badly needed jobs”.

An Bord Pleanala refused planning permission for the development, arguing that it would conflict with local land zoning objectives, would draw custom from the nearby Blanchardstown cinema, and was poorly served by public transport.

And a pertinent comment by conor_mc on the propertypin

My God – we couldn’t have the little chisellers actually getting some exercise! No, no – cinema tickets, buckets of popcorn and even bigger buckets of fizzy drinks.

We need to make sure we don’t draw custom from our hospitals either, don’t you know!

This was a fully funded scheme that would have created permenant jobs in West Dublin as well as construction jobs while building it. The argument that the area is poorly served by public transport is a non sequitor, as the project would create the demand for public transport. The local residents, young people who have paid a fortune for property so poorly served in all respects, would have benefited too.

  • Drumlins Rock

    so Mack, where is the vested interests? there has to be a catch somewhere is this

  • Mack

    Also from the Indo report –

    The site also adjoins a major pharmaceutical industrial plant, Bristol Myers Squibb. The planning board said that because of the proposed scale of Snowtopia, with significant numbers of the public visiting the site, its presence “would be prejudicial to the future operation and possible expansion” of the pharmaceutical plant and would therefore militate against achieving the science and technology zoning objective.

    I can’t quite understand that argument – if it is safe now, why would it not be safe in the future?

    It’s also near a residential area, if it is not going to be safe in the future, wouldn’t the pharma plant have to be relocated somewhere else?

  • Rory Carr

    The argument from the Indo report, Mack, is not addressed at any deletorious effects that the chemical plant might have upon the safety of users of the ski slope but rather on the negative effects the ski slope might have upon the chemical plant, in particular upon any plans for “future operation and possible expansion” as you yourself have quoted.

    I must admit that I fail to understand why anyone in these islands takes up skiing. It’s not bloody Norway or Finland. It just doesn’t snow that much here that skis would be a useful way of getting about. Ever. We might as well trade in all our 4×4’s and VW’s and buy ourselves camels which might at least help us to get around in coastal areas.

  • Mack

    Rory –

    I was assuming that put the dampeners on potential future activities that may cause deleterious affects to health, rather than being simply a matter of spatial considerations or traffic (they need to improve the roads around Tyrellstown anyway).

  • Paddy Matthews

    We need to make sure we don’t draw custom from our hospitals either, don’t you know!

    Surely a ski slope would have provided James Connolly Memorial with even more customers? Perhaps even creating extra demand for trolley manufacturers?

  • The Raven

    “It just doesn’t snow that much here that skis would be a useful way of getting about. Ever.”

    Yet….

  • Rory Carr

    Hmmph! All those faux Christmas winterscene decorations are clearly making an impression upon you, Raven. Reindeer will never replace an asal as the preferred beast of burden in Ould Ireland. Even Hollywood would baulk at that. It conflicts with the popular profile.

  • Drumlins Rock

    how much influence would the chemical plant owners have on the planning decision I wonder?

  • ciaran

    Even less chance of snow in dubai but a great indoor snow arena there. Did I read correctly, “MASSIVE plans for a €100m indoor ski resort in west Dublin, which could have created 1,000 permanent jobs, have been turned down by An Bord Pleanala.” 1000 jobs that must be some place.