Start collecting Gopher wood

The weather has been truly spectacularly bad today. I drove from Fermanagh to Belfast and at times thought I was actually fording rivers. It is little better in Belfast itself with various roads flooded. As a fundamentalist I do believe that the Lord will never again flood the earth but I was wondering if anyone had any spare gopher wood? Incidentally was global warming not meant to make these islands a semi arid zone? Whilst I am not doubting the importance of protecting the environment, the dangers of global warming always seem to be being evidenced by whatever sort of weather we are having at the time. The fact that equally dire warnings of exactly the opposite sort of weather were promised a year or two ago seems to be conveniently forgotten.

  • ggn

    “The fact that equally dire warnings of exactly the opposite sort of weather were promised a year or two ago seems to be conveniently forgotten.”

    Link, evidence, reference.

  • You’re wrong. Advice on global warming to the DoE said it would produce sodden summers here. Sorry I’ve lost the link but that’s what they said.

  • ggn

    Malachi,

    If my memory serves me that was indeed the prediction, not what Turgon has implied.

  • pauljames

    T

    The clue is in the title as in “Global” warming, a couple of inches of rain in our wee province is hardly significant. BTW just in case, where can you get gopher wood these days?

  • Where I am the rain has just stopped. The ending of the patter on the skylight was a bit like that absence you notice when somebody turns off the humming air conditioning that you hadn’t noticed.

  • Turgon

    malachi,

    Yes they also a few years ago explained how there was a danger due to lack of water. For example here and here and here is a book on the subject. There have been competing theories. I am sure malachi you will also remember the grave dangers of a new ice age we used to be told about in the 1970s.

    I am not saying the heavy rain is not part of climate change nor even that we are not causing it. I am, however, pointing out that there are many different theories and the ones which gain greatest credence are the ones which chime most with the weather at a given time.

  • observer

    “global warming”… the earth is actually cooling .. thats fact ,,,try doing a google or two

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    An strange and unnatural liaison between Wee Reggie and Posh Dave last week, floods this week, a plague of frogs next week ? They were warned not to let that Gay Pride march go ahead. But oh no – nobody would listen to Iris.

  • Mark McGregor

    Softies. That was just a shower. Though I did have to laugh at the new Broadway underpass becoming the most expensive duckpond in Ireland. Well done DOE you picked the right contractor there.

  • Yes, I remember that film in which New York froze. Your general point is right. And it’s raining again.

  • ggn

    Serious Question : much of the work of zoologists, biologists and geogolists is clearly anathema to some Christians and this would be “backed” up by scripture.

    It seems to me that the Christian Right have total contempt for Climatologists, it even seems to me that in some people’s mind a phd. in Climatology actually disqualifies a person from having common sense?

    But is this scriptural or simply cultural?

  • Mark McGregor

    ggn,

    Climatology doesn’t support the ‘young earth’ position therefore it is dismissed.

  • Changing Shades of Green

    Ireland’s rainfall has increased, though regional differences are evident. (Figure 1.1) At Malin Head, in the far North, annual precipitation increased by 37 percent from the 1890s to the 1990s. This shift represents, by any standard, a significant change in the weather. ..

    Climate change will not eliminate the dominance of grass in the Irish landscape in this century. It will, however, begin to threaten productivity of grasses during dry summer months. Summers like 1995 when the grass turns brown are expected to occur more often, especially in the Southeast. Cattle may be missing from the landscape during the height of summer in such areas, requiring shelter and silage supplements.

  • Dewi

    Gopher Wood

    Could be Cypress or Cedar or a miss-spelling of Kopher (any wood covered with bitumen)

    They could always do some testing

  • pauljames

    Sometimes I get to wondering, (not being able to get to the pub in this rain) why didn’t God just drown everyone and start again? just keep a close eye on the apple trees this time and no troublesome humans with pesky original sin. Job done and who would know?

  • 6countyprod

    ggn in some people’s mind a phd. in Climatology actually disqualifies a person from having common sense?

    According to the Sun-Sentinal: Al Gore and the mainstream media often remind us that the science behind man-made global warming is “settled.” But this is disputed by the 31,072 scientists registered with the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and the 34,600 Canadian scientists with the Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists. The American Physical Society, an organization of about 50,000 physicists, has recently announced a “considerable presence” of scientists who reject human-induced global warming.

    Surely it is only common sense to look at both sides of the issue, and not take one side’s view hook, line and sinker without a trace of objective thought.

  • dewi

    Paul – the trouble would be that pre modern binary of Golden Delicious v Russet.

  • Henry94

    Ronnie Drew has died and it’s raining all over Ireland and. Th sky is cring.

  • Greenflag

    henry 94

    ‘Ronnie Drew has died and it’s raining all over Ireland and. The sky is crying.’

    And so it should 🙁

    RIP to a Great Dub.

  • aquifer

    “The fact that equally dire warnings of exactly the opposite sort of weather were promised a year or two ago seems to be conveniently forgotten.”

    Climate change in these islands had long been expected to lead to wetter and stormier weather. There were detailed predictions done for Ireland by academics working in NUI Maynooth. Their predictions were for wetter in the North and West, but dryer in the SouthEast.

    There are various predictions and possibilities, including local cooling due to the Gulf Stream being arrested by the lack of ice formation and by fresh water run-off into the sea. – sea water needs to be made colder and saltier (heavier) by ice formation to be assist the return journey along the Atlantic deeps down to the Caribbean.

    Warming could also accelerate due to rising temperatures raising methane from the arctic tundra and the ocean deeps. Methane is a greenhouse gas 40 times more powerful than carbon dioxide.

    A high risk game, but nothing a few nuclear power plants won’t fix.

    The last line is the joke.

  • spanishroomscrumpy

    6countyprod:

    According to the Sun-Sentinal: Al Gore and the mainstream media often remind us that the science behind man-made global warming is “settled.” But this is disputed by the 31,072 scientists registered with the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and the 34,600 Canadian scientists with the Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists.

    Firstly, the 34,660 engineers and professionals with the Canadian association you mention (the APEGG) are not a body known for their contributions to pure research.

    In fact,in the main they are project engineers and petroleum industry consultants currently working as hard as they can to better the applied science behind extracting carbon-based fuels from the oil patch and tar sands of Western Canada. So they are scarcely unbiased about criticisms of carbon-based fuels.

    Secondly, even given their own position as the brain trust behind profitable oil extraction, it is still their position that climate change is a fact – nearly 100% of the membership believes that to be the case.

    Some believe this is because of human activity, some believe it is due to natural causes, some say it is down to a combination of the two.

  • Rory

    It might be useful for Turgon to reflect that the promise that Jehovah made of “No more water but the Fire next time” was a covenant exclusively between the Almighty and the Chosen People which can hardly have included uncircumcised Ulster Bible Protestants. The bible provides no guarantee that the dreary steeples will not one day disappear beneath the waves.

    Might not also Turgon’s expressed doubts on scientific theories of global warning be viewed as an utterance of disloyalty against his future king? He may yet have to join Phil Woolas in the Tower.

    http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9246312

  • Turgon

    Rory,

    I have always believed that There is none king save Christ alone. I am afraid my support for the monarchy is relatively contingent. I am something of a fan of Our Chief of Men.

  • Rory

    A republican then, Turgon and of the dissident anti-agreement camp? Well I never!

  • A high risk game, but nothing a few nuclear power plants won’t fix.

    The last line is the joke.

    A pity, it was the most sensible thing said on this thread.

  • joeCanuck

    I was sitting in the pub in Glen in Donegal a few summers ago. It was a glorious warm sunny day and it had been like that for the previous week. (My family say I always bring good weather and I’ll be over there from Sep 10 to 22nd). I remarked on the weather to one of the locals and he said, straight face, “Yes, but you know, it never really rains in Donegal; you might get an odd shower”. I guess that’s one way of looking at it.

  • Seimi

    I think the ‘shower’ he meant was us feckers from the north, joe ;0)