Children on Board

The Belfast Telegraph is reporting new regulations from the Driver and Vehicle Agency: nursery staff collecting or transporting children must now have a taxi and a PSV licence. This will force the nurseries to employ taxi firms at increased cost (which will be passed on to parents) and may well lead to the curtailment of trips which these nurseries organise for the children. The nurseries have complained that these rules do not apply to childminders and the have appealed to Arlene Foster to exempt them as well. A DoE spokeswoman said “The Minister has asked officials to proactively work with the Early Years organisation to resolve this issue.”

Just a quick rant at the end. Am I the only person who finds those “Children on board” badges really annoying? I try not to crash into fellow drivers at all and I do not think I drive more carefully because of a daft thing on the back window.

  • marty

    Am I the only person who finds those “Children on board” badges really annoying? I try not to crash into fellow drivers at all and I do not think I drive more carefully because of a daft thing on the back window.

    You are not alone. Even worse is the vomit-inducing “Little rascal on board” and other derivatives.

  • For sheer vomit-inducing car stickers, try those American ones: “My child is in the Talented and Gifted Class at Dimbo High School”, “My child is on the honor roll at … ” etc., etc. So far they haven’t crossed the Atlantic — I trust.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Agreed.

    I’d like a few other stickers for the back window, though. Such as “if you tailgate me, I’ll just slow down and I’ll keep slowing down until you back off”.

  • Steve

    I used to have a bumper sticker that said

    Lead, Follow or get the f$%& out of the way

  • Jen Erik

    I was told that they were for the emergency services – so that they would know to lookfor a child in the case of an accident.

    Don’t know if that’s true.

  • I’m nearly sure I saw one yesterday. One of the horrible pink ones that teenage girls put on their cars. It said “Yummy mummy on board”.

    It struck me that decorating one’s car in a similar manner to a 17 year old was quite childish, and frankly sad, for someone who should, hopefully, be mature enough to be called “mummy”.

  • Comrade Stalin

    It struck me that decorating one’s car in a similar manner to a 17 year old was quite childish, and frankly sad, for someone who should, hopefully, be mature enough to be called “mummy”.

    Don’t jump conclusions. The driver might have been an egyptologist.

  • joinedupthinking

    The Belfast Telegraph seems to be coming into its own in critical reportage of and holding to account the assembly and executive.

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    It’s the slutty playboy glitzy bunny type ones that really do my nut in. Nothing against advertising that you are at heart a slut, but I find it all a bit tasteless/tacky. I could understand if it was some kind of post modern anti-feminist statement, but I’d bet they were too thick to understand what that is.

  • TAFKABO

    It struck me that decorating one’s car in a similar manner to a 17 year old was quite childish, and frankly sad, for someone who should, hopefully, be mature enough to be called “mummy”.

    Of course, she could well have been a seventeen yeard old, and a mummy.

  • heck

    Can nobody comment on the basic content of the thread? Here is a case of some useless bureaucrats dreaming up some pointless regulation to make peoples lives more difficult. Imagine some single working mother in a low paid job who has to stay late and calls her childminder and asks for her child to be dropped of at a neighbor’s. Now she is faced with the added expense of having to hire a taxi. This seems like regulation gone over board.
    DoE spokeswoman said “The Minister has asked officials to proactively work with the Early Years organisation to resolve this issue.” How about “The Minister has asked officials to proactively work to see if she has too many civil servants dreaming up burdensome regulations and then fire them”

    A note at the end—the best US bumper sticker of this kind said “my mom is an honor student at red neck high”

  • NP

    I was once run off the road by a car in Dublin, that had the bumper sticker “protected by angels”

  • Turgon

    heck,
    Thank you for addressing the real aim of the blog. Child minders are, however, excluded from the legislation but not nuseries which seems really strange and does not in any way detract from the sensible concern you raise.

    On the favourite bumper sticker: a friend who was in the USA saw an old estate / station wagon full of children with “In the event of rapture car will be unmanned.”

  • Dewi

    “Don’t jump conclusions. The driver might have been an egyptologist”

    Now that was good !!!

  • heck

    turgon,

    This seems to follow on from the item on someone being prosecuted for not registering to vote. There are too many in positions of authority with too much time on their hands and too little to do.

    On another thought -maybe with the peace process bedded down their may be a realignment in politics (dream on!!!). People like me who are just agin’ the authorities, no matter who they are, might fine common cause with some good anti establishment unionists.

    Well maybe not

  • D.A.

    The Belfast Telegraph seems to be coming into its own in critical reportage of and holding to account the assembly and executive.

    Let’s hope so, as it’s bugger all use at any other kind of journalism these days. Plus their website is a shambles.

  • Comrade Stalin

    heck, I’ve a suspicion you’ll find this flows from the recent Taxis Bill which went through the assembly a short time ago. I suspect that the legislation did not properly anticipate this particular “corner case”. What we’re dealing with here, possibly, is bad legislation.

    If you want pointless requirements being brought in, you need look no further than the recent changes requiring the display of an MOT disc. I don’t think any minister or lawmaking body anywhere required that in legislation. Some civil servant somewhere just decided it would be nice to fuck things up for people a bit, and catch out all the stupid people who throw away that part of their MOT certificate.

  • cynic

    “I suspect that the legislation did not properly anticipate this particular “corner case”. ”

    I will bet that the Taxi Drivers’ lobby did anticipate this. And who runs many of the taxis in Belfast? Jobs for the Boys (on both sides).

    On yes and today the Black Taxis in Belfast proposed hiking fares by 23%. Are the Department regulating this?

  • willis

    Do the Taxi drivers have a professional lobbyist or do they wait until Arlene Foster is a fare and say
    “I had that peter Robinson in the back of my cab and he was saying to me………”

  • Comrade Stalin

    According to the BBC the black taxi fare changes have to be approved by the assembly.

    I wouldn’t say the black taxis have had a gravy train over the past few years. The taxi industry here has been liberalized, albeit with additional regulation for “hackneys”.

  • Hmm…

    I’m with Jen Erik – I read somewhere that this practice originated in Germany (’60s – ’70s?) following a crash in which a child had been thrown clear of the wreckage of his/her parent’s car and was not discovered by the emergency services until some hours later.

  • So the consensus here is that children deserve to die and they should not be regulated? One solution would be for women to stay at home, instead of engaging in sex afairs at work? Taking women out of the workforce would keep wages up (decreased supply) and, equally importantly, would keep women in their place. It would also help the soapie and Oprah industries.
    Honestly, women working so they can pay creche fees is silly.
    And before you complain, read all your remarks about bumper stickers. Here’s one: If you cared about the planet, you wouldn’t drive a f-g car.

  • Rory

    I think, Turgon, that you now need a warning sticker at the beginning of this thread that reads:

    “Caution: Dave O’Connell on board!”

  • Animus

    Children should definitely be regulated.

    One interesting point this raises however, in taxis, a child does not have to wear a seat belt, yet now nurseries will be obliged to hold a taxi license. This seems a bit of double standard.

  • Animus

    Children should definitely be regulated.

    One interesting point this raises however, in taxis, a child does not have to wear a seat belt, yet now nurseries will be obliged to hold a taxi license. This seems a bit of double standard.

    As for women staying at home instead of having sex at work, etc, sounds like a personal problem, Dave. Where do you work anyway?! Maybe you should stay at home!

    I don’t see why Child on Board should be for the emergency services – surely an infant seat would be just as useful at indicating that a child may be in the car, although I don’t always have my child with me, even though the car seat is always there. Most of those type of signs are irritating and some actually make me want to hit the car (Man U Supporter on Board).

  • jaffa

    This is the wrong way round.

    Many nurseries use taxis controlled by drivers without any childcare qualifications whatsoever.

    Particularly given the current price of cabs Ulster’s next generation deserve nothing less than an NVQ 3 Playgroup Leader at the helm of their Hackney.

    Montessori accreditation would be good too. Credentials should be displayed in lights on top of the taxi Fon-a-cab style.

    More rules please.