Paul Berry to run

Paul Berry is to stand in Newry and Armagh as an independent if the election takes place. In his announcement he expressed some concerns about the St Andrews Agreement.

  • Why does everybody who get deselected because of some extraneous, non-related, reason in Newry & Armagh run as an independent with ‘concerns’ about the St. Andrew’s Agreement?

  • Looking for a home with Bob?

  • Michael Shilliday

    And suddenly Paisley has opposition from the right. I’ll be amazed if he taked his seat as an ind, but I’ll be less amazed if 3 weeks before nominations close he returns to the DUP fold to stand as a DUP candidate

  • Yokel

    Interesting. I suspect his extraneous circumstances may not do him much good. No chance and given that nature of the constituency he’s not liable to affect the unionists quotas too much.

    Sammy Morse, MLA’s earn good money….

  • Henry94

    Did he say what it is about the agreement that rubs him up the wrong way?

  • fair_deal

    Henry

    He gave a vague comment about SF being fit for government but he specifically mentioned the testing period.

  • Yokel

    Henry

    I was trying to avoid saying such things but since you’ve kicked it off, let me edit my last comment to what i orignally wanted to say….

    Sammy Morse, MLA’s earn good money and Paul has a lot of sports injures that he needs massages for….

  • Animus

    Will he get the opportunity to stand as a DUP candidate? After all, he was the dumpee, not the dumper.

  • Percival

    Berry will poll about 2,500 votes. He won’t get elected, but surely if Michael Shilliday is pinning his hopes on Paisley being “attacked from the right” by the likes of Berry and Jack McKee, it is a sign of just how badly the UUP is clutching at straws.

  • URQUHART

    Animus: “After all, he was the dumpee, not the dumper.”

    How do you know what went on in that room?

  • Sammy Morse, MLA’s earn good money….

    Of course. I was just being polite.

    surely if Michael Shilliday is pinning his hopes on Paisley being “attacked from the right” by the likes of Berry and Jack McKee, it is a sign of just how badly the UUP is clutching at straws.

    It certainly shows how reactionary and hard-line they’ve become under Empey-head.

  • Michael Shilliday

    SF are being attacked from the……right isn’t the right word but you know what I mean.

    That is a statement of fact, do you also take that to be what I am pinning my hopes on?

  • Percival

    Michael

    Sorry, but it is in-keeping with your previous analysis that Big Bad Bob was going to shave off a fair whack of DUP support, and now your hailing Berry (an utterly discredited individual), as a sign of this right-wing movement starting to take shape.

    Maybe it has more to do with the fact that in order to secure a full pension you have to run for office rather than retire.

  • So Berry’s going his own way? As well as St Andrews, will he be taking a stance on the equalities legislation? Surely he appreciates the need to have a wide selection of hotels that won’t turn him away? (How did he vote on the measure in the assembly?)

    Also is 3/6 in one seat a record for incumbent assembly members being dumped by their parties by the next election?

  • I wonder…

    Percival
    Is that a guess? What would Paul B’s entitlement be, given that he was only serving (an an MLA) for a limited time. I read once that the pension entitlement for MPs was caculated on the basis of their having done the job all their working lives. Could that be the case?

  • Rory

    IS HE STILL GAY?

  • jerryp

    Rory, the answer is no, he gave it up for the new year !

  • moochin photoman

    Who busted his cherry?

  • Samwise

    Interestingly Berry voted with the DUP in the debate on the Sexual Orientation Regulations, though he didn’t speak in the debate.

    http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/transitional/plenary/061211.htm

  • Bemused

    Hopefully Berry will make a good fist of this and pull off a result. He had a rough ride in the past and one hopes that that didn’t leave a nasty taste in his mouth. Let’s hope he gives his opponents a good seeing-to in any election and emerges with a hard, stiff resolve to ….oh, forget it, I’m boring myself with this twaddle.

  • grimesy

    Aston Villa are dodgier at the back than this mucker!

  • dalek

    Now now don’t be cruel..at least as an independent he can never be off-massage! (i mean off-message… slip of the tongue……..). He is a good “sport” though and i hear he has priced out the rooms in the Canal Court now that the Ramada is off limits……

  • I wonder

    Hmmm, I can imagine the canvassing methods to be used by the Berry team during the election. Cars going by belting out George Michaels ‘lets go outside’, as his theme song.

  • grimesy

    He won’t be taking any ads out in the Sunday World!

    Although he may get a mention in “Altar Boy Monthly”…

  • Rubicon

    Many of the above comments seem homophobic to me – they certainly fall in to the ‘man’ not ‘ball’ category. Perhaps it’s unavoidable when candidates propose themselves for election.

    The snide comments about Berry’s alleged homosexuality are just that – they don’t even touch on being amusing. Just my opinion – I don’t enjoy homophobic taunts (or innuendo) and more than I do racist ones.

    Berry deserves sharp criticism for his hypocrisy and a discussion about this could be more worthwhile. A discussion of the conservative attitudes in rural NI constituencies may also be worthwhile. It’d be a welcome break from what we normally discuss – ad infinitum!

  • Comrade Stalin

    I hope that Berry will get to the root of the problems with the Agreement and deliver relief to his constituents. My best wishes to him re-entering the body (the Assembly) that he once tried to shaft (hat-tip Gonzo 😉 )

    The snide comments about Berry’s alleged homosexuality are just that – they don’t even touch on being amusing.

    Wouldn’t happen if Berry came out. Bare-faced hypocrites guile most people.

  • URQUHART

    “The snide comments about Berry’s alleged homosexuality are just that – they don’t even touch on being amusing.”

    Come on, they’re quite funny – “My best wishes to him re-entering the body (the Assembly) that he once tried to shaft” That’s funny.

  • Monty Don

    Seems to me that Berry will be coming from behind in this race, but then again that is where he is most comfortable. It will be up to the DUP to fight a rearguard action on this one. It will certainly be a contest where there back could be against the wall.

  • Way Icit

    Percival “…Berry (an utterly discredited individual)”

    I am not a DUP supporter, have never met Paul Berry and would disagree with him on many things. However, my dictionary defines “discredited” as 1. harm the good reputation of 2. cause to be disbelieved 3. refuse to believe. I am also reminded of the discerning words of Christ to the howling mob of accusers, ready to stone the woman caught in sin, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.” And then, as they disappeared into the darkness, his compassionate words to the woman “Neither do I accuse you”

    I wonder how many politicians, activists and commentators in Northern Ireland would be left pointing the finger if the same standards and discerning scrutiny were applied to them!

    I cringe at the attitude of many in the DUP who pile judgment on Paul Berry when they should act very differently if they were really true to The Book they rightly claim all of us should obey. Come on guys, show a bit of old fashioned Gospel Grace to Paul and let him run for the DUP – you may need that Grace yourself sooner than you think!

    I wish you well Paul – take courage. We, too, are sinners.

  • fair_deal

    I think we have reached saturation point on the applications to Viz to write the next Finbar Saunders cartoon so will commentors please remember the ball not man rule.

  • God loves a tryer

    Gardiner Kane tried to run as an Independent in 2003 after being discredited and it didnt work for him and it wont for Berry either I would imagine.
    If he had the courage to own up to what he was being accused of as it appears he was in fact guilty people would have more respect for him.
    As it stands now he has been a hypocrite.
    Mr Kane left the party saying he had ill health yet a few months later ran as an Inde – people dont take that crap – if they were brave enough to admit to whatever led them to have to leave the party from the beginning they might get more support as a candidate!?

  • wee ulsterman

    Parcival above said: “Maybe it has more to do with the fact that in order to secure a full pension you have to run for office rather than retire.”

    Is this really true? Is there really such a rule?

    What an incredibly stupid rule that is if so, it just encourages all the old duffers to run again and again… the age profile up on the hill is bad enough as it is.

    Who on earth was nuts enough to come up with a rule like that?

  • Comrade Stalin

    Way Icit:

    “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.” And then, as they disappeared into the darkness, his compassionate words to the woman “Neither do I accuse you”

    Satan always quotes scripture for his own purpose.

    Are you Satan ?

  • Bruce101

    Now that we have established that young Berry is not coming from the right but from behind can we more seriously not applaud him for his courage.

    I seem to recall that he dropped his court case even accepting he would contribute to the DUP’s costs when they claimed in court that they would produce evidence about Berry’s less than candid behaviour.

    Would you trust the DUP to keep such information as they may have to themselves or might it just be shared with the good voters of N&A.

  • PP

    Berry has strong personal support in and around Tandragee. The DUP have only come to prominence in a strong UUP area since 1998 and Berry has always been on the ballot since then. The DUP may find it hard enough to hold this seat. Berry and Frazer(FAIR) may end up spoling the chances of William Irwin the present DUP mayor of Armagh City and Sharon Haughey may get the 6th seat for the SDLP.

    This could even make Danny Kennedy look good and ulster unionists will be crowing about a resurgent UUP in Newry and Armagh. If any unionist association is typical of snooty tooty “decent” ulster unionism that think they have a God given right for votes its the Newry and Armagh association.

  • Rubicon

    WeeU – The pension arrangements for MLA’s are pretty much the same as for most occupations – the more years you are in the more you get out. What is different are the ‘severance’ arrangements which I believe are more generous than in most other careers (save perhaps those of CEO’s running public utilities).

    I’m not too sure if different payments are made to MLA’s who don’t stand for re-election and those who do but fail to get re-elected. A quick call to the Assembly would clear it up for you if you’re that concerned – but I really doubt that the state provides financial inducements for MLA’s to stand again. Come January 31st all 108 of them loose all support and are treated as ‘potential candidates for election’ – like everyone else who may choose to stand.

    As for pensions, the speculation is way off the mark. Berry is very far from pensionable age and will not be entitled to a pension until he’s 65.

  • merrie

    Probably for the DUP the most utterly unforgivable thing that Berry did was to hire the Finucane company lawyers.

  • Way Icit

    Stalin “Satan always quotes scripture for his own purpose. Are you Satan ?”
    Christ did not say she was not guilty – he simply showed her Grace unlike her hypocritical accusers who wanted to kill her.
    My recollection is that Paul acknowledged that he had acted unwisely. We do not need to know the gory details, if there were any – that is unless you simply want to sell papers.

    We indulge too much in “kicking a man when he is down” in this country, and this unfortunately happens far too often in the church above all places! The same energy devoted to helping people up would leave us all much better off.

  • Sammy Morse

    How did he vote on the measure in the assembly?

    Against the SORs. Hypocrite. Screw him. Er, or, maybe not.

    The only people I have any sympathy with are his wife, and the ‘masseur’ who had his business arrangements splashed all over the Sunday papers.

    . The DUP have only come to prominence in a strong UUP area since 1998 and Berry has always been on the ballot since then.

    Yes, but. There are a lot of historically weak DUP areas where they have put on significant votes since 1998 – South Down, Upper Bann, Lagan Valley, South Antrim, FST, West Tyrone, West Belfast. None of the others are anything to do with Berry and many of them not really to do with UUP dissidents either.

    The national picture will keep the DUP safe here, and Berry’s cherry will be popped.

  • Sammy Morse

    My recollection is that Paul acknowledged that he had acted unwisely. We do not need to know the gory details, if there were any

    Unless we want to expose his rank hypocrisy in voting against legal equality for his fellow homosexuals.

    For God’s sake, I’m an openly gay man and I’ve never acted ‘unwisely’ in that way. In fact, I didn’t even know it was possible to act ‘unwisely’ with a ‘masseur’ in Belfast until Paul came along.

  • Comrade Stalin

    My recollection is that Paul acknowledged that he had acted unwisely. We do not need to know the gory details, if there were any – that is unless you simply want to sell papers.

    Be careful, that comment could be actionable. There were no gory details, merely a sports massage. The full details of the sports massage in question are freely available to anyone who judiciously searches Google.

    The papers who published the articles did a public service. Note that Berry has not attempted to sue them.

    We indulge too much in “kicking a man when he is down” in this country, and this unfortunately happens far too often in the church above all places! The same energy devoted to helping people up would leave us all much better off.

    Aye right. Since when has Paul Berry extended the Christian hand of friendship and forgiveness to gays, or republicans, or muslims, or anyone in general whom he doesn’t like ? Where were you with your judgemental preaching when Berry was prancing around with the Save Ulster from Sodomy crowd ? Please, save it.

    8 or 9 years ago I met a politics student from the Netherlands who was visiting Northern Ireland to find out about politics here, and she had the misfortune to encounter one in particular in the Assembly, who not only still lived with his parents, but was one of the most singularly negative and bitter human beings she’d ever encountered, a point which was particularly surprising given his young age. Why do people seem to think Christianity gives them a license to hate people ?

  • Joe Romhar

    Bemused – brilliant, absolutely funny. Pity you cut it short.

  • Liam

    “Why do people seem to think Christianity gives them a license to hate people ? ”

    I recommend you to visit ATW blog to find the answer to that.

  • Wise Up

    Why do people seem to think Christianity gives them a license to hate people ? “

    I recommend you to visit ATW blog to find the answer to that.
    Posted by Liam on Jan 16, 2007 @ 12:06 –

    I think youll find its Muslims who are actually killing people because of their religion.. now that is hate.

  • PeaceandJustice

    Whatever Paul Berry did or didn’t do … let’s talk about real hypocrites. SF/IRA killers who think it was right do shoot dead policemen, soldiers, ordinary Protestants and any Roman Catholics who dared to disagree with them … and then claim SF/IRA are men and women of peace. That’s real hypocrisy in action. SF/IRA have a lot to ask forgiveness for given the evil they spread throughout the community. The Paul Berry story has affected him and his family most. The Sinn Fein/IRA death squads who carried out murder, torture and ethnic cleansing have affected whole communities throughout the British Isles.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    The ironly is, that if Paul Berry had got his way in the Sexual Orientations regulations, the Ramada could have prevented him from entering the hotel again.

    If Paul ever does make it back into the DUP fold, he might do well to remember this, as the party holds annual conferences at the Ramada.

  • The Clockwoman

    Could someone start a thread on the economics on this country for it is my belief that NI is heading for a fall. I am not surprised that Paul is standing again as independant after all its good money and his pension will be good compared to his old jub as a shoe salesman. What does surprise me is that there are not more people standing as independants. We even have more senior civil servants here who get paid like royality here than GB.
    As a minimim wage worker living in my family house in Lisburn i have seen my savings etc being eatin away by higher taxes etc. Even a pint here is higher than it is in Essex!!! My credit card isn’t maxed out because of holidays etc (ihave only had one in my life) its because of car insurance / tax etc. To say there is a gulf between the rich and poor is an understatement and the working classes are swallowing the (insert your own party of choice here) line as they create artificial problems so to keep their own jobs.
    Thanks for listening. That is my rant over for now.

  • The Clockwoman

    Has Paul sued the Sunday World yet for the the alledged libal? If not then that tells you all you need to know boys and girls ….

  • Comrade Stalin

    I think youll find its Muslims who are actually killing people because of their religion.. now that is hate.

    People have used religion to prosecute hate and death since time began. Pointing the finger at Muslims may be fashionable, but the biblical jihad stories to be found in the old testament predated that religion by quite some time. What’s instructive is that some people can be religious and preach tolerance and forgiveness; others read the same book and preach hate and death. Go figure.

    Clockwoman:

    Thanks for listening. That is my rant over for now.

    The problems are a lot to do with the fact that the politicians here don’t give a shit. Next on the list is the fact that the UK government doesn’t give a shit either and has allowed the place to fester. We’ll need to change one or both of those things.

  • Way Icit

    Comrade Stalin “Where were you with your judgemental preaching when Berry was prancing around with the Save Ulster from Sodomy crowd?”

    Exercising what moderating influence I could.

    PS Take care –watch you don’t trip over that big ‘plank’!

  • Bemused

    Let’s hope Paul does well at the election. He’ll be cock-a-hoop if he wins. He’ll have to penetrate a wider constituency than normal if he wants to get elected. No doubt his critics will try to blow-off his chances of success and I suppose for Paul the election may well prove to be a case of ‘suck it and see’. Paul may well want to see how his opponents react to a good, hard, stiff delivery of his manifesto. I personally think he has more than enough spunk to get him through any hostile encounters with the electorate. People may say that he got a bum deal at the last election,etc.etc.etc.etc.etc………….

  • The Clockwoman

    If he doesn’t sue the paper i think People will see Paul for what he is.
    So Comrade if the politicians in GB or here don’t give a damn what’s the alternative. Instead of being passive on politics and commenting on these people Slugger should become a cyber pressure group and become active. We should be the cyber catalyst for change. Too many armchair generals!:(

  • fair_deal

    Comrade

    “when Berry was prancing around with the Save Ulster from Sodomy crowd?”

    The SUFS campaign appear to have began in 1977 and ended in failure in 1982.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Save_Ulster_from_Sodomy
    Paul Berry was born in 1976. Somehow I doubt of he was prancing around with any political campaign between the ages of 1 to 6.

  • Way Icit

    If we had to choose, which should we look for:-

    1. A good politician, or

    2. A perfect politician?

  • The Clockwoman

    The irony is a politician gets elected if he is popular and to be popular you have to be prepared to compromise on the truth: sad, but true. So it’s not a choice between a good or perfect politician. It’s a case of the lesser of two evils. Only in a dictatorship can the politician (sic) afford to be his true self.

  • DK

    Clockwoman: “Could someone start a thread on the economics on this country for it is my belief that NI is heading for a fall.”

    Oh it’s not so bad. Growth is presently higher than both the Republic and the UK:
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/?jp=CWSNMHOJOJSN&rss=rss1

    And our house prices have gone over the UK average for the first time.

  • Pacman

    So from all this are we to understand he’s ploughing his own furrow?

    I’ll get my coat…………

  • The Clockwoman

    You must be saying that with your toungue firmly in cheek (no pun intended) when you suggest house prices are going through roof. Where do people get the money from … minimum wage … newbies on house ladder etc. And where is this growth coming from: not primary or secondary industry but from public sector and catering for the well to dos.

  • Phir Milenge

    Running as an Indie’, he’s not likely to get beyond the first count with No1s making any talk of transfers pretty much pointless. He will be aware of this and it just makes me wonder, why would he bother running, (giving that to do so is expensive)?

  • Kloot

    And our house prices have gone over the UK average for the first time.

    Is that not down to the fact that people from the ROI are investing heavily in property in NI. Thats not a good thing, as prices will rise ahead of the purchase capabilities of those that live there

  • Comrade Stalin,

    Last time I checked it wasn’t Methodists or Roman Catholics or – gasp – even Free Presbyterians who reckoned paradise could be obtained by crashing commercial aircraft into office blocks, or self detonating on the London transport system, or calling Jews “pigs”. That’s the religion of pieces for you. Anyone who watched last evenings Channel 4 “Dispatches” programme “Undercover Mosque” will not suffer from the delusions which affect the Comrade.

    On topic, several of the comments on Paul Berry on this thread are pathetic Finbarr Saunders at his worst, the naked (ooh er) intolerance behind them is revealing of the good little lefties mindset.

    Berry may be a hypocrite but is he any worse than some of those revered on this site, including latter-day tree-huggers whose terrorist track-record is all but erased in the name of peace? I’m not sure what will happen in this constituency to the pro-Union vote, but certainly
    PP’s point is correct regarding the UUP association there.

  • DK

    “Is that not down to the fact that people from the ROI are investing heavily in property in NI. Thats not a good thing, as prices will rise ahead of the purchase capabilities of those that live there.”

    To a very small extent. More likely to be people from GB as there are more of them.

    Most likely reason is that we are doing it to ourselves, although it is nice to blame outsiders.

  • Cormac

    David Vance:

    I aggree with your sentiments regarding the puerile nature of comments concerning Paul Berry on this thread – perhaps better (as some posters have already suggested) to highlight his hypocrisy in opposing the HR legislation than to engage in a schoolyard-style slagging match.

    However, regarding Muslims – er, aren’t you tarring them all with the same brush?? I know some Muslims, NONE of whom support the attacks of 9/11. Nor do they consider “paradise could be obtained by crashing commercial aircraft into office blocks, or self detonating on the London transport system, or calling Jews ‘pigs'”.

    In fact a Muslim friend from Algeria is always supportive of Jews, saying his father had Jewish friends growing up.

  • Kloot

    To a very small extent. More likely to be people from GB as there are more of them.
    Most likely reason is that we are doing it to ourselves, although it is nice to blame outsiders.

    Check out this from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors and the Ulster Bank. In fairness its not just NI that people from the ROI are investing in. Eastern European countries are also targets.

    [a href=�http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6265287.stm>No slowdown for NI house prices

  • Actually, I’ve had second thoughts. Perhaps Paul might manage to take the field from the rear on transfers.

    PS – DK, yes house prices in NI have exceeded the UK average recently. NI incomes aren’t even close. That’s the problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_sea_bubble

  • Cormac,

    I don’t want to go off-topic on this, suffice to say I fully understand your point and the issue of the problems facing moderate muslism is discussed in some depth on A Tangled Web and elsewhere. Perhaps, as a poster over there suggests, we are seeing an Islamic renaissance in reverse – in which its most fervent advocates return to the literal viciousness of the Koran? It’s a big topic – and nothing to do with Paul Berry.

  • TAFKABO

    Anyone who wonders why someone with homosexual tendencies feels compelled to live a life of secrecy, needs only read this thread to understand why.

    Satire is one thing, there comes a point when it stops being satirical and becomes something akin to a public stoning.
    I don’t accept the excuse that people are attacking hypocrisy, 99% of the so caled jokes are filthy little sideswipes about homosexual activity, not double standards.

  • 99% of the so caled jokes are filthy little sideswipes about homosexual activity, not double standards.

    Come on, TAFKABO, I engage in homosexual activity on a regular basis and have never engaged in (shudder) heterosexual activity. I’m as gay as it gets.

    Berry is a hypocrite and is asking for it. Openly gay politicians don’t face the same venom except from some of Mr. Berry’s former friends.

    And besides, he gets paid 45 grand for sitting on his bum all day. If we wants the benefits of public office, he has to take the flack that’s part of public life.

    Toodle pip.

  • grimesy

    Berry’s hyprocisy annoys me – hence my juvenile comments from last night. If his private perferences were at odds with DUP/FP policy, why didn’t he join the UUP, UKUP, etc?

    “Aesop standing on stilts” would tell less tall tales than Paul at the moment. If he had simply told the truth from the beginning, the comments like mine would be sympathetic – not puerile.

    Just look at Bertie’s academy-award winning performance on RTé’s “Six-One News” last November…a couple of tears & he won back public opinion.

    Maybe Paul should take notice?

  • Cormac

    DV:

    “It’s a big topic – and nothing to do with Paul Berry.”

    Fair enough 🙂

  • Comrade Stalin

    Clockwoman:

    So Comrade if the politicians in GB or here don’t give a damn what’s the alternative.

    People realizing that they need to elect politicians who actually do stuff, instead of voting for the same old eejits and then wondering why they’re crap.

    Instead of being passive on politics and commenting on these people Slugger should become a cyber pressure group and become active. We should be the cyber catalyst for change. Too many armchair generals!:(

    That’s the shortest comment on Slugger that manages to be both patronizing, cliched and ironic all at the same time.

    Ah, there’s nothing like a bit of Vance’s White Man’s Burden to liven the place up. It’s a pity Vance doesn’t do debate and is afraid to defend the gaping holes in his violent and unsophisticated philosophy. Still, I may as well bite :

    Last time I checked it wasn’t Methodists or Roman Catholics or – gasp – even Free Presbyterians who reckoned paradise could be obtained by crashing commercial aircraft into office blocks, or self detonating on the London transport system, or calling Jews “pigs”. That’s the religion of pieces for you.

    David, I guess you think it’s more humane to drop bombs on them from a great height. That way you can’t hear their screams ? Or indeed blowing up hotels where British civil servants are working ?

    Anyone who watched last evenings Channel 4 “Dispatches” programme “Undercover Mosque” will not suffer from the delusions which affect the Comrade.

    Yeah. I’ve seen LVF press conferences where they sat there with a copy of the bible in full view in front of them. Were the LVF speaking for all Christians ? Let’s face it David, you just hate the Muslim religion. It’s a shame you wouldn’t just say it straight. Very Christian of you.

    …literal viciousness of the Koran?

    Same deal that’s in the bible, and indeed the texts of most religions. You just haven’t bothered to read them properly. Nonetheless, on the subject of literal viciousness, it’s not like your a pacifist yourself is it ? Pick any given armed conflict in the world since WW2 and you’ll be there cheering on the bombings and armed assaults.

    Cormac :

    However, regarding Muslims – er, aren’t you tarring them all with the same brush??

    Yes, he is. David’s a fun-size version of Rush Limbaugh, except with better pullovers and without the narcotics habit.

  • Dear Comrade,

    “It’s a pity Vance doesn’t do debate…” – must tell the many daily visitors with whom I freely debate on ATW the news. Perceptive as ever.

    So, no evidence of Christians hijacking planes, detonating in Disco’s, slaughtering on the Tube? Still, nice try.

    So, you’ve seen the ” LVF press conferences where they sat there with a copy of the bible in full view in front of them. Were the LVF speaking for all Christians ?”

    I guess as many as those Priests who administered last rites to those lined up for slaughter by the IRA. (As covered on ATW today)

    Interesting you allege I hate all Muslims, given that ATW links to a prominent site ran by Muslims.

    The fact is that hypocrisy is not restricted to young Master Berry but to more than a few of those who post on this site – posting ludicrous comments behind sickening pretend-names. After all, calling yourself after a tyrant who directed the murder of millions is hardly the mark of a balanced individual!

    As for the Rush analogy, what can I say? He’s a great guy – but as this thread demonstrates, God forbid anyone right of commie-land be imperfect.

    Now than Comrade, that’s enough effort on you I’m off to debate with those capable of reasoned response – a group you may aspire to join -but not quite yet.

  • DK

    Clockwoman: “And where is this growth coming from: not primary or secondary industry but from public sector and catering for the well to dos”

    If you bothered to read the article rather than pandering to your prejudices…. Don’t know why I bother with all the knockers out there.

    “Employment in the private sector in the North grew by its fastest rate in more than four years in December, it was revealed today.

    At the same time business activity in the province showed its fastest rise for more than two and a half years according to a report from the Ulster Bank.

    The bank’s Purchasing Managers’ Index signalled a further marked improvement in the private sector economy.”

  • DOH

    “I think youll find its Muslims who are actually killing people because of their religion.. now that is hate”

    er, yeah, because nobody ever killed someone in Northern Ireland because of their religion….

    What an utterly stupid comment.