What does £1,148,992 get you these days?

Beyond the eye-catching figure, from the official accounts for 2008 lodged with the Electoral Commission, that in Northern Ireland Sinn Féin topped the political parties total expenditure list at £1,148,992 – compared to the DUP’s roughly £440,000 across 4 accounts, the UUP’s £397,734, and the SDLP’s £290,169 – there are some interesting details. Sinn Féin’s largest single expenditure noted in the 2008 accounts [pdf file], their “Wages and related costs” bill, rose to £444,637 in 2008 from 2007’s £266,946 – in 2006 it was a mere £171,861. In terms of income, the party has stopped separately itemising “Donations” and “Contributions from elected Reps”.

In the 2007 accounts, “Donations” for 2006 were listed as £103,377. 2007 saw an increase to £298,710 with a corresponding “Contributions from elected Reps” at £490,561.

By 2008, however, the now apparently combined “Donations” amounted to £530,246 with a new category of income “Admin and secretarial support” bringing in £332,479 – that doesn’t seem to be solely the so-called Hain money which, according to this research paper [pdf file] in the Parliamentary library is around £97,000 for 2009/10.

Between 2007 and 2008 the party’s Northern Ireland “Admin expenses” rose from £91,554 to £246,122.

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  • Oh my God!

    Pete, you must be the life and soul of social gathering you attend (if any). Parliamentary research papers. Jesus Christ.

  • John O’Connell

    It’s a wonder they’re able to get figures for Sinn Fein. Aren’t they famed for their lying? I’ve seen figures submitted for election expenses here in Derry a fraction of what they must be due to the amount of literature and advertising and posters they use. But the overall figures seem not to be that far wrong. If they are understating the figures to a material extent it would be a case of them trying to buy us all. Sinn Fein, never.

  • the joxer

    Go get a life, Pete.

  • The Raven

    People, if you don’t like the topic, would it not be easier to move on to something that you do?

  • Oh my God!

    [i]People, if you don’t like the topic, would it not be easier to move on to something that you do? [/i]

    Pete repeatedly tells us that it is his right to mock and laugh at Sinn Féin. Fair enough.

    Accordingly, everyone else has the right to mock and laugh at Pete’s obsession.

    [i]I’ve seen figures submitted for election expenses here in Derry a fraction of what they must be due to the amount of literature and advertising and posters they use.[/i]

    And then people wonder why PSF are now the dominant political voice within northern Irish nationalism. With talented individuals like John O’Connell, Eugene “dude, where’s my Assembly seat?” McMenamin and Big Useless Durks himself in the north-west alone they are truly destined for political oblivion. Why much more talented individuals like Albs and McDonnell don’t do something about the situation is beyond me.

    By the way, John, you said yesterday that one could distinguish a PSF supporter by their lack of empathy. I repeat the question asked of you yesterday:

    On the basis of last month’s elections, north and south, do you believe that over 330,000 people on this island lack empathy?

  • dunreavynomore

    The rising wage bill proves that nobody wants to be a revolutionary nowadays unless the pay is good, their cards are stamped and provision is made for pensions. The hunger strikers… who mentioned them?

  • abacus

    If there’s a story here it’s the openness of Sinn Fein’s report and in particular their recognition of the support they receive from US supporters and the donations of their own elected representatives – contrasted with the concealment of the DUP.

    Why the need for four sets of accounts? Is it anything to do with a different set of reporting standards for income over £250K?

  • Frank Sinistra

    abacus,

    Cash collected in the US is not permitted to be used in support of work in Ireland. Anything you want to tell us?

  • fin

    “nobody wants to be a revolutionary nowadays unless the pay is good, their cards are stamped and provision is made for pensions. The hunger strikers… who mentioned them?”

    a lot of ‘revolutionaries’ wouldn’t have existed if nationalists had the freedom to earn a decent salary (or possiblyy qualify for a vote or even a council house) but heyho them were the good ol’ days when a taig knew his place, I’m sure you miss them

  • Frank Sinistra

    Pete,

    The wages bill does make for interesting reading.

    MPs, MLAs and the MEP will get at least one staff member paid for via allowances (in some cases money) and we know SF staff under this declaration are all on circa £23k – that must mean SF are running a staff of around 300 people in support of their elected reps.

  • John O’Connell

    Oh My God!

    mock and laugh

    Some of us consider our work a sacred duty. Yet you want to mock and laugh.

    In answer to your question, which I think you’re typically asking in the Sinn Fein way, looking for a grievance, I would say yes to a greater or lesser extent.

    How can it be otherwise when they excuse the pasts of the IRA and Sinn Fein.

    Why much more talented individuals like Albs and McDonnell don’t do something about the situation is beyond me.

    How do you know that we’re not leading you into a Russian winter?

  • Oh my God!

    [i]How do you know that we’re not leading you into a Russian winter? [/i]

    Because the party seems to be reliant on the mentally ill, like yourself. How can you perform your sacred duty and lead the resurgence of a once formidable political party while required to pay frequent visits to Gransha?

    [i]How can it be otherwise when they excuse the pasts of the IRA and Sinn Fein. [/i]

    Do remind us, oh Lamb of Goodness, what did Jesus (isn’t that you, aswell?) tell us about forgiveness?

  • John O’Connell

    Oh my God

    Do remind us, oh Lamb of Goodness, what did Jesus (isn’t that you, aswell?) tell us about forgiveness?

    He said something about repentance too.

    Because the party seems to be reliant on the mentally ill, like yourself. How can you perform your sacred duty and lead the resurgence of a once formidable political party while required to pay frequent visits to Gransha?

    Hiding behind anonymity and issuing insults about things you know nothing about is so Sinn Fein. Well done.

  • PD

    Raven, its putting us off slugger. This guys a twat, with an agenda. Its really OTT for this site. Mick you’ll soon be getting linked to from the young unionists and eirigi – is that the cutting edge appeal you’re looking for maybe…? Zzzzzzzzzz

  • percy

    I’d just like to ask what has this got to do with the news today that
    “NI justice ministry step closer”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8175996.stm

    pete you wouldn’t be distracting our attention with mis-direction now would ya 😉 Never, never..

  • Oh my God!

    [i]Hiding behind anonymity and issuing insults about things you know nothing about is so Sinn Fein.[/i]

    You see, John, that latest rant is symptomatic of your delusion. You cannot countennance the possibility that there are people out there who are neither PSF activists, members nor voters but believe that you are a very sad, unfortunate individual in need of urgent assistance.

    It’s telling that you invariably fail to address the issue at hand but immediately reveal to us your contempt for the party, and then follow this up with a cut-and-paste job from your website. Durkan must be thrilled to be able to count on your support.

    See you at Raymond’s.

  • dunreavynomore

    Fin
    I happen to be a “taig” myself and was one of those who was in ‘the republican movement’ when it was dangerous and we didn’t get paid; Well full time activists who were single got £10 while those who were married got £20 so you’d hardly call that pay and as often as not the money didn’t appear. I saw volunteers standing outside dances asking people going in for the entrance fee! And, you know, Fin, we never thought it was a vote in council elections or a house we were fighting for. The civil rights movement sorted that out anyhow. We actually were seeking the withdrawal of the British government all its works but we realise now that some of us were seeking property portfolios and their own place in a British 6 cos administration.

  • Pete Baker

    percy

    A BBC report following the Executive meeting is noted in an update to the relevant post.

    Now, back to the topic.

  • dunreavynomore

    Fin,
    just a final point, I was one of those ‘taigs’ who ‘never knew his place’ and , do you know, I still don’t.

  • John O’Connell

    believe that you are a very sad, unfortunate individual in need of urgent assistance.

    Do I detect a lack of empathy for other human beings? You may deny it but you are typically Sinn Fein and you’re a paid employee who is attempting to mark me.

    Do you think you could keep your mark (of the beast) to yourself?

    Finally could you grow up?

  • Oh my God!

    [i]Do you think you could keep your mark (of the beast) to yourself?[/i]

    If you truly are the Lamb of God, Jesus or even God Him/Herself, then why are you so worried of us fully paid-up Shinners lacking in empathy? I also stated that you are in need of urgent assistance – exactly how does that demonstrate a lack of empathy?

    Also, where is yout proof that I am a “paid employee”? Let’s be having ye, John…

  • J Kelly

    dunreavymore and most of us are still fighting for a british withdrawal

  • Pete Baker

    Frank

    You may want to run that calculation again.

    I’m not sure where you get the “around 300 people” from?

    Of course those employed are not, necessarily, employed “in support of their elected reps”.

    They are employees of the party. To be deployed as the party wishes.

  • John O’Connell

    If you truly are the Lamb of God, Jesus or even God Him/Herself, then why are you so worried of us fully paid-up Shinners lacking in empathy?

    That’s easy. It was fully paid up Shinners lacking in empathy that put me on the cross 2,000 years ago. You may not believe that but the only thing not the same as 2000 years ago is the unionists. Everything else is as was.

    I also stated that you are in need of urgent assistance – exactly how does that demonstrate a lack of empathy?

    You come across as a nasty little piece of work. You don’t understand empathy because you were born without it. I can’t help that but you must repent.

    Also, where is yout proof that I am a “paid employee”?

    I can’t think that you’d get any more than pocket money so there probably is no proof. But I’m keeping you under review for investigation by the PSNI for harassment.

  • Dixie

    I hear the Drummer boy is out of tune with the residents of Bloomfield,Ederowen and Elaghmore over ‘community units.’
    Imagine those people having the impertinence to say no to those on the GDT of all the nerve!
    Well things have got hot and heavy and aren’t going to plan.

  • Oh my God!

    [i]That’s easy. It was fully paid up Shinners lacking in empathy that put me on the cross 2,000 years ago. You may not believe that but the only thing not the same as 2000 years ago is the unionists. Everything else is as was.[/i]

    Brilliant stuff.

    [i]But I’m keeping you under review for investigation by the PSNI for harassment. [/i]

    John, after you get fed up with the whole “I am Jesus” act, have you considered a career in comedy? You confuse mockery with illegality. But go ahead, I’m sure the lads down at Strand Road could do with a laugh or seven.

    The only harassment that goes on on this site is from you with your ceaseless “I am God, Adams is the Devil” bullshit.

  • John O’Connell

    Oh my God

    But go ahead, I’m sure the lads down at Strand Road could do with a laugh or seven.

    Wait and see, my little friend.

    The only harassment that goes on on this site is from you with your ceaseless “I am God, Adams is the Devil” bullshit.

    I think you’re deeply disturbed and really aren’t the sort of person that Slugger was designed for. You really have to have something to say more than mockery. Why don’t you get a life, my little friend.

  • sj1

    Good luck to mick trying to get ppl to think outside the boundaries. This religious rubbish would put jesus off reading slugger. Couldn’t somebody take it in hand?

  • chris

    This site is finished for me, this twat has single handedly killed it for me ! good bye, I shall not be returning

  • J Kelly

    Dixie and i thought your only interest was in getting at the truth with no axe to grind…that chip must be a heavy burden

  • Sean

    Who knew there were fully paid up shinners 2000 years ago?

    Thats some political party it survived the Romans and the norsemen!

  • Sean

    Second thought here

    If the Shinners were in israel in time to crucify john/jesus would that make the Irish the lost tribe of the Israelites?

    OOhh think of the posibilities

  • dunreavynomore

    Sean, some unionists already claimed
    years ago to be that lost tribe which makes me wonder if there were orange marches at that time too.

  • Jonrus

    Hate to state the obvious, but isn’t their budget bigger because they’re the only all-Ireland party?

  • Harassment Ford

    [i]I think you’re deeply disturbed and really aren’t the sort of person that Slugger was designed for. You really have to have something to say more than mockery. Why don’t you get a life, my little friend. [/i]

    Having another introspective dialogue there are we, John? You should take your own advice sometimes, my little crucified friend.

  • michael

    “some unionists already claimed years ago to be that lost tribe”

    Lost, or did the other tribes hide behind Mt Sinai till they fecked off?

  • Rory Carr

    One set of the filed DUP accounts prove to be interesting – those of the DUP NI General Party Account 2008. The Balance Sheet includes a figure for Land and Bulidings of £250,000 which has mysteriously leaped from £120,000 at 1 Dec 2007 without either any apparent addition or appreciation being accounted for during the year or any explaination being offered in the notes to the accounts. Which is strange to say the least.

  • John O’Connell

    Having another introspective dialogue there are we, John? You should take your own advice sometimes, my little crucified friend.

    I don’t think that you’ll feel good about yourself when you find out the truth. So I’m giving you this advice: don’t let the big boys use you to fight their battles, my little friend, for the sake of pocket money.

  • the joxer

    Truly Slugger is now plumbing the depths of tedious mediocrity.

  • Oh my God!

    Watch out, jox, your contempt and derision is bordering on criminal harassment. I live in fear as I await the knock on my door any day now

  • zzzzzzzzz

    Truly Slugger is now plumbing the depths of tedious mediocrity.

    Posted by the joxer on Jul 31, 2009 @ 06:03 PM
    Slugger has always plumbed the depths of tedious mediocrity. Mainly through the contributions of really interesting people like yourself with well thought out in depth interesting things to say.No sleeping pills for me a few minutes of turgon fin or pete baker and its of to bed to sleep like a top.Safe in the knowledge that fek all is going to change if you people represent the above average thinking voter.

  • Dixie

    Dixie and i thought your only interest was in getting at the truth with no axe to grind…that chip must be a heavy burden

    Ah the old chip on the shoulder thingy…How very Sinn Feinish of you, J Kelly!

    As far as the truth is concerned I’m always looking on the bright side of life…

  • the joxer

    ‘No sleeping pills for me a few minutes of turgon fin or pete baker and its of to bed’?????

    Eh? What did I say about plumbing the depths?

  • john’s little friend

    zzzzzz: your account has to be the most unintentionally ironic statement I’ve ever read on this site.

  • Oh my God!

    [i]…issuing insults about things you know nothing about is so Sinn Fein. Well done.[/i]

    Posted by John O’Connell on Jul 30, 2009 @ 09:21 PM

    [i]How very Sinn Feinish of you, J Kelly![/i]

    Posted by Dixie on Jul 31, 2009 @ 06:40 PM

    Have we got some sort of SDLP-INLA alliance going on here that we should know about? Or did ye boys just attend the same school?

  • Dixie

    Oh my God!

    Do you mean in the same way that Elisha McLaughlin and Pat Ramsey are united in their defence of Joe Miller’s British Police force, the PSNI [Incorporating the Royal Ulster Constabulary] to give it it’s full official title?

    …And talking of Alliances won’t they be in charge of policing and justice? Thats as good as giving it straight to the Chief Constable.

  • Oh my God!

    [i]Do you mean in the same way that Elisha McLaughlin and Pat Ramsey are united in their defence of Joe Miller’s British Police force, the PSNI [Incorporating the Royal Ulster Constabulary] to give it it’s full official title?[/i]

    Yes, that’s pretty much exactly what I mean! There you go again, Dixie, thinking that everyone who utters a word that you happen to disagree with, or slags off the INLA/IRSP, is some sort of PSF stooge. You and JOC have a lot in common.

  • Brian MacAodh

    The IPLO are Ireland’s true revolutionaries