Some questions, some answers.. and some hyprocrisy

The Downing Street website has the transcript of the press conference yesterday following the joint statement from Taoiseach Bertie Ahern and Prime Minister Tony Blair. And, among the muted sounds of hope over history, there were a few answers that, in particular, deserve to be highlighted.From the transcript:


Taoiseach, first of all the question of policing seems to be a major issue for the DUP, in the sense that they expect anyone going into Cabinet with them, or Executive with them, to fully support law and order and policing. And secondly the DUP see alleged criminality, at local level within the nationalist community, as a major issue for them. First of all I want to ask, can policing be resolved from a republican perspective, do you believe collectively? And secondly, the question of criminality, will you spell out what you see as the status of alleged criminality or de facto criminality at the hands of the IRA in the Republic of Ireland at this point in time?


Policing is a major issue and we’ve always said it’s a major issue in the process, because all the way from the Patten reforms and what the Oversight Commissioner said, on the implementation of those we want to see policing resolved. Now parties have different views, but they’ve set out their views and in the negotiations we have to try and come to an agreement on that. But policing is a big major issue. In any society proper policing structures and acceptance of those policing structures are very important and that’s why we’ve had Patten. On criminality I’m glad to report there is no link whatsoever that we have traced in a long, long, long way back of IRA involvement in criminality of any kind in the Republic of Ireland.[added emphasis]

Which may come as a shock to the various agencies involved in the raids on Thomas Murphy’s farm.. and the CAB follow-up through the courts... of course, he may not be a good republican after all..

It may also point to the type of charges that may emerge from the, reportedly completed, investigation into money-laundering, Operation Phoenix..

Tony Blair was more reticent, pointing to the forthcoming IMC report in October, but adding a different reference that should be noted:


How do you see this policing issue resolved, given the Sinn Fein stance at the moment?

Prime Minister:

I think there are two things that I would say. The first is that in respect of whether parties are complying with the Agreement, the Independent Monitoring Commission report is the key. That is the determinant, that is the objective body that says whether the obligations that people have entered into are being complied with or not. And in respect of policing, the most important thing is that if we are going to create a society in which the rule of law is paramount, and where we pursue arguments through democracy. It’s important of course that anybody who is guilty of criminal offences is prosecuted in a fair way, under the law, and there should be no distinction between any people or any groups in respect of that. And that is the way to resolve it in my view.[added emphasis]

It should be noted because, as I’ve pointed out.. there is a way to approach for-profit terrorists of any kind – “You need to treat them as criminals”.. unfortunately, the lack of distinction between any people or any groups doesn’t seem to have filtered through here.

Is the apparent level of hypocrisy involved really the best we can hope for?

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  • na


    Self linking on this scale is hilarious.

    Linking to your own ‘added emphasis’ after ‘added emphasis’ on your own entry after own entry.

    Can’t you find an independent link anywhere?

    (hint: linking to your own spin/bias is not substantiation)

  • na

    Maybe someone more deligent with me could count the amount of self linked blogs by Pete through this entry, I gave up approaching twenty.

    Link after link leads to a PeteB blog with more PeteB blogs linking to more PeteB blogs.

    It’s like a never ending Russian doll of PeteBism.



    What’s the problem?

    Blogger links to blog.

    Seems like what is supposed to happen, no?

  • Pete Baker

    Before this gets too far off-topic.

    Having already covered connected issues to the points I’m raising, with links to articles in the wider media, I like to utilise the Slugger archive – including, when possible, posts by other bloggers here.

    It, imho, provides access, should the reader wish to follow the links, to the wider context of the points being made.

    Sorry that you appear to have a problem with that, na, but it’s the way I blog.. and have done for some time.

    Now.. back to the topic.

  • heck

    Prime minister

    “It’s important of course that anybody who is guilty of criminal offences is prosecuted in a fair way, under the law, and there should be no distinction between any people or any groups in respect of that.”

    What a load of BS from Europe’s number one war criminal!!!

    However leaving his actions aside, “show me the money” honest Tony. When will we see prosecutions of those involves in collusion? When will we see Gordon Kerr, or Scap(for you guys who talk about republican collusion) before a court?

    Anyone who listens to anything honest Tony says needs their head examined. It might be playing the man but even his opponent at the last election called him a liar. He is the definition of chutzpa.

  • lib2016


    I agree with everything you say about Blair but for unionists he is the elected leader of their country. They don’t believe in democracy of course but on a practical level how much longer can they continue defying the British government?

  • páid

    Well, to go back off topic, and (slightly) play the man, I notice that self-referential Pete likes to parse the “process” statements to no mean effect. I get the distinct feeling that the NIO and the 2 govts. are shifting towards JS, and I get the distinct feeling, through his keen posts, that PB is on to them.

    NB. Alcohol taken. Perhaps a posters’ button to indicate how many pints should be incorporated into the site; readers could then allocate attention accordingly

  • heck


    I agree, unionist see him as head of the government they want to give allegiance to, yet they don’t want people in government who support violence!!!!! Scratch that–they don’t want fenians in government who might have, —possibly at one time, maybe, supported violence.

    I am just sick of the hypocrisy of British politicians, churchmen and media lushes, who come to Ireland to lecture the micks on violence and criminality. Mathews quote comes to mind “Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye?”

    And shame on any Irish politician who puts up with this crap from Blair.