Open Election Thread (1)…

I’ve noticed there has been a lot of threads wandering off topic recently. That may be to do with the fact that there is an election on, or that many of our more serious political players are more pre-occupied with knocking doors than scoring points on Slugger… Whatever the cause we’re going to offer a few open threads to let readers talk about what we’ve not covered…

  • I’m really interested in the stuff Frank sent about spides organising riots on bebo. Got a link, Frank?

  • SCW

    WILL THE DUP GO INTO GOVERNMENT ON 26TH MARCH?

  • Overhere

    What is this news about the Ulster rugby being investigated over racial abuse at a weekend match ??

  • Crataegus

    SCW

    If no the election will have been a complete waste of time and money. If no they will suffer electoral decline and will be blamed for all that follows. It will be their crunch point and a pity I wasn’t before the election.

  • John Farrell

    What about a betting thread. Careful study of form could make us very rich.

  • Henry94

    That may be to do with the fact that there is an election on, or that many of our more serious political players are more pre-occupied with knocking doors than scoring points on Slugger…

    Laughing at the “unserious” contributors to this thread.

  • nmc
  • gerry

    Will any of the parties do anything about begging. Totally out of hand. Big issue sellers with at least four or five people accompanying them, swapping vests and going for lunch all over belfast today. issue sellers with no vest half way up divis street selling to motorists while standing on the white line. they were outside most shops on most corners, a bloody nightmare. can’t the shinners get the peelers to move them on?

  • nmc

    G.,

    Agreed. I’ve seen them getting picked up in a merc. It enrages me when I see kids being toted like a begging tool in the middle of winter.

  • Ziznivy

    “I’m really interested in the stuff Frank sent about spides organising riots on bebo. Got a link, Frank?

    Posted by Sammy Morse on Feb 20, 2007 @ 11:29 AM”

    A few incidents of hooliganism at Irish League grounds have been tentatively linked to Bebo recently. Realistically I’m not sure how organised they incidents were, or the part Bebo played in them.

  • fair_deal

    SM

    From my involvement in youth work I know the bebo site has been used for recent incidents in North Belfast.

  • merrie

    I think that the election may have a few surprise results

  • gerry & the peacemakers

    DUP election manifesto tomorrow – should make for interesting read. The Govts will be very interested to see if it mentions March 26, I would think.

  • Allister Watch

    Will be interesting to see if Jim Allister’s picture makes an appearance in the manifesto. Seems to have been totally ignored thus far on the DUP website and leaflets. I thought they were trying to portray a false united front?

  • gerry

    There hasn’t been the usual knocking on doors in this election. So far only SF has been, and that was to make sure everybody was signed up to vote, rather than the election par se.

  • Belfastwhite

    Interesting development prisoners are going to court for the right to vote in the election and McCartney ran into Big Ian on the campaign trail today in Lisburn needs to do a lot more of that to shift a few never never never voters IMHO.

  • brendan,belfast

    there’s an election? yawn.

  • ?

    Any truth in the rumour that Brian Heading is refusing to canvass for Farrell (SDLP) in Lagan Valley?

  • swampy

    If the Green Party are so ‘green’ why are they opting for posters than are not bio-degradable and use ink that is full of highly poisonous toxins that can harm dolphins and humans???

    The corriboard used by the greens is made from ‘zero’ recycled material and when ignighted can produce formaldehyde and acrolein

    Surely 100% recycled board would be more in keeping with a party that calls itself ‘Green’.

    All the other parties are using the same material.

    Recycling has obviously not reached the headquarters of any parties in n.i.

  • john, lagmore

    On the Heading/Farrell debacle, it’s my belief that the SDLP shafted Heading and he in turn through the toys out of the pram.

    Makes the SDLP’s chances of retaining the seat even more difficult. The more I look at the Lagan Valley constituency the more I see a DUP 3 Alliance 1 UUP 1 SF 1

  • John Farrell

    If Farrell loses she will be on a quango within six months.
    The substituting of Farrell for Lewsley was about giving her an incumbency advantage in March. Nothing wrong with that.
    Farrell did the decent thing in standing for the party in North Down so she will inevitably get a reward.
    Dont live in Lagan Valley but it seems some locals feel she was imposed.

  • john, lagmore

    John,

    What do you mean some locals feel she was imposed?

    In truth she appears to be a sound candidate but the largest nationalist area in Lagan Valley is Lagmore (approx 2000 homes) and the first we had ever heard of her when was her posters went up.

    Speaking with the neighbours and I expect a massive Sinn Fein return in this area.

    Given recent events the softer Nationalist votes in places like Lisburn and Dunmurry will more than likely go to Paul Butler.

    Also since the 2003 election there are nearly 1500 new nationalist voters due to new housing development in Lagmore and Glenavy, which I imagine will benefit Sinn Fein more than the SDLP.

    Butler will end up well short of a quota but he’ll be in the first six past the line, Farrell won’t.

  • John Farrell

    John…I think theres one nationalist/republican quota and too many imponderables to be sure.

    1 the SDLP lukewarm attitude. Farrels selection was more a coronation.
    2 Farrell based in Downpatrick I think
    3 the demographics in Lagmore and Glenavy.
    4 Sinn Fein momentum
    5 Butler name recognition
    6 Seamus Close personal factor

    Essentially not just one nationalist republican quota but only one alliance/ Catholic moderate quota. Farrell links to both.
    Farrell, Butler, Lunn…two of these three will be elected but I wouldnt stake my house on which two it will be.

  • Crataegus

    Swampy

    Surely 100% recycled board would be more in keeping with a party that calls itself ‘Green’.

    As a matter of interest is there such a product that is suitable? What does it weigh, ie if it fell of a lamppost and hit someone is there a health and safety issue? What does it cost? Is it available?

    Even I can see that a lot of the Green Posters are reused from previous elections. In fact some of them I think I have seen in many elections. But of course you would also probably expect them to deliver the posters one at a time on bicycle and hike across the Mournes canvassing.

  • Farrell, Butler, Lunn…two of these three will be elected but I wouldnt stake my house on which two it will be.

    Farrell hasn’t a cat’s chance in hell; Lunn only needs about 8% to be safe; Butler probably needs to poll about 10-11% which is a big ask. He will really struggle with transfers, even from Farrell. This could end up with 5 Unionist seats – less than 50/50 chance, but it’s a real possibility. There is a hell of a lot of new housing development in this constituency and most of it is not in Lagmore and Glenavy.

    Donaldson got a massive turnout here in 2005.

  • jeep55

    Had it not been for Ivan Davis running as an independent candidate last time, Seamus Close would have had over 12% of the vote on what in first preference terms was a very bad day for Alliance. So even stripping away his personal vote factor they have to be doing very badly here not to take a seat. And watch out for Donaldson’s surplus going all over the show. Donaldson’s vote used to bigger than the UUP – now it is bigger than the DUP and so a sizeable number of voters will plump for Donaldson 1 and then a second preference for the UUP or even Lunn. Consequently I do not think DUP will do any better than 3 seats and if Farrell does extremely badly the second UUP candidate may well pip Butler at the post.

  • Ulster Onionist

    Does anyone know the latest on Bob McCartney? How big is his party now? Can he hold more than one seat etc?

  • eagle eye

    Noticed a DUP vote 1 2 3 poster in North Down coming adrift from its backing board. What do you think was under it? A poster from a previous election for one of Bob’s candidates. Do you think the DUP pinched the board? Surely not?

  • Ulster Onionist

    eagle eye

    They have co-operated with Bob in previous elections, but having said that, nothing would surprise me about the DUP in North Down!

    What does surprise me however, is that you seem to have pinched my e-mail address!