Ballykinlar to Follow Boyne as Site for Historic Centre?

The Irish Government has pumped millions into preserving and developing the site of the Battle of the Boyne, as Ian Paisley was able to see first hand during his rendez-vous with outgoing Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, at the site of the new Interpretive Centre in May of this year.
Now, a Fianna Fail Senator, Cecilia Keaveney, has floated the idea of a former War of Independence internment camp and current British army base at Ballykinlar in County Down becoming the site for an Interpretive Centre in time for the 100th anniversary of the Easter Rising in 2016.

  • Stupid place to do it. Has to be in a major population centre. Like, I don’t know, Dublin, where lots of the most important action took place.

  • aquifer

    No more offers then … Sold to Mr Trump for £5m.

  • Chris Donnelly

    Garibaldy

    I don’t know about that. It’s not like Belfast is a million miles away. The fact that Downpatrick is nearby, with its tourist potential (alas not yet realised due to similar lack of ambition around St Patrick-themed tourism) should also be in its favour.

  • Driftwood

    BallyK is going to be MoD for a long time to come. Apart from Abercorn Barracks (presently 2 Rifles-then the Grenadier Guards until 2011)the assault courses, best playing fields in the UK, multiple firing ranges (best in Europe)it is home to ‘The Hollow’ special forces training village.

    It’s also ‘tucked away’.

    As for Downpatrick,-7 miles away- apart from supplying an ASDA for the squaddies, it’s a squalid run down hole. Plenty of ‘talent’ for the lower ranks to enjoy though.

  • I’m inclined to agree with Driftwood that it won’t be going anywhere. I see what you are saying about the St Patrick thing Chris, and the failure of the St Patrick’s trail or whatever it was called. I think it’s too far from Belfast. Most tourists come to the south, and if they come to the north, it tends not to be for very long, and they want to see Belfast, followed by the Giant’s Causeway. Getting to there and back would be a pain for them.

  • George

    Just 5% of the foreign tourists who come to the Republic cross the border (scary statistic) so I can’t see this bird flying at this moment in time.

  • William

    Big Cecilia has to have something to spout about and this time she started her tongue before engaging the brain….there will be no Interpretative Centre for the failed Easter Rising.

    The Battle of the Boyne was a victory which had major positive implications for the whole of Europe at the time, whilst the Easter Rising was merely the touchpaper that set off a Civil War that had former friends killing each other.

  • UFB

    “There will be no Interpretative Centre for the failed Easter Rising”

    Is that the failed Easter Rising which was the genisis for the War of Independence which drove the Brit gov out of 4/5s of Ireland.

    God but you’re an utter fucking tosspot William.

  • Sneakers O’Toole

    The Battle of the Boyne was a victory which had major positive implications for the whole of Europe at the time

    Posted by William on Nov 12, 2008 @ 01:09 AM

    Of course; many of those positive implications applying especially to Presbyterians and Catholics in Ireland…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Laws_(Ireland)#Ascendancy_rule_1691-1778

  • Sneakers O’Toole
  • Sneakers O’Toole

    Fuckit haha.

  • William

    Sneakers O’Toole…failed yet again…just like the Easter Rising…a few lunatics with guns who took over a post office

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘The Battle of the Boyne was a victory which had major positive implications for the whole of Europe at the time’

    William displaying perfectly the July mindset and thus a lack of knowledge. Boyne mattered little when compared to the Battle of Aughrim. But hey don’t let the fact your grasp of history comes from Orange Willy colouring books stop you from posting.

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “Sneakers O’Toole…failed yet again…just like the Easter Rising…a few lunatics with guns who took over a post office”

    You easily dismiss the 1916ers William … In fact the 1916ers knew they would fail!
    The ‘blood sacrifice’ of 1916 was to reawaken an Irish Nationalist consciousness as Pearse put it and in a way it succeeded. But, it took the British administration to shoot the rebels to seal the deal. Had their lives been spared it might have been a differnt story as the Irish public were initially disgusted and aghast at the uprising while the majority of Irishmen were fighting on the Western Front.

    Don’t easily dismiss the myths of ‘blood sacrifaces’ either for Unionists have one too in the guise of the Ulster 36th fighting at the Somme to prove their undying loyalty to the crown!

  • When driving along the EU-sponsored road you can see how The Battle of Curlew is commemerated by the Chieftain Statue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gaelic_Chieftain.jpg

    But I haven’t been able to find anything about The Battle of Yellow Ford when in Armagh or Mountjoy’s campaign when I’m traveling in Tyrone. Can anyone supply any historical trail info on these ? Thanks.

  • Pancho’s Horse

    MyTuppenceworth, try Dúiche Néill, journal of the O’Neill Country Historical Society No 11, 1997 foy Battle of the Yellow Ford.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]Sneakers O’Toole…failed yet again…just like the Easter Rising…a few lunatics with guns who took over a post office

    Posted by William “[/i]

    couldn’t have put it better myself. True to the mark William.

  • Dan Breen’s Revolver

    Those ‘lunatics’ were glorious martyrs who made a symbolic stand against the centuries of tryanny and oppresion that the British Empire had put through the Irish. They awoken the dormant spirit of the Gael

  • Ri Na Deise

    Is it gone dormant again now so?

    Been fast asleep in southern pastures this long while.

    Or just gruntled with dirty cash perhaps.

    Isnt politics great lads.

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘couldn’t have put it better myself.’

    I think we can all agree to that, given the level at which both yourself and Willy boy operate at.