The reward for a good samaritan

A Catholic woman in Londonderry, herself a victim of a sectarian arson attack eight years ago, has had her house attacked by Catholic youths. Her ‘crime’ was to assist her Protestant neighbours who had their windows broke during sectarian attacks on the Irish Street area.

  • StarHound

    Gee Whizz, I wonder if any Catholics have a good bone in their bodies…..

  • Greenflag

    These youths don’t need the attention of the PSNI -They need the cat o nine tails ten times across each of their backs . They are beyond learning in any other way ! It worked on the Isle of Man !

  • Is anyone ever caught and punished for this sort of nonsense? I rarely hear successful convictions of our army of house burners, church burners, pipe bombers and interface rioters; maybe if these lowlife scum were given a long stretch in Maghaberry we wouldn’t be thinking about the extreme methods suggested by Greenflag.

    People commit crime if they think they can get away with it.

  • Rory

    Yes, Greenflag.

    “We had capital punishment in my day. Didn’t do me any harm”, I seem to remember from Monty Python.

  • Mick Fealty

    SH,

    Clearly the woman who was attacked has… And your point was…?

  • StarHound

    I was wondering about the impact of the reporting of these incidents and how it can be used to suit an agenda.

    This incident was disgraceful and no more than base, sectarian thuggery. There are plenty of other incidents like this but are all these reported in the same way – do we need to consider how they are reported?

    This was prompted by the fact that many people in Derry feel that the handful involved in incidents like this are harming the image of the city and are giving fodder to those who don’t want to deal the fact that the nationalist majority on the council is reflecting the wishes on the majority in the city on the naming issue amongst others.

  • Greenflag

    Starhound,

    ‘that many people in Derry feel that the handful involved in incidents like this are harming the image of the city and are giving fodder to those who don’t want to deal the fact that the nationalist majority on the council is reflecting the wishes on the majority in the city on the naming issue amongst others. ‘

    Complete and utter shite rationale or to be PC a red herring . It does not matter whether the nationalist majority want to call the city Ballyslapaprodortaigamuckerry or Timbukbleedingtoo the point is that as Sammy Morse says ‘People commit crime if they think they can get away with it ‘

    We need to face the fact that there is a minority of teenagers on all sides in NI who will only respond to the threat of a big stick /cat o nine tails . Those who physically attack the aged or children or should have a mandatory whipping in stocks .

    Barbaric? -shure !(we’re dealing with barbarians )-unpleasant of course -not PC indubitably – But I’d bet it would reduce the number of such incidents a lot faster than severall decades of remedial educational and psychological enhancing self esteem programs and the like blah blah blah . More than that it would at least reassure victims such as that lady and the public at large that ‘justice’ is actually being done and seen to be done!

  • joeCanuck

    “Complete and utter shite rationale”

    Absolutely right Rory.
    One of the scary things about this is that the woman said it was men that did it, not young aspiring thugs.

  • Greenflag – you’ve sort of missed my point. You can restore judicial flogging tomorrow and it won’t make a bit of difference because these shites don’t get caught. If more of them were caught, tried and sentenced to a couple of years in Maghaberry there would be a lot less of this nonsense going on and we wouldn’t be talking about extreme measures.

    And the same goes for the vermin who target migrant workers as well. We’re not exactly talking about high capacity master criminals here so why do they so rarely get caught and punished?

  • joeCanuck

    Good point Sammy and good question.

    My take on it is that the police see an incident such as this as a low priority because it’s only against one person.
    They are missing the big picture that all these “individual” attacks have a cumulative effect and can poison community relationships and also lead to “reprisals”

  • Yokel

    Greenflag

    You are right, slap the feckers around and if their parents complain (and many will) same treatment.

  • Benn

    At least one of the questions is why do these types of attacks persist? It doesn’t take any great genius to expect them at Irish Street and up at the top of the Fountain. And I don’t buy it that PSNI hasn’t the resources, and I know that community workers are worn out, but doing what they can. It’s like the movie Groundhog Day, except it’s not funny, same shite over and over again, including the politicians saying “we have to stop this before, one day, someone gets killed.” My only guess is that it’s a combination of recreational rioting and attempts to incite things further. Either way, the wee folks get to pay the price night after night. I’m for serious fines on the parents of the little ones and jail time for the big ones, Derry really is suffering from this business. Ben(n)

  • aquifer

    Yep wire a few houses up with covert TV, offer rewards, arrest and convict a few hoodlums. The conviction rate for this abnormal sectarian fascistic crap is far to low. The police sauntering up later mouthing platitudes amounts to tolerance.

  • Greenflag

    ‘so why do they so rarely get caught and punished?’

    I’d guess for two reasons -one the PSNI is not up to the job and two their friends /parents and neighbours and those who live close to them and know them are terrified of reporting them to the police . Perhaps in the new policing climate this will change . A couple of years in Maghaberry would be a holiday for some of these lads at the taxpayers expense – so I’d start instead with 6 lashes across the arse and back for a first offense and double it for each subsequent offence . At 96 lashes you would be clearly in a failure to communicate situation at which point a 20 year mandatory jail sentence to include hard labour should do the job !

    For those who attack immigrants make it 30 years !

  • lapsedmethodist

    Doesn’t take much for the mask to slip, does it?

  • Dougal

    With an election on it’s way, I wonder which party attracts the Catholic youths who attacked this woman’s home?

    I am sure all parties disassociate themselves from this kind of behaviour but…., I wonder?