It is a tale, told by an idiot…

In the chaos of yesterday’s tumultuous events, a few important snippets came loose. Ian Paisley made a nonsense of the Speaker’s pre-ordained role, by not using a particular form of words that the NIO had assured her would be there. It seems she was legally compelled by the Secretary of State to accept anything Dr Paisley said. We may put in an FOI request to try to clarify the matter. But it also seems that Sinn Fein is determined not to face a damaging election having signed up to policing. Indeed, Slugger understands that Peter Hain and NIO officials have been issuing briefings to the effect that the Ard Fheis may not take place until after the election. As the man says:

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


  • Truth and Justice

    Well it will be interesting to hear Alex Kanes UUP spin on this one, i wonder did he hear the SDLP leaders comments in the Assembly yesterday the DUP having been given a veto – veto – veto!!!

  • incredulous

    Is this Truth and Justice fellow for real, or is it someone parodying the average DUP voter?

  • slug

    T&J has turned out to be pretty well informed and I don’t think hes a parody at all; I see him as someone who is doing a reasonable job of defending this deal.

    Remember that Alex Kane being UUP will have an interest in disparaging the deal. My own view as a nonpartisan of the deal is that Kane is wrong to say its “immesurably worse” than the GFA; in fact I am pretty sure its significantly better for unionists.

  • Truth and Justice

    Thanks for kind comments Slug – Just giving my views which have not been to far from the mark so far!

  • bertie

    As it doesn’t have a release of prisoners, it is significantly better than the BA for anyone who doesn’t like muderers being loose on our streets and able to carry out yesterday’s, thankfully bloodfree attack.

  • But Bertie, the SAA doesn’t undo the GFA, so therefore the prisoners will remain free. Therefore the DUP has simply accepted the GFA with slight adjustments (albeit eight years late). If they had’ve negotiated a new agreement whereby ex-prisoners were reincarcerated, then you may have had a point- but they didn’t, so you don’t.

    For all intents and purposes, the DUP has agreed to what the UUP signed-up for in 1998. In the meantime, we have had to suffer the problems of Direct Misrule- ultimately what did the delay gain? Nothing.

  • Truth and Justice

    El Matador i can only presume yuou are a member of the UUP the ST Andrews Agreement has got some good stuff and does change the Belfast Agreement if this were not the case there would have been no need for Leglislation to go through the House of Commons!

    Changes are sweeping

    North South Bodies (Unionist veto)
    Ministers (Unionist veto)
    50/50 Recruitment to go when quota gets to 30%
    Sinn Fein have to sign up to Policing to get ministers seats in executive!
    A form of Acedemic selection
    Grammar schools saved
    RPA to be desided by Assembly there will not be seven super Councils no greening of the west
    Rates to be capped
    Water charges will be up to the Assembly
    No Unionist has to vote in a Sinn Fein Deputy first minister!
    Financial package for NI
    Money for deprived working class Unionist areas
    Review on parading
    Ulster Scots to have equality with the irish Language
    And all the scare stories from the UUP on the Irish Language Act were false with no mention of it in the St Andrews Leglislation and the Sceretary of state stating the Assembly gets to have the say with a (Unionist veto)!

    There will be more for Unionism in the weeks to come just watch and see!

  • jerryp

    In one of his books, Sam McAughtry says that the standard of politics in N’orn I’rn is so bad that, if he picked twelve passengers at random from the Enterprise , there was a fair chance that they would form a better government than what would be on offer at Stormont ! ( apologies to rail passengers ! ).

  • incredulous

    My apologies Truth and Justice, I just thought you were partisan to the degree of caricature.

    In fact, I still think that, but you’re obviously well-informed. πŸ™‚

  • bertie

    El mat

    Didn’t hear that you’d switched to the UUP/UVF πŸ˜‰

    The BA took us from a place where Stone etc was in prison to one where they were let out. At least this agreement doesn’t include an amnesty for the OTRs.

    Are you trying to talk me into opposing the SAA? πŸ˜‰

  • Ha, you really gota feel sorry for T&J

    Btw t&j, you practically wrote that exact same list a couple weeks ago which I went through point by point and you got touchy and completely refused to comment. Only thing is, todays list has some more even stupid ideas!

    Just one thing, DUP having a veto = SF having a veto. So I am unsure of Slug’s claims that you are well informed… lol!

  • “can only presume yuou are a member of the UUP

    Which is a lead in to ask if there still is a UUP and if the DUP will eat their lunch in an election?

    Conversely, will the SDLP attain parity with the Shinners in the next election?

    Just asking, I’ll be over in June and I want to know whether type II or IIIA kevlar is appropriate.

  • Porlock

    T and J,

    All your supposed gains are dependent upon a deal being done—and I’m not holding my breath on that one. I note your optimism about the RPA, but since SF support 7 councils and SF can veto the DUP, (for SF, too, have veto, veto, veto) any stalemate internally will result in the RPA going ahead as is.

    I agree that you are well informed, but I also suspect that you have a cosy berth inside DUP HQ and that you are deliberately chusing to liter yur posts with atrokious spelling!

    It’s the sort of stuff beloved of all those writers to local papers, who are also all terribly well informed, yet pretend that they are just “ordinary unionists” of one sort or another.

    Good luck to you, anyway. I’m sure your masters will be terribly impressed by your noble efforts.


  • Smithsonian

    You lost all credibility a few days ago when you claimed to be UUP but just happier with the SFA than the BA.

    The SFA is not an agreement. It is two governments proposals. So how can the DUP have negoitated a better deal? Have they signed up to something without dealing us?

  • I wonder…

    …water charges up to Assembly? πŸ˜‰ Don’t think so…

  • Tkmaxx

    DUP alleged gains include:
    More North/South bodies not less
    50/50 going when it was planned to go – see Dennis Bradley speech to SDLP Conference
    Grammar schools to be saved when they were not threatened
    Academic selection to be replaced by undefined process
    DUP veto to be matched by SF veto
    SF to support police before taking office – yet to be seen
    Ulster Scots to be matched in status to Irish language – given DUP request to invoke Sewell Convention – means both are meaningless
    So called Financial package has been dismissed by every party and rubbished by the business community
    Now what are the gains again?

  • dalek

    tkmaxx…..youve been reading the detail ffs

  • elvis parker

    El Mat
    ‘the prisoners will remain free’

    Fact is with the exception of the Brighton bomber, Stone and a few others most of the prisoners would have been out be now anyhow under the normal course of events.

    One could argue that having all these guys out under license is actually better than just having them all free?