When elected..

With the recommendations of the first report from the review of water and sewerage services apparently waiting for the application of some collective responsibility before any minister will comment on them, the BBC’s Mark Devenport points back to the Northern Ireland Executive parties’ manifesto commitments on water charges.

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  • Glen Taisie

    Conor Murphy was claiming to be opposed to “an additional water charge” but in favour of an addition to our current water charges”

    The revolution is unfinished.

  • Frank Sinistra

    So SF are against PFI but voted for it and against water charges but for them being charged separately as an element of Rates and open to increase?

    Who writes their policies?

    Or do they just not care about sticking to them. At least all the others covered their asses in their manifestos, the shinners just went with lying.

  • Nevin


    “Local projects, which are due to commence in 2006, include the £7 million Bushmills and Portballintrae Wastewater Treatment Works and the £2.5 million Ballintoy Wastewater Treatment Works.

    Well, don’t hold your knees together. Here’s the most recent ‘promise’, “Full planning permission is to be applied for in November 2007 and work is to commence in June/July 2008 and finish at the end of 2009.”

  • John Tollerton

    I hope that plonker Nolan reads Davenport’s blog. Though he may not have the brains to understand it. His simple “every party said there would be no water charges” shows how poor the standard of the BBC now is. The manifestos show that he is totally innacurate – not that such a judgement will worry him.

  • Frank Sinistra


    All the parties did say it. Only SF put it in black and white in a manifesto and decided to just ignore it and be responsible for implementing the opposite of their promise.

    Like the PFI thread this one will have little SF supporter contribution, if only it was because they are feeling disgusted with their party, ashamed and embarassed. Nope, trying to ride the storm and ignoring policy, again.

    This new boss has a brass neck thicker than the old boss.

  • I Wonder

    Nolan’s only interest in this issue, as with all issues, is to provoke phone calls and raise hackles (and of course his own audience ratings.

    Some of us haven’t forgiven him for in his early days completely humiliating intimidating and shouting at a (junior) water official in a studio to advance his own faltering career.

  • Nevin

    One of the junior ministers has commented:

    “In March of this year we sought a mandate on the basis of our
    manifesto commitments on the issue of water charging. Central to these were
    that people should not be expected to pay twice; capital values could not
    be the only basis for assessment; there should be optional metering
    and bills should be no higher than England/Wales.

    We intend to keep our manifesto commitments and any proposals will have
    to be judged against them.

    While I welcome the contribution that the Independent panel has made to
    the debate, it is ultimately a matter for the Executive to decide the
    best way forward and be answerable to the electorate for decisions that
    are taken in this area.”

    This is perfectly understandable from Junior’s point of view. The current rates and mortages on his homes in Hillsborough and the one with a sea view at Ballyallaght must already make quite a dent on his salary.

  • All the parties did say it.

    For the record, Alliance did not say it. Alliance said that the EU Framework Directive meant there was no way we could avoid imposing water charges, but that any system had to be both socially just and encourage conservation.

    That would mean:

    a. metering
    b. a free-of-charge health and hygiene allowance for every person
    c. measures to help people on low incomes, and;
    d. high charges for heavy users

    Which would be a lot more socially progressive than simply adding a charge on to the rates which is what we did before Mark Durkan ended the link in 1999 anyway, and using a regressive tax.

  • Nevin

    Where have all the SFloggers gone? 😉