“And long may he do so”

On the Politics Show today, no video, as well as all but declaring her intention to run in the SDLP leadership contest, the Northern Ireland Social Development Minister, Magaret Ritchie, admitted missing the “non-negotiable” targets for social housing new-builds – “nearly 1300” out of a 1500 target. Meanwhile the NI Regional Development Minister, Sinn Féin’s Conor Murphy, declined to rule out the introduction of further water charges even though, as Jim Fitzpatrick pointed out, his party could veto their introduction if they chose to. He also complained about the “unfortunate” leaking of documents before the NI Executive could discuss them. A dutiful Conor Murphy also dismissed speculation about the leadership of his party by the International Representative for west Belfast. Jim Fitzpatrick asked, “Is there never going to be a vacancy there?”.

“I don’t think Gerry Adams hangs on. Gerry Adams is our leader and I think we’re very very glad to have him as our leader. So, just because we don’t suffer the same disarray as some of the other parties it doesn’t mean there’s a particular problem in Sinn Féin. We’re very very content and glad that Gerry Adams continues to lead us and long may he do so.”

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  • When Thatcher or Major said that a Minister´s “position is unassailable” then we all knew the person in question was for the chop pretty soon. Is the above an SF code for the same thing?

  • Comrade Stalin

    I wonder what Gerry ever does. He’s never in the Assembly except when something big happens.

  • John O’Connell

    John Henry

    No. It just means that Conor has his eye on the job and wants to show unwavering loyalty while he bides his time.

    But the Antichrist is hanging on just as Conor denies he is. Irrelevant down South, about to be shown as lacking judgement over the Lisbon treaty, and still being squeezed during a crisis of the political centre, he has no purpose there. And added to that, up North he is just a figurehead, not really performing any function.

  • Thanks for the explanation, John. That nice link you posted also explains why kids were not allowed to have fun on a Sunday. All the best.

  • Ulick

    I probably shouldn’t ask this, but John, presuming you believe there is only one Christ, how can you have two anti-Christs at the same time? (as in your website there has Paisley and Adams both pegged as the anti-Christ.)

  • John O’Connell

    Ulick

    You need to know your book. There are two beasts in the Book of Revelation Chapter 13, one is assumed to be the Antichrist and the other is downgraded to the false prophet.

    Adams is defying the New Testament teachings of Jesus and so is the Antichrist. Paisley is a false prophet to the Old Testament tradition of prophets, the unionist tradition in our sphere.

  • The Hacker

    Gerry cannot give up his position as leader. Murphy is by far the best replacement, but, the provo politburo will be reluctant to hand over power to another Northerner. Mary Lou has imploded by failing to get a TD office/seat and losing her euro seat. So shes out and will quietly dumped. We won’t be exposed to that confident grin for very long. If FF ever get them- selves sorted she might try there but she will knocking on the door for a very long time.The other problem Gerry has is the southern comrades.They seem to be more politically advanced and do not seem to be under the miltary grip or influence as their commrades in the north.
    So like or not Gerry in Ireland is te public face of Sinn Fein and looks like he will be in the saddle for some time to come.

  • Ulick

    Thanks John.

  • Ulick, you are also forgetting the Holy Trinity. My interpretation of the proof provided by Mr. O´Connell is that Adams is the anti-Christ and that Paisley is the anti-Father. This leaves the anti-Holy Ghost position open and unless it is already taken, I nominate Bono.

  • John O’Connell

    John Henry

    Interesting position to hold. But you might nominate Satan as the anti-holy spirit. Certainly it is a trinity of evil that Mr Adams and Mr Paisley are involved in. In many respects we have witnessed during the Troubles Paisley crossing them over for Adams to nod in and vice versa. And Satanism is at the heart of militant republicanism and violent loyalism, so it inspires them both.

  • Comrade Stalin

    The Hacker:

    Gerry cannot give up his position as leader. Murphy is by far the best replacement, but, the provo politburo will be reluctant to hand over power to another Northerner.

    What absolute rubbish. SF is run by Northerners.

  • Sean

    You shouldn’t feed his delusions, it doesn’t help him or the site

  • granni trixie

    Rumour has it that Adams likes to spend time in a place he has in Manhattan….then there’s his place in Donegal. So why on earth would he not want to ‘retire’?

  • Bit odd that a party seeking Irish unity would have Northerner/Southerner problems…

  • Thereyouarenow

    What more can Gerry Adams do.

    It is time for Sinn Féin to move on and it would be good if that leader could from the South but I do not see anyone that stands out.

    I would agree that Conor Murphy is the best person for the job.

    If the quote above is correct then the the use of the word “particular” certainly pricked my ears and eyes as interesting.

  • John O’Connell

    Comrade Stalin

    What absolute rubbish. SF is run by Northerners.

    The point made is valid in the sense that Sinn Fein cannot afford to be seen to be led by another Northerner if they want southern votes.

    However, it just demonstrates the hollowness of their claim to be an all Ireland party when they can’t produce a leader from the South.

    Adams is damaged goods in the South. Sinn fein is suffering as a consequence. The north has yet to catch up on the south but the reality is that Sinn Fein have no policy in the North that would single them out as a sustainable party. They are in effect hollow and every day at Stormont where they copy mostly, but not exclusively, SDLP policies they are found wanting.

    They are in danger of becoming a party without any real sense of identity other than a militant ethnic one. They are the warriors in other words and the Nationalist community cannot afford to be led by the warriors. It needs to be led by the policy makers not the policy takers, leaders not ruffians who haven’t got a clue.

  • Comrade Stalin

    John, that’s up to the electorate, but Sinn Fein may yet figure out that the way to win in the south is to set up a separate southern leadership with visible autonomy from those in NI. The SDLP’s proposed tie-up with Fianna Fail is as misguided as anything SF have tried in the RoI.

    Remember, this whole “bring SF into politics” thing was the idea of John Hume.

    Murphy’s comments remind me of my favourite line from the Hymn of the Soviet Union :


    Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin led us
    Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above
    and Gerry our Leader with faith in the People,
    Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

  • John O’Connell

    Comrade Stalin

    Remember, this whole “bring SF into politics” thing was the idea of John Hume.

    I think you’ll find that Bobby Sands had more influence there. John Hume wanted them brought in from the cold after they were in politics.

    Your verse is most appropriate for Sinn Fein. Communists and militants without a clue as to what the people really want imposing their schoolboy fantasies on others and in the process justifying their masculinity.

  • Comrade Stalin

    I think you’ll find that Bobby Sands had more influence there. John Hume wanted them brought in from the cold after they were in politics.

    I’d have thought it reasonably obvious that this is what I meant.

  • igor

    Isn’t it deliciously ironic that the party that denies the right of NI to be a separate state has a dilemma as its southern members wont accept another northern ‘foreigner’ as leader

  • igor

    Oh get real guys. The main driver for getting them into politics were the Brits!!

    Why as Adams hauled out of Long Kesh to meet Whitelaw? Why were the Brits keeping a hidden channel open through the worst years of the Troubles? Who constructed, engineered massaged and led the process at every stage?

  • joeCanuck

    imposing their schoolboy fantasies on others

    You really don’t understand “irony”, do you John.

    Hehehehehehehe

  • Comrade Stalin

    igor, whether or not this was all the idea of the British, SF needed a democratically elected politician with standing to make them acceptable to middle class nationalists, and that was John Hume. Those of us with a cynical bent believe that Hume wished to seize the glory as the man who brought peace to Ireland by bringing SF to the table. The ceasefire breakdown in 1996 must have been an especially bitter blow for him.

  • The Hacker

    Boys the point is can Sinn Fein back the cuts?
    Their representation is based, for the most part, in areas of high unemployment and social deprivation.What and how are they going to sell this to their members and voters when the brit labour party is going to get hammered over cuts they will have to introduce.