Rooftop agitprop

Kathleen has blogged on the competing commemorations for the 90th anniversary of the first Dail.

During today’s event éirígí delivered their message from the roof of the Mansion House:

“90 Years on – No closer to freedom – end the occupation”

  • Clever move, and inventive. A real flair for the dramatic making them hard to ignore. It would have been funnier though if they had done it tomorrow.

  • Mick Fealty

    Funnier maybe; but with much less impact…

  • Mark McGregor

    Gari,

    “It would have been funnier though if they had done it tomorrow.”

    Would have been hilarious. Still I reckon the Gards would let them in tomorrow if they fancy another go.

  • Mick,

    That’s true, although might have meant more to the target audience in terms of embarassing the Provos.

    Mark,

    We can hope although the alternative policing types there mightn’t be so accomodating.

  • frustrated democrat

    More dinosaurs to add to those on t’other side, maybe they should have a get together.

  • dunreavynomore

    Inventive, clever and funny, definitely.
    Éírígí, however, need to get deeper into politics than stunt pulling if they wish to be taken seriously. Their statement was long on finger pointing at everyone else (including ‘the political class in the 26 cos, the political class in the 6 cos must be o.k,’) but short on saying what they themselves would do.

  • RepublicanStones

    Whats the story with the corpo jackets?

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Oh, heroic stuff! I suppose it was them boys who pulled the inane stunt at the Israeli embassy too as they were in Dublin today!

    Eirigi are the loonies of Irish Republicanism. Aloof and out of touch with the people and politics!

    Embarrasing really.

    (No doubt, Ronnie Drew and Luke Kelly are turning in their graves at the thoughts of being associated with such hard-men half-wits.)

  • Sarah

    They really are industrial strength douchebags aren’t they?

    The video itself is hilarious with the Irish music in the background and a narrator that sounds like he’s doing a voice over for a really gritty drama about the famine or Father Ted.

    Rebellion? Come on, I’ve seen old people protest against water tax that looked more rebellious than this lot. You painted a sign, well done.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Rebellion? Come on, I’ve seen old people protest against water tax that looked more rebellious than this lot. You painted a sign, well done.”

    Indeed, the OAPs protest recently in Dublin about pensions had far more impact, substance, meaning and popular support!

  • Dave

    They’re good at scoring own goals. This one sets them up as a rabble of louts, not to be touched with a 90-mile barge poll (or whatever the actual distance is from Dawson Street to the Falls Road).

  • Five Alive

    Cheap bastards, could they not have had a rip around for a few superhero costumes?

    These types of protest aren’t what they used to be.

  • NCM

    Greagoir O Frainclin: “Eirigi are the loonies of Irish Republicanism. Aloof and out of touch with the people and politics!”

    Just like the leaders of 1916. I mean, what the hell were they thinking, carrying on like that?

  • KieranJ

    If they had any courage they would have dropped that sign over the roof at Stormont.

    A piss poor stunt, indeed.

  • fionn

    Sarah,

    “The video itself is hilarious with the Irish music in the background and a narrator that sounds like he’s doing a voice over for a really gritty drama about the famine or Father Ted.”

    Narrator? I Take it you’ve never heard of the bauld Ronnie or the Dubliners then?

  • Cahal

    There’s no escaping the facts – 90 years after the 1st Dail and part of Ireland remains under the control of an English parliament. Irish self determination looks further away than ever.

  • Rory Carr

    “Irish self determination looks further away than ever.”

    Oh, don’t worry, Cahal, the heroes of éirigí will have us all united quicker than you can say “Dan Breen”.

    I’ll go and put the kettle on.

  • x

    congratulations to those brave eirigi chaps, they win the prize for stating the bleedin obvious.

    But like the emperor’s new clothes – please don’t let on, it only annoys SF and the RA. Infact don’t even try and analyse it because you might end up thinking that Trimble won in 1998 and the DUPs have been equally slow to catch on.

    So for the sake of the peace process, Gerry’s retirement fund and Peter’s place in the sun dont keep going on about it.

    We all know that Collins promised a united independant Ireland and so did Dev and all those that came after but ssssssssssh let them celebarate thier failure in peace – isn’t that what we all wanted “Peace”

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Just like the leaders of 1916. I mean, what the hell were they thinking, carrying on like that?”

    Oh dear, so NCM, are you comparing yesterday’s stunt to 1916. Heroic stuff indeed!
    Eirigi sure are stuck in the past, big time! A piss-poor version of republicanism with bankrupt ideology, peppered with out-dated thinking. To think about all that has happened in Ireland since the last century… partition, guerilla war, civil war, civil rights, discrimination, murder abound, mayhem abound, broken people, broken lives, scarred, maimed etc… But yet people managed to compromise. People have agreed. People have moved on. Except the likes of Eirigi and the ‘hard-men’, ‘thick skulled’ dissidents!

    I remind Eirigi folk of the Orange portion on the Irish Republican flag. It represents the British people of NI. The bombing and murder of such people into submission didn’t work, but in fact drove the wedge in deeper between the people on this island. Can you not understand that? Why are you all so thick?

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘Oh dear, so NCM, are you comparing yesterday’s stunt to 1916.’

    GOF everything in the world can be compared. One may compare an apple to an orange.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Very true, Republican Stones…and poets are usually quite adept at this!

    NCM

    Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?
    Thou art more lovely and more temperate…..

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

  • sensible…..

  • eranu

    not a bad piece of performance art from the errgys (or however its pronounced). but i do feel its lacking in something, especially given the big occasion. perhaps a bit of painting? those blue uniformed garda walking around are far too british looking, its outrageous! they should be repainted bright green thereby hastening a united ireland, obviously… perhaps after a bit of greening they could organise a field trip to the site where gerry mc cabe was murdered for a good old gloat, then there’d be just time for a cup of green tea before piling into the 1989 ford transit that someone managed to borrow from work, for the long journey back to whatever hole of an area they are from.

  • darth rumsfeld

    ..where’s the blood sacrifice?
    Surely they should have occupied the Mansion House and invited the Guards to come and have a go if they think they’re hard enough

    Though I think you are a wee bit hard in the Pearse comparison NCM. I’ve read his poetry, and that’s one serious loony. I mean, what rebel spends his time before throwing off the shackles of Empire by..er.. doing his tax return. Wouldn’t have want King George to think it was a money thing, I suppose..

  • Brian

    Well done éirígí.

  • blinding

    It does not do any harm to shine a light on the fact that all(certainly most) the political parties in the south despite being in favour(and party policy) of achieving a 32 county Irish Republic do nothing to advance this policy.

  • fin

    “I remind Eirigi folk of the Orange portion on the Irish Republican flag. It represents the British people of NI”

    Wasn’t Thomas Meagher clever foreseeing the partition of Ireland way back in 1848,
    sorry Greagoir it doesn’t represent them um’s and not is it called the “the Irish Republican flag” its the national flag (or tricolour to it’s mates’)
    but apart from that you’re bang on the money,

  • Billyo

    Oh gravity why did you forsake us in our hour of need?

  • Earnan

    This accomplishes nothing.

  • circles

    Well it got us lot talking about it – and maybe got a few oul talking heads in the free state jabbering it too.
    Nobody hurt, nobody insulted and an issue raised. Fair play eirigi fellas – and fuck the begrudgers!

  • circles

    I think that redner that just arrived there was for Greagoir and his “irish republican flag”.
    Ohhh dear – and you’ve been trying so hard too!!

  • an tUdar

    Maith sibh Éirigí! From my limited understanding of political stunts, it was well timed in the sense that Éirigí, being a Socialist Republican party using methods of protest, were protesting at the lack of movement made by Dáil Governments since its first meeting 90 years ago (funnily enough in that same building) in delivering the Democratic Programme of that first democratically elected government!!!

    In that Democratic Programme, you won’t see any sectarianism at all. In fact you will read:

    “We declare in the words of the Irish Republican Proclamation the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland” (this includes Unionists)

    “to all its material possessions, the Nation’s soil and all its resources, all the wealth and all the wealth-producing processes within the Nation, and with him we reaffirm that all right to private property must be subordinated to the public right and welfare.” (which of course talks about the scum of privatisation, chased by those Governments both North and South – again a fair and ideological point – also note the Shell to Sea protests which Éirigí are also on record for supporting)

    Without going into it all and giving a million small quotes from it, you can read it yourself here – http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/D/DT/D.F.O.191901210015.html
    So, 1. Éirigí aren’t sectarian – in fact they are Anti-Sectarian, 2. They are of their word – their protests are ideologically driven always.

  • Frankandil

    The erics, the george bush of irish politics (silly and rather stupid but with the potential for mayhem), in common with most other militant sectarian republicans just don’t get it that unionists want no part of the ‘ireland’ they wet-dream about.

    By all means let them continue their pointless games the rest of us like living in 2009 and understand that the erics are so last century.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Back to school for the dunderheads…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ireland

  • Dave

    “I remind Eirigi folk of the Orange portion on the Irish Republican flag. It represents the British people of NI.”

    Actually, it represents Irish people, not British people. The Union Jack represents those who are British; and it also represents sovereignty for the nations that fall under that banner. You are confusing traditions with nations. The Republic of Ireland is a nation-state. There is only one valid claim to self-determination per sovereign territory, so two nations cannot share one sovereign state. When you accept that there are two nations, then it follows that there must be two states. That, now that it is formally accepted, is now it must remain.

  • Dave

    Typo: “That, now that it is formally accepted, is [b]how[/b] it must remain.”

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Actually, it represents Irish people, not British people.”

    It represents Irish people who happen to view themselves as British people as well. They are from the ‘Orange’ tradition on this island which is associated with a British identity!

  • Greagoir O Frainclin
  • Dave

    And British identity is associated with British sovereignty.

    Anyway, a flag is not a constitution. Ireland, as that document states, is for the Irish.

    “The Irish nation hereby affirms its inalienable, indefeasible, and sovereign right to choose its own form of Government, to determine its relations with other nations, and to develop its life, political, economic and cultural, in accordance with its own genius and traditions.”

    I don’t think it mentions the British nation. 😉

  • RepublicanStones

    Right lads…Im sitting up to watch the Ice Hockey on channel Five, don’t go telling me that makes me a Yank.

    Stay friends;) Youse better not be swinging with your ma’s bags !!!!???

  • NCM

    “Oh dear, so NCM, are you comparing yesterday’s stunt to 1916. Heroic stuff indeed!”

    All I am saying is that 1916 is a prime example of political action that may have appeared quite stupid to some at the time but that succeeded rather amazingly in the end.

  • HeadTheBall

    “..succeeded rather amazingly in the end.” (NCM)

    In bringing us the blessing of Partition, you mean?

  • circles

    Was just checking out those links you kindly provided Greagoir – unfortunately they completely undermine your assertion that the orange represents “the british people of northern Ireland”.
    One says “orange — standing for Irish Protestants” while wiki says “the orange represents the supporters of William of Orange”. In any case it represents the Irish nation and its people.
    Better luck next time!

  • Repsoc

    I cannot believe some of the people on heres response to a democratic organisation such as eirigi. Just because the republican normalisation parties north and south have forgot the job is not finished it does not give anyone the right to criminalise an organisation exercising their right to peaceful protest.

    The bottom line is those boys who talk of yesteryear as though it still mattered to them should have had the cowardly hearts in their mouths.

    Does anyone really believe that sinn fein being involved in a FF supported partitionist state can remove the realities that the nation has not yet achieved its final status as a soverign nation (im pretty sure the first dail talked of 32 counties not just part of a country so in fact they’d no right to celebrate something they have no connection to at all where as eirigi a 32 county movement do).

    Fact is the growth in republican activity not all over ireland proves that that sinn fein are now a mere british nationalist dominion style party squabilling with the SDLP for the upper middle class vote.

    Well done eirigi and keep up the work, more great work achieved and an organisation growing by the day.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “I think that redner that just arrived there was for Greagoir and his “irish republican flag”.
    Ohhh dear – and you’ve been trying so hard too!”

    LOL, Oh dear anyone who pedantically takes issue with the Irish flag as being described as the ‘Irish Republican flag’ has to be an ideological featherweight regarding republicanism. Carry on chasing your tail in circles.

    “I don’t think it mentions the British nation. ;)”

    Emmm…well done Sherlock, it does not mean the British nation. But for colour blinded folk the colour signifies a people of this island who identify themselves as both Irish and British. The GFA and the SAA makes reference to folk who comfortably identify with either identities.
    BTW, a 32 county Irish Republic will be only possible when we get all the people of the island on board.
    Hint: So don’t frighten folk away!

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Regarding Republicanism and Irish Republicanism, it appears that some of the folk here have got their education from the slogans and murals whilst hanging around street corners.

    Thomas Paine’s ‘The Rights of Man’…there’s a good starting point for ye’s!

  • RepublicanStones

    GOF I’ll see your ‘Rights of Man’ and raise ya ‘The Social Contract’ and ‘Two Treatises of Government’….

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    And here’s to that Republican Stones…..Huzzah!

    Sláinte!

  • NCM

    HeadTheBall: “..succeeded rather amazingly in the end.” (NCM)

    In bringing us the blessing of Partition, you mean?

    ***

    In getting anywhere at all, really. I mean, 3/4 of the counties no longer in Britain but in an Irish Republic ain’t a bad starting point. 26 down, 6 to go is better than 0 down, 32 to go, in my book.

  • Two treatises of Government? Contractualist yes, but surely a constitutional monarchist tract?

    The Jacobin’s 1793 French Constitution sees like a winner to me.

  • Earnan

    How exactly does Erigi plan on bringing an end to the occupation of the 6 counties?? Please, I am on the edge of my seat…

    Guerilla warfare and terrorism didn’t work and in the end probably made the ending of partition farther than when they begin…yet Erigi seems to glorify those who undertook those tactics.

  • HeadTheBall

    “..ain’t a bad starting point.”

    NCM

    I would dearly love to be able to agree with you but I think Partition may well prove to be the finishing point (forever, more or less).

    There had to be a better way.

  • NCM

    HeadTheBall: “I would dearly love to be able to agree with you but I think Partition may well prove to be the finishing point (forever, more or less).

    There had to be a better way.”

    ***

    I wish I have a magic answer, but I don’t. There’s no way of knowing if Partition was but a step on the way, not the end, just as there’s no way of knowing if GFA was but a step on the way, not the end.

    One thing both show, though, is this recurring bad habit of quitting before actually winning, and I’m not going to argue here the Pollyannaish (or Panglossian) idea that everything is as good as it could be and victory is just a matter of writing a few letters to the editor. But I must say that in my opinion, eirigi has the right idea and the right approach: non-violent protest, argument, and political action. And cool videos.